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#161 Mr. Breathmask

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Posted 07 January 2004 - 04:02 PM

Yes, that single shot of Merry kneeling before Théoden was in the first preview, but I saw the entire scene, with dialogue and everything. I've tried looking for it, but I can't find it. :P

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Posted 07 January 2004 - 07:13 PM

I dunno. I'm not totally uninterested, but right now, I'd rather try that Quidditch game.

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I bet it has at least better CGI cutscenes that the actual movie....
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Posted 08 January 2004 - 12:43 AM

Im sure the videogame has finished footage, or so it should...

I have the game, all of it is finished footage
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Posted 08 January 2004 - 05:30 PM

Any unreleased material?

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 09:15 PM

i have never seen that merry/theoden footage.

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 09:17 PM

There probably are some unreleased footage in the game but it'd only be like 15 seconds long at the most, most of the footage is from the Two Towers
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Posted 08 January 2004 - 09:18 PM

that is one thing i didn't like about the TTT for GC, it was half of Fellowship stuff.

So goes the same here. .

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Posted 09 January 2004 - 07:02 PM

yeah but since Fellowship game was not created ,adding Fellowship levels in TTT was a good point i think...

Now, NOT making it for PC.....

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Posted 10 January 2004 - 03:50 AM

hahahaha
I've got ROTK for Xbox and I look forward to LOTR Trilogies

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Posted 10 January 2004 - 04:54 AM

*yawn*

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Posted 12 January 2004 - 12:31 AM

Clearly this is one the year's best movie. Visually the film is breathtaking, the acting superb and for a 3+ hour film it moves very quickly.

This film tugs at your emotions and delivers a satisfying end to the LOTR.

Peter Jackson exceeded my expectations for all 3 films and for that I thank him.

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Posted 12 January 2004 - 12:33 AM

Thank god he's doing The Hobbit(most likely)
we still have some more LOTR to look forward to
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Posted 12 January 2004 - 01:41 PM

(Book)theHobbit != (Book)theLordOfTheRings;

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Posted 12 January 2004 - 09:14 PM

what?

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Posted 13 January 2004 - 12:15 AM

Yeah what ya mean there? :wave:

Justin -Who thinks the editing on ROTK is a small detraction from the film.

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Posted 13 January 2004 - 01:04 AM

I am in agreement there Justin.

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Posted 13 January 2004 - 08:51 AM

Yes, RotK has the worst editing of the three. We did not need flashbacks. We need Denethor's Palantír, dammit! :(

- Marc, who still thinks that's the weakest point of the 3rd film.

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Posted 13 January 2004 - 11:13 AM

When Elrond took off his hood where Aragorn and the army where camping, he should have said:

"Mr. Aragorn, surprised to see me?"


From theonering.net:

To end the evening, Peter told one last story about a gag that was played on Viggo Mortenson during filming at Dunharrow. Peter gave Hugo Weaving a pair of Matrix-style glasses, and as Viggo entered the king?s tent to meet with Elrond, Hugo Weaving stood up, removed his cloak, revealed his glasses, and said: ?Your Dunedain disguise cannot fool me, Mr. Anderson.? Peter called this the ?ultimate geek moment.?


LOL

Read the full article here.

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Posted 13 January 2004 - 06:22 PM

Will the Dunedain appear in the Extended version?

Luke, who realised they were not in the movie when Aragorn (in the end) said to the remaining soldiers: Gondor Men, Rohirrim, My Brothers!...etc or something.

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Posted 13 January 2004 - 07:31 PM

Will the Dunedain appear in the Extended version?


I doubt it, since we see no sign of then anywere in the mountain of the Dead, not the battle of Gondor.

Luke, who realised they were not in the movie when Aragorn (in the end) said to the remaining soldiers: Gondor Men, Rohirrim, My Brothers!...etc or something.


Yes, but it's not really important I think.

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Posted 14 January 2004 - 08:36 AM

I wonder if we'll get a longer ending. Most people will probably cringe at the thougth of an EVEN LONGER ending, but I think PJ said in the FotR commentary that the third film was going to end with a V.O. of Galadriel, detailing what happened to the Company after the events of the film, just like there is an appendix detailing that. It would be nice to see, but I think it'd make the ending too long. Never too much LotR, but still...

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Posted 14 January 2004 - 10:00 PM

End in style, he must.

Don't know if it has been said already, but I remember some great line from the books, spoiler btw,

where Sam takes the Ring from Frodo when he thinks he's dead, and officially takes over the burden. I think they omitted it to have both Frodo and the public worry about the Ring, but I don't think this 'fooled' the public... I looked forward to this line (can't remember it exactly, at least not in English, but you get the point...).

