It's a wonderful deconstruction and meditation on Chiyo's Theme. You should really give it a chance.@WilliamsStarShip2282
Right! It's "A Dream Discarded" from the "Geisha".
This evening, I will give it a last chance on youtube.
Thanks for the help!
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Right! It's "A Dream Discarded" from the "Geisha".
This evening, I will give it a last chance on youtube.
Thanks for the help!
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im sure you already know about it, but JW and yo yo ma did this great mini album. i think you can only get it on itunes but its john playing piano and yo of course on cello. they do "Sayuris Theme" and "Going to School" along with a fresh recording of " A Dream Discarded"
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The main theme from "Victory Celebration" is derived from Luke and Leia's theme. The first five notes are the same.
The Flying Theme from E.T. is derived from the Star Wars Main Theme. The first five notes are the same
im not sure what you mean by et and starwars......only the first two notes are the same and not really, just move by the same interval. et for example, starts on C goes up a fifth to G and then to F,E,D,E,C and then down a fourth to G. Star Wars ( if it starts on see) goes up by a fifth to G and then goes up a fourth to C. just a technicality i guess....
On the C scale, the first five notes of both themes are "C, G, F, E, D". Different rhythms, but same intervals.
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The main theme from "Victory Celebration" is derived from Luke and Leia's theme. The first five notes are the same.
The Flying Theme from E.T. is derived from the Star Wars Main Theme. The first five notes are the same
im not sure what you mean by et and starwars......only the first two notes are the same and not really, just move by the same interval. et for example, starts on C goes up a fifth to G and then to F,E,D,E,C and then down a fourth to G. Star Wars ( if it starts on see) goes up by a fifth to G and then goes up a fourth to C. just a technicality i guess....
On the C scale, the first five notes of both themes are "C, G, F, E, D". Different rhythms, but same intervals.
sorry i was incorrect before, writing late at night doesnt always work well, especially when i wrote "see" instead of "C" -_-........ anyways with the exception of the first note in the StarWars theme, the first four notes are the same. I wouldnt say Et was "derived" from StarWars in any way, its just his style to use alot of fifth and octaves
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Browsing through IMDB forums, I've found these quotes of some of the cast members about DDL's performance and the script:
David Oyelowo (who plays a black calvaryman)
How was working on Steven Spielberg’s ‘Lincoln’?
David Oyelowo: That was just incredible. Daniel Day Lewis is my favorite actor of all-time. To get to share words, to share a scene, and for the person who calls “Cut” behind the monitor to be Spielberg was one of those where I can die happy. These two guys were at the absolute top of their game. I play a union cavalryman and we’re not allowed to talk too much about it because Steven likes to keep things under wrap. It’s a very powerful role and there’s a great interaction between myself and President Lincoln and it sets up the movie really.
Kathleen Kennedy...
Day-Lewis 'sublime' as Lincoln
(UKPA) – 9 hours ago
Daniel Day-Lewis is "absolutely sublime" as Abraham Lincoln, producer Kathleen Kennedy has revealed.
The actor portrays the former US President in Steven Spielberg's upcoming biographical drama, Lincoln, alongside Sally Field as his screen wife Mary Todd.
"He is beyond description. He is just absolutely sublime. You will not be disappointed," Kathleen promised.
The producer, Spielberg's long-time collaborator, added that they have finished filming it, and are in the process of post-production.
However, the War Horse filmmaker refused to let too much slip about the film, adding: "I can't say anything about Lincoln yet because I am still in the process with the movie. I never speak about them until the time is right."
Goodwin--author of Team of Rivals-- (yesterday)
"Team of Rivals" is being made into a movie by Steven Spielberg, and Goodwin said she got to sit in on the set in Virginia as a consultant. "Daniel Day Lewis is wonderful as Lincoln, and Sally Fields is playing Mary and Tommy Lee Jones is in it," she said.
Co-star Walter Goggins (who plays democratic senator Wells Hutchins)
On a lot of people’s lists, Daniel is probably the best actor of his generation, and two subsequent generations. He’s that specific. What it does for me is it reminds me of how important this is. It’s nice to have that daily, almost minute-by-minute, reminder. This isn’t just a story about Lincoln. We’re not just doing another story about Lincoln. This is Steven Spielberg doing a story about one of the most flawed men, who is also one of the greatest men, and certainly one of the greatest presidents we’ve ever had, and feeling the weight that he was under and what was going on in this country. It was the schism that forever changed this country. So, when you have an actor that approaches the work that way, you show up to work every day with your *beep* A-game.
