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#41 bondo

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 01:23 AM

Does Republic Commando contain any unreleased AOTC/ROTS music?

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 02:09 AM

Does Republic Commando contain any unreleased AOTC/ROTS music?


No. It's got some TPM stuff and an interesting original soundtrack... and clips from Jeremy Soule's "Morrowind" (why not?).

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 02:17 AM

I don't know what to make of "Kashyyyk Droid Cave." The gutteral singing is there, but the orchestral music bears no resemblance to the film cue. And as I said, the last few notes are from Anakin and Padme's "No, I promise YOU" conversation.

What about the music from Wookie Quest Accept from 0:11-0:24...?

By the way someone was asking about the Platform Finale...from 0:00-0:06 is when Grievous opens his arms after he grabs the lightsabers and before he ignites them when he fights Obi-Wan on Utapau....

Same cue but from 0:59-1:21 is right after the Clones arrive and we hear that eerie music we hear when they do a close up of Grievous's eyes...


Thanks. And "Wookiee Quest Fail" is the cue when Obi-Wan drops the block onto Grievous's guards.

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 02:25 AM

Quick question, since you seem to be the go to guy(s) :) : Where/when is "Grievous and the Droids" used in the film? I'm trying to sequence the album cues chronologically and I can't figure out where to put it

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 02:27 AM

Quick question, since you seem to be the go to guy(s)  :)  : Where/when is "Grievous and the Droids" used in the film? I'm trying to sequence the album cues chronologically and I can't figure out where to put it

Basically right after Track 1's Battle of Coruscant. Jim Ware's entire chronological cue list has been put up on the main page.
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Posted 31 May 2005 - 02:37 AM

So far I've got (includes CD tracks and material from SW Galaxies, which are noted):

1. Star Wars & the Revenge of the Sith
2. Grievous and the Droids
3. Coruscant Fanfare - Another Happy Landing (2M3)
4. Grievous Speaks to Lord Sidious
5. Anakin's Dream
6. Council Meeting (3M1)
7. Palpatine's Big Pitch - Darth Plagueis (3M3)
8. Goodbye Old Friend Alternate (3M5)
9. Going to Utapau (3M6)
10 . Palpatine's Seduction Pt. 2 (4M3)
11. Obi-Wan vs Grievous' Guards (11 sec)
12. General Grievous
13. Padme's Ruminations
14. Anakin's Betrayal
15. Lament Extended Ending (5M3)
16. Enter Lord Vader
17. Anakin's Dark Deeds
18. Padme's Visit - Arrival on Mustafar (6M3)
19. Anakin vs Obi-Wan
20. Palpatine vs Yoda (Duel of the Fates)
21. Yoda Falls (6M6)
22. Battle of the Heroes
23. The Immolation Scene
24. Anakin Crawling (7M2)
25. Birth of the Twins & Padme's Destiny
26. A New Hope & End Credits

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 02:38 AM

The first part of "Grievous and the Droids," up until after Luke's Theme, WOULD HAVE underscored the crash landing in the Invisible Hand and the ensuing battle, but it was dialled out. Part of the later action music in "Grievous in the Droids" underscores the bridge battle. The unused part is tracked into the Utapau battle... now, I'm not sure if it was supposed to go with the bridge battle as well.

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 03:11 AM

I usually don't skip threads,but I somehow did this one...,unreleased Sith material? :) where it it.please someone PM me.


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Posted 31 May 2005 - 03:41 AM

I don't think anyone's mentioned this: "Trandoshan Quest Success" 0:19-0:29 is a bit of the finale music in which Bail Organa orders Threepio's memory wiped.

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 03:48 AM

So is that 7M5 - Plans For the Twins or 7M7 - A Home For the Twins?

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 03:51 AM

I think it's the end of 7M5.

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 06:05 AM

Thank you for the PM's.

Lord Skylark,is it possible to learn those powers...If not can you update the UNRELEASED EP3 music files to higher bitrate ones(192 instead of 128)?

Very glad we have the cue Another Happy Landing,plus a few other transition fanfares.And some of the Going to Utaupau music.Plus the unreleased part of Lament is beautiful,I made a pretty good edit into the c.d. cue.

I hope more of this stuff leaks out.Since some Ep 2 unreleased music made it,it may mean that the complete score are in the hands of the game people.Lets hope enough leaks to issue a bootleg so that Sony will have to counter it with somekind of expanded edition,if that is what it takes to get them to release it.

Ok,I've inserted all the little bits in between the OST tracks,this is so cool,I want more!It improves the OST ten folds.I now pray for the opening of A New Hope,Padme's Funeral and Yoda Says Bye to Wookies to fall from the sky.

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 08:53 AM

All in all we have 7 minutes of new RotS music with this

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 09:11 AM

I would be very very grateful if anyone would be willing to send me the cues. Please PM me! Thanks!