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Posted 14 January 2004 - 10:07 PM

I love the way that people on line were all like "I really need Return of the King Spoilers! I wanna know what happens!"

its called a book... writen 50 years ago...

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Posted 14 January 2004 - 11:23 PM

i hear ya . . . .

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Posted 15 January 2004 - 12:31 PM

Yes, but it's not really important I think.


You mean they appearing or the actual sentence? Of course calling the soldiers brothers does not imply there are dunedain, but it make me thought about it.

If it is the scenes, well give me Dunedain when they have to appear than elven in Helm's Deep....
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Posted 27 January 2004 - 01:41 AM

I liked Gollum. He looked very real. Except for that scene at the end in the lava. He should have stopped caring for the ring when he was being burned to death.



Did they change that already?In my first viewing a month ago he sort of kept smiling staring at the ring untill he disappeared into the lava.This time around he was squirming in pain as he was engulfed by the lava.

maybe I'm just imagining stuff but it just did not seem that way when I first saw it.

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Posted 27 January 2004 - 05:25 AM

Very strange KM, but that's the way I remembered my first viewing also....

Hmmm.....

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Posted 29 January 2004 - 07:55 AM

I had about four hours to kill this morning so I went to see a matinee of ROTK. (Hey, we all gotta pitch-in for the $1 Billion, right?)

Anyway, at the end of the scene where Elrond gives Aragorn the sword, they exchange two lines in elvish (paraphrased):

Elrond: I give hope to the world of men.
Aragorn: I keep none for myself.

Now the reason why I paraphrased them is because there weren't any subtitles. Now, I see three possibilities:

1) I have developed a sub-conscious understanding of elvish. (Unlikely, as I've never read Tolkien.)
2) I saw a print with subtitles.
3) The lines are in a trailer or some featurette in English, and I remembered them from there.

Anyone know anything about this?

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Posted 29 January 2004 - 07:59 AM

I don't know about this. They were subtitled over here, but we get prints without the original English subtitles, replaced by Dutch subtitles. Interestingly, we sometimes get more subtitles than the original releases. For instance:

In FotR, the Ring's chanting at the Council is subtitled. Not literal, but with a whole text about "they shall all falll into darkness, etc., etc."
In TTT, Legolas line at the smoking Orc carcasses is subtitled (May they find peace in death).
In TTT, Sam talking to Frodo at Osgiliath is subtitled, even though you can't actually hear him speak.

However, I think you must have seen an earlier print with subtitles. I can't imagine they would leave that untranslated. Odd though, that you saw one without subtitles.

- Marc, who has no real answer. :?

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Posted 29 January 2004 - 01:22 PM

In the ROTK prints I've seen, that part is definitely subtitled.

Marian - who will go see it a fourth time soon.

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Posted 29 January 2004 - 03:39 PM

Perhaps the film was misframed and they were being cut off. Was this shown on a curved screen?

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Posted 29 January 2004 - 04:26 PM

I thought about it being cut-off at the bottom, but I didn't notice anything below the screen through the whole movie. Also, a subtitle of Elrond's line at the end (The sea calls us home) showed up fine.

I'm beginning to wish I hadn't gone because, I was just about over my LOTR fever. Now I have an uncontrollable urge to see it again.

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Posted 29 January 2004 - 05:26 PM

Everytime I've seen ROTK there have been subtitles.

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Posted 29 January 2004 - 07:09 PM

Well, I'm going again today and/or tomorrow, so I'll see if anything has changed.

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Posted 29 January 2004 - 10:24 PM

Has anyone else see nthe movie 6 or more times? since I was a bit surprised that I, who is not a huge Tolkein fan and wasn't a big fan of the first two movies, had seen the movie more than any person I'm in contact with! (note- I am not a member with TheOneRing.net)

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Posted 29 January 2004 - 10:53 PM

I haven't seen it 6 times, no.

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Posted 30 January 2004 - 02:27 AM

Well,how about Gollum's death,is there 2 versions of this?

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Posted 30 January 2004 - 02:58 AM

Everytime I've seen ROTK there have been subtitles.

Really? I've never seen a movie in subtitles at a theater

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Posted 30 January 2004 - 07:00 AM

The Elvish lines are subtitled, not the entire film. Duh.

- Marc, :roll:

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Posted 30 January 2004 - 08:13 PM

yeah, that's what i meant.





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