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#1 nonens

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 05:04 PM

Hello,

First I'm going to apologize for my mistakes, but i'm a french fan of John Williams, and unfortunately such websites don't exist in french, so my english is certainly going to be scolar or full of mistakes.
Anyway i am going to introduce myself, as a new member: i'm 17 years old, and I principaly discovered JW with the score of Harry Potter and the philosopher stone. Since I discovered a lot of other scores, and my favorites are these from HP 3, Home Alone, and extracts of others films (the March from 1941, the theme from Superman, the Imperial march of SW, of course.......)

Anyway, I just discovered that JW isn't going to write and conduct (or better said, hasn't written and conducted), and that he 's replaced by Doyle. Does anyone know the reason of this ? i'm disapointed (sorry, i don't know if it's the right adjective to express what i think), and does it mean that it's the end of the JW Harry Potter scores ?

Thanks a lot !

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 05:09 PM

Welcome to the MB.

John Williams was not replaced by Doyle.

John Williams chose to score another film (Memoirs Of A Geisha) instead of yet another Harry Potter score.
I'm guessing because that project offered the chance to explore something he has not really delved into before.

It's not like they kicked out JW and went with Doyle instead.

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 05:13 PM

You better watch your step...this place can get a little rough.

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 05:20 PM

Ok, thank you, I believed JW were "threw out" by the productors...
I think it's too bad, do you think he will write again for HP5 ?

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 05:22 PM

At this point, we really don't know. But it's possible JW decided to kiss the Harry Potter franchise goodbye.

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 05:26 PM

Ok...
Personnaly I think it's too bad, but let's wait for the CD, we will see what it is ....
Maybe it will be as good as JW (I don't believe so, but who knows ?), or good but in a different way....

Anyway, in what famous films has Doyle written ?

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 05:34 PM

Great Expetactions, Henry V, Sense and Sensibility, Hamlet, Frankenstein.

He has some fantastic scores...you should check them out.

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 05:36 PM

Here are probably his most well known films.

# Bridget Jones's Diary (2001)
# Donnie Brasco (1997)
# Hamlet (1996)
# Sense and Sensibility (1995)
# Mary Shelley's Frankenstein (1994)
# Carlito's Way (1993)
# Henry V (1989)

Doyle is considered a top-notch filmcomposer who has his own style and an output of consistant quality.

He may not be John Williams, but he's certainly no Trevor Rabin or Steve Jablonsky either.

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 06:00 PM

First of all WELCOME to our Message Board! :)
It is unfortunate Williams has left the HP series to pursue other projects but his has a limited schedule and he chose to score Memoirs of the Geisha instead of GOF. Patrick Doyle would not have been my first choice for the composer of HP film but he has written few good scores IMO (none finer than Henry V his first score by the way). Still I am waiting what he has come up with and hoping he will use Williams' old themes of course. :sigh:

Doyle is the composer in residence of Kenneth Branagh and has scored all his Shalkespeare adaptations to the date. I have thus far heard Hamlet, Henry V and Much Ado about Nothing which have all been rather good. Music for the Robert Altman film Gosford Park was subtle and somewhat bland score but is worked marvels in the film. Besides those mentioned I have not listened that much of Doyle's music.

I wish Williams would return to the Potter series but I have a bad feeling he will not. He has too much other projects which there seems to be a growing list. Spielberg keeps him busy with all his films (I wait eagerly for Indy 4). I am little disappointed that the thematic development of the Potter saga suffers because of the change of the composer and director (who all have different tastes regarding the use of music). For HP POA Alfonso Cuaron apparently had his own ideas for the music and much of the old themes were abandoned but IMO Williams wrote still the strongest score of the series. So it is a shame Williams can't continue musical development of the series.

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 06:20 PM

I hate those pretentious Kenneth Branagh movies.

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 06:32 PM

You mean you hate Shakespeare, right? :)

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 06:53 PM

You've not experienced Shakespeare until you've read it in the original Canadian.

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 10:39 PM

Well, when you compare Shakespeare to someone like Jo Rowling, things can get tough... :roll:

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