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 09:29 AM

PM! please!!!!!

And many thanks in advance :|

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 10:28 AM

Interestingly enough, the two cues that are mysterious in their placement also happen to segue into each other nicely, whether by coincidence or not. The ending of "Droid Cave" is in the same key as the opening of the new music in "Wookie Quest Accept"...
Also, "Trandoshan Quest Accept" ends in the same key as the start of "Riding the Lizard", and "Ryatt Trail" ends in the same key that the next cue ("Chasing Grievous in the Wheel Droid" or whatever it's called) starts in.

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 01:13 PM

As they appear in order...

mus_wookie_quest_accept end = End of Space Battle, where Obi-Wan jumps out of his ship and Ignites his lightsaber
mus_wookie_quest_success second half = Another Happy Landing
mus_kashyyyk_rodian_safari = Just after Anakin complains about being put on the council and not being a master
mus_rodian_quest_success end = The end of the fanfare is used as a transition to Anakin's dream about Padmé
mus_kashyyyk_droid_cave without the middle synthy bit (used later)
which fades into...
mus_trandoshan_quest_accept beginning
some more stuff goes on for about 2 minutes that we don't have, then back to...
mus_trandoshan_quest_accept (end)
mus_wookie_quest_fail = as Obi-Wan drops that huge bit of metal on those droids before fighting Grievous
mus_avatar_platform_final beginning = When Grievous takes off his cloak and reveals his lightsabers to Obi-Wan
mus_avatar_platform_final end (where the timps start) = When the Camera close-up of Grievous' eyes occurs
mus_kashyyyk_ryratt_trail = When Palps talks to Anakin about the power of the Dark Side (edited in film)
mus_kashyyyk_elders_hut = When Anakin kills the Younglings
mus_kashyyyk_droid_cave (middle) = When Obi-Wan comes out of the Water
mus_rodian_quest_accept = Padmé goes to Mustafar (more of it in the Film)
mus_rodian_quest_fail = The end of the battle with Darth Sidious and Yoda
mus_kashyyyk_dead_forest (end) = When Darth Sidious saves Darth Vader at Mustafar
mus_trandoshan_quest_success (small part from middle) = When thingbob asks for the Protocol Droid's memory to be wiped

If I've missed anything, lemme know :|

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 01:20 PM

I would also love these cues. Would anyone who has them mind PMing me?

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 01:24 PM

Same here.

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 02:29 PM

same here. wrote a mail to lordskylark but didn't get a reply :/

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 03:05 PM

Right. Thanks for all the hard work! Is there somebody who is able to post a detailed cue list how to edit the soundtrack with these cues to match the order Williams originally intended?

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 06:39 PM

Right. Thanks for all the hard work! Is there somebody who is able to post a detailed cue list how to edit the soundtrack with these cues to match the order Williams originally intended?

Just wait for my Complete Score -- I'm releasing it tomorrow, Anyone who wants it can PM me for a link :P

It's a mighty fine release :shakehead:

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 06:57 PM

I am looking forward to this :shakehead:

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 07:09 PM

Jack, you da man! :shakehead:

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 07:15 PM

What wonderful news! :P Great work Sky!

My only question is... How come this unreleased music wasn't discovered sooner? I thought the E3 games were out for a while now? :shakehead:

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 08:08 PM

I'd be most appreciative if anyone whose navigated their way to this new material could point me in the direction of how to find the files. I've been on to the Star Wars Galaxies site, but luddite that I am, have become totally confused by the whole thing.

Thanking you in anticipation. :shakehead:

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 08:45 PM

I hoped somehow by today the whole score without SFX would be available...oh well.Maybe cue by cue it will happen.

I must say that by finally putting this score in the best chronological order possible it has grown on me a lot.Battle of the Heroes is much better after Anakin vs ObiWan.The little snippets of unreleased fanfares brightens up things considerably,especially Another Happy Landing,and Going to Utaupau.

Again,I must say that those 20 unreleased seconds of Lament is the part of the score that most grabbed me in the cinema.It can be almost seamlessly edited into the c.d. track with some patience,raising it to a whole new level IMO.

Again,a higher bitrate version of the files containing unreleased music would be appreciated.

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 09:24 PM

For the galaxies music... The raw files were mp3s. So, even if I made a higher bitrate, it wouldn't do anything.

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 09:28 PM

ah,I kind of figured.Anyways what we have is better than nothing and enhances the OST greatly.

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 10:10 PM

Interestingly enough, the two cues that are mysterious in their placement also happen to segue into each other nicely, whether by coincidence or not. The ending of "Droid Cave" is in the same key as the opening of the new music in "Wookie Quest Accept"...


True. I think I will edit it this way, although keep in mind...