Joseph Gordon Levitt on working with DDL
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It was really unique. I had absolutely no problem fully believing that I was standing across from and speaking to Abraham Lincoln. It was uncanny. I’ve never experienced anything quite like it, to be honest. It just seemed like him — this guy, this icon that’s been in my head since I was born. We all have this image of this historical figure, and it totally felt like that was my dad. He didn’t seem like, he didn’t look Daniel Day-Lewis the actor at all.
John Hawkes
I only worked one day with Mr. Lewis and was just really blown away by his work. I felt like I had gotten to spend 13 hours with Abraham Lincoln. I really did. It was an indescrible experience and was strangely moving to see another actor at the top of his game and doing such amazing work and embodying his character..."
He also says great things about Spielberg, richmond, and the'phenominal script" which he calls "one of the best studio scripts" he's read in a really long time. He talks about how Kushner has "a really unique way... of telling an epic story in a really human way."
David Strathairn
With a script by Tony Kushner, "Lincoln," Strathairn says, was an extraordinary experience.
"There was a kind of sanctity to the whole production," he says. "There is definitely a reason why Lincoln is held in such awe and reverence. And Tony's script is so insightful and loving. Daniel Day-Lewis' performance as Lincoln is going to knock people's socks off."
And on this video you can hear from Spielberg himself:
http://a.oscar.go.com/video/PL55103820/_m_VD55175280
David Oyelowo (who plays a black calvaryman)
How was working on Steven Spielberg’s ‘Lincoln’?
David Oyelowo: That was just incredible. Daniel Day Lewis is my favorite actor of all-time. To get to share words, to share a scene, and for the person who calls “Cut” behind the monitor to be Spielberg was one of those where I can die happy. These two guys were at the absolute top of their game. I play a union cavalryman and we’re not allowed to talk too much about it because Steven likes to keep things under wrap. It’s a very powerful role and there’s a great interaction between myself and President Lincoln and it sets up the movie really.
Kathleen Kennedy...
Day-Lewis 'sublime' as Lincoln
(UKPA) – 9 hours ago
Daniel Day-Lewis is "absolutely sublime" as Abraham Lincoln, producer Kathleen Kennedy has revealed.
The actor portrays the former US President in Steven Spielberg's upcoming biographical drama, Lincoln, alongside Sally Field as his screen wife Mary Todd.
"He is beyond description. He is just absolutely sublime. You will not be disappointed," Kathleen promised.
The producer, Spielberg's long-time collaborator, added that they have finished filming it, and are in the process of post-production.
However, the War Horse filmmaker refused to let too much slip about the film, adding: "I can't say anything about Lincoln yet because I am still in the process with the movie. I never speak about them until the time is right."
Goodwin--author of Team of Rivals-- (yesterday)
"Team of Rivals" is being made into a movie by Steven Spielberg, and Goodwin said she got to sit in on the set in Virginia as a consultant. "Daniel Day Lewis is wonderful as Lincoln, and Sally Fields is playing Mary and Tommy Lee Jones is in it," she said.
Co-star Walter Goggins (who plays democratic senator Wells Hutchins)
On a lot of people’s lists, Daniel is probably the best actor of his generation, and two subsequent generations. He’s that specific. What it does for me is it reminds me of how important this is. It’s nice to have that daily, almost minute-by-minute, reminder. This isn’t just a story about Lincoln. We’re not just doing another story about Lincoln. This is Steven Spielberg doing a story about one of the most flawed men, who is also one of the greatest men, and certainly one of the greatest presidents we’ve ever had, and feeling the weight that he was under and what was going on in this country. It was the schism that forever changed this country. So, when you have an actor that approaches the work that way, you show up to work every day with your *beep* A-game.
Joseph Gordon Levitt on working with DDL
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It was really unique. I had absolutely no problem fully believing that I was standing across from and speaking to Abraham Lincoln. It was uncanny. I’ve never experienced anything quite like it, to be honest. It just seemed like him — this guy, this icon that’s been in my head since I was born. We all have this image of this historical figure, and it totally felt like that was my dad. He didn’t seem like, he didn’t look Daniel Day-Lewis the actor at all.
John Hawkes
I only worked one day with Mr. Lewis and was just really blown away by his work. I felt like I had gotten to spend 13 hours with Abraham Lincoln. I really did. It was an indescrible experience and was strangely moving to see another actor at the top of his game and doing such amazing work and embodying his character..."
He also says great things about Spielberg, richmond, and the'phenominal script" which he calls "one of the best studio scripts" he's read in a really long time. He talks about how Kushner has "a really unique way... of telling an epic story in a really human way."
David Strathairn
With a script by Tony Kushner, "Lincoln," Strathairn says, was an extraordinary experience.
"There was a kind of sanctity to the whole production," he says. "There is definitely a reason why Lincoln is held in such awe and reverence. And Tony's script is so insightful and loving. Daniel Day-Lewis' performance as Lincoln is going to knock people's socks off."
And on this video you can hear from Spielberg himself:
http://a.oscar.go.com/video/PL55103820/_m_VD55175280
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Thanks for the info! It's cool to hear Spielberg praise the score to War Horse, and acknowledge the whole "vote splitting" effect. Sometimes I think it's just an excuse that we JWFans come up with to avoid killing ourselves over JW's frequent losses. 
Anyways, Lincoln sounds great, can't wait!
Anyways, Lincoln sounds great, can't wait!
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Lincoln sounds like it's going to be one of Spielberg's best. War Horse's biggest problem was with it's script and if Lincoln's script is as good as everyone is saying then it should be really great.
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Williams should record his score to Spielberg's Lincoln this month in Chicago with the CSO. Anyone got more info about it? IMDb's page lists Alejandro de la Llosa as "music supervisor" and LA session guitarist George Doering as one of the featured musicians.
"It's still baffling to me. I sit down with a pencil and a piece of paper and do my best... The remarkable thing is that my music is heard by billions of people." --John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 11:03 AM
Williams should record his score to Spielberg's Lincoln this month in Chicago with the CSO. Anyone got more info about it? IMDb's page lists Alejandro de la Llosa as "music supervisor" and LA session guitarist George Doering as one of the featured musicians.
Ah, finally some news on Lincoln. Thanks.
Sound interesting and unexpected.
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I think he used alejandro before. I know his name.
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Interesting. JW doesn't use solo guitars very often. I can't wait!
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 02:49 PM
Yeah doesn't seem like something he would do in a presidential score. Curious.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Well it may represent some rustic, folksy part of the film.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 02:58 PM
Interesting. JW doesn't use solo guitars very often. I can't wait!
Doering is listed only as musician in IMDB so I don't think we can jump to conclusions that he will be a soloist and not just part of the orchestra. It will be interesting and quite surprising if there is solo guitar involved, not exactly the first instrument to spring to mind when thinking of US presidents as you say but it could be used to great effect in more intimate moments. I am looking forward to this score a lot.Yeah doesn't seem like something he would do in a presidential score. Curious.
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And I certainly would welcome a fresh approach. I know the historical backdrop might warrant the usual burnished brass and stately strings but soloists and allusions to period sounds and instrumentation might be an interesting change.
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Any word on a ukelele?
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 03:04 PM
You reckon there will be a quick detour to events on Hawaii in the film?Any word on a ukelele?
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 03:06 PM
That is were he gets shot in the Hollywood version.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 03:06 PM
Johnny could always recycle his score for Diamond Head then. Clever.That is were he gets shot in the Hollywood version.
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I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
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I hear that thanks to modern medicine and reduced gun powder Daniel Day Lewis is expected to make a full recovery from being shot in the back of the head.
I just don't get these method actors and their do anything attitude for their craft.
I just don't get these method actors and their do anything attitude for their craft.
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I have a feeling this score will end up being like Burwell's True Grit. Maybe it will not sound similar at all, but I'm refering to the approach of a more authentically period-based score.
Basically what Icanus said
However, I'm very curious about this! Could be a chance for Johnny to write something different than usual....
Basically what Icanus said
However, I'm very curious about this! Could be a chance for Johnny to write something different than usual....
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At the recent BMI Film, & TV Awards night, Williams talked briefly about Lincoln:
So it seems the score has already been recorded.
So it seems the score has already been recorded.