- the "Droid Cave" music, although it has the gutteral singing of the ballet, does not match any film cue.
- the last two-three notes of "Droid Cave" appear during Anakin and Padme's conversation (where Anakin promises to save Padme), after which the music segues to Obi-Wan's Utapau arrival (which is the "Trandoshan Quest Accept" music).

Also, "Trandoshan Quest Accept" ends in the same key as the start of "Riding the Lizard", and "Ryatt Trail" ends in the same key that the next cue ("Chasing Grievous in the Wheel Droid" or whatever it's called) starts in.


Yes, because this is how it goes in the film (except that most of "Chasing Grievous" is dialled out, so "Palpatine's Seduction" leads to nothing).

mus_wookie_quest_accept end = End of Space Battle, where Obi-Wan jumps out of his ship and Ignites his lightsaber


I don't think so. This scene is silent in the film, but it was scored with the beginning of "Grievous and the Droids" (try watching Episode III with a CD player, everything syncs perfectly). As elvisjones2005 pointed out, this bit is in the same key as the end of "Droid Cave."

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 10:13 PM

Interestingly enough, the two cues that are mysterious in their placement also happen to segue into each other nicely, whether by coincidence or not. The ending of "Droid Cave" is in the same key as the opening of the new music in "Wookie Quest Accept"...


True. I think I will edit it this way, although keep in mind...

- the "Droid Cave" music, although it has the gutteral singing of the ballet, does not match any film cue.
- the last two-three notes of "Droid Cave" appear during Anakin and Padme's conversation (where Anakin promises to save Padme), after which the music segues to Obi-Wan's Utapau arrival (which is the "Trandoshan Quest Accept" music).

Also, "Trandoshan Quest Accept" ends in the same key as the start of "Riding the Lizard", and "Ryatt Trail" ends in the same key that the next cue ("Chasing Grievous in the Wheel Droid" or whatever it's called) starts in.


Yes, because this is how it goes in the film (except that most of "Chasing Grievous" is dialled out, so "Palpatine's Seduction" leads to nothing).

mus_wookie_quest_accept end = End of Space Battle, where Obi-Wan jumps out of his ship and Ignites his lightsaber


I don't think so. This scene is silent in the film, but it was scored with the beginning of "Grievous and the Droids" (try watching Episode III with a CD player, everything syncs perfectly). As elvisjones2005 pointed out, this bit is in the same key as the end of "Droid Cave."


Nope... the very last thing you hear.. like the last 3 seconds of mus_wookie_quest_accept are DEFINETELY from the last 3 seconds of the Beginning space battle.. as Obi-Wan Jumps out of his ship and hits that droid with his light saber.. I'm positive! 100% :shakehead: and I think you've possibly misunderstood what scene I'm talking about because Grievous and the Droids isn't used at all in the beginning space battle, it isn't used until the point where Grievous starts fighting with Obi-Wan and Anakin in his ship and then he smashes the window and makes his escape...

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 10:21 PM

OK... so does the TPM folder there have unreleased TPM music? If so, which tracks?

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 10:35 PM

It has a lot, but the files are in poor quality. I will be getting lordskylark files from the PC version soon - wait for those.

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Posted 01 June 2005 - 12:05 AM

JackChapple is right...however, everything up until those last few seconds is different.

(first post!) :|

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Posted 01 June 2005 - 12:37 AM

JackChapple is right...however, everything up until those last few seconds is different.

(first post!)  :|

Yep, thanks, and welcome ;)

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Posted 02 June 2005 - 03:21 AM

Music from "Racer Revenge" is now up at the FTP. I can't check it with my dial-up connection... anyone want to see if there's new music there? (Based on the time period, I believe it could only have TPM music.)

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Posted 02 June 2005 - 08:56 AM

Music from "Racer Revenge" is now up at the FTP. I can't check it with my dial-up connection... anyone want to see if there's new music there? (Based on the time period, I believe it could only have TPM music.)


the link doesnt work. its like ftp:ftp
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Posted 02 June 2005 - 12:11 PM

Could anyone give a detailed breakdown of 'Droid Cave'? (The Ballet - The Cave - The Ballet - Conversation? at what time exactly?)

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Posted 02 June 2005 - 02:25 PM

Music from "Racer Revenge" is now up at the FTP. I can't check it with my dial-up connection... anyone want to see if there's new music there? (Based on the time period, I believe it could only have TPM music.)


the link doesnt work. its like ftp:ftp

Probably becuase we can't post links here.

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Posted 02 June 2005 - 02:41 PM

i think the ballet runs the whole cue. the cave is superimposed to it. Impossible to edit it out it is (if i understood cerrabore right).

About trandoshan quest accept. It is not Obi Wans arrival to utapau. it is R4 departure from Utapau (or Obi wans fake departure), that's why it sync completely with Ridding the lizard. They are separete cues but one follows the other.




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