"It's still baffling to me. I sit down with a pencil and a piece of paper and do my best... The remarkable thing is that my music is heard by billions of people." --John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:47 AM
Strange, he looks more lively than, say, then years ago.
But then again, his music also sounds "younger" these days.
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But then again, his music also sounds "younger" these days.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:48 AM
Great catch Maurizio! Looks like people are either going to be thrilled like I am when Williams mentioned the style and tone of the score as being "hymnal" or they are going to just expect the worst. And hopefully there will be soloist writing since he also mentions great instrumental performances.
Looks like people are either going to be thrilled like I am when Williams mentioned the style and tone of the score as being "hymnal" or they are going to just expect the worst. And hopefully there will be soloist writing since he also mentions great instrumental performances.
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It's a nice tease. I was hoping Williams would go back to 19th century stylings for this score. I'm glad I saw right
Can't wait to hear what John wrote for Dale Clevenger's haunting horn and Mathieu Dufour's beautiful flute.
Can't wait to hear what John wrote for Dale Clevenger's haunting horn and Mathieu Dufour's beautiful flute.
"It's still baffling to me. I sit down with a pencil and a piece of paper and do my best... The remarkable thing is that my music is heard by billions of people." --John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 01:02 PM
I found this a great picture of Williams (from the BMI Awards picture gallery http://www.zimbio.co...how/wSvmzZqRZfF) which seems to shout:
JOHN WILLIAMS WANTS YOU TO DO YOUR BIT FOR MUSIC!
Also this one seems to say "What do I do with these statuettes? I have enough of them already. I guess they're kind of nice and I could use them as book ends or something"
JOHN WILLIAMS WANTS YOU TO DO YOUR BIT FOR MUSIC!
Also this one seems to say "What do I do with these statuettes? I have enough of them already. I guess they're kind of nice and I could use them as book ends or something"
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 01:43 PM
Nice photos! I like using photos of the man as iPod album covers for his live concerts. I don't really care if the concerts are years older than the photos. And when I mean album covers, I usually just use the photo as-is, without any titles.
I'm glad to see that Williams is using the vocabulary of the 19th century for this score. I wouldn't want him to use any notes that were invented in the 20th century or later...
I'm glad to see that Williams is using the vocabulary of the 19th century for this score. I wouldn't want him to use any notes that were invented in the 20th century or later...
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 01:51 PM
Nice photos! I like using photos of the man as iPod album covers for his live concerts. I don't really care if the concerts are years older than the photos. And when I mean album covers, I usually just use the photo as-is, without any titles.
I do this too, for his concert works...
Izena duen guztia omen da.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 01:56 PM
nice news
I hope Episode III is Called 'Revenge of the Sith'
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 02:30 PM
I would conjecture that "hymnal" equals an American version of Warhorse, in terms of the pastoral music of the latter. For instance, Simple Gifts but pure Williams. Though I think Spielberg mentioned there would be a war scene or two in the picture, so maybe some war stuff as well. Either way, it sounds perfect for the film and great prospects for standalone music.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 02:37 PM
Sounds promising to me!
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 02:38 PM
Indeed!Sounds promising to me!
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 02:47 PM
Excellent news! This is my favorite photo from the event:
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1. Nightwatch/Killer By Night - Johnny Williams and Quincy Jones 2. Diamond Head/Gone with the Wave - Johnny Williams/Lalo Schifrin 3. Mass - Leonard Bernstein 4. Bernstein with the New York Philharmonic - Leonard Bernstein
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 02:59 PM
Paging Blume, we need a caption contest for that pic!
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 03:01 PM
Sounds very promising indeed! I'm really looking forward to this!
And I loved that interview. He seems so full of life! I wonder if writing music for Tintin and War Horse has made him feel younger...
Either way, can't wait to hear what Johnny's preparing for us
And I loved that interview. He seems so full of life! I wonder if writing music for Tintin and War Horse has made him feel younger...
Either way, can't wait to hear what Johnny's preparing for us
If you start taking yourself seriously, then you’re in deep trouble! - Jerry Goldsmith
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 04:31 PM
I like this one:
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Ha, these pics, and captions gave me a good laugh. Thanks, and good find!
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 07:29 PM
Working on meaningful things you love keeps you young and energized. John Williams is no exception.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 11:00 PM
No Alzheimer for Williams!
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