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Something odd on disc 2. Track 22 is "The Conversation" and track 23 is "Inside". That's a little fast, I think. Shouldn't there be something like a "Kiss" between?

Yep and a great cue, can't wait to hear the rest of the score

JW: "Hey Arista, let's make this a 2LP set, okay?" Arista: "Sure, Mr. Williams."

Only the most enfranchised fanboys have any clue what the Old Republic era is all about. The period is almost entirely unknown to the casual Star Wars fan and moviegoer. It'd be a very rich area in the series' lore to explore. Definitely enough material to sustain a film trilogy.

Maybe if you're an amateur! Oftentimes, even The Conversation gets skipped over.

Statement from La-La Land on FSM: So glad you guys are excited by this release. To be honest with you, we didn't even think it was going to happen until we did Braveheart a few years back. We are deeply honored to have been able to bring this dream project to life with the full cooperation of Mr Horner's estate, agency, Fox, Paramount, Sony Music and Lightstorm (and we got it signed off on just as they started shooting the new Avatar films!). While it would have been nice to include the song, we were frankly told that IF we wanted to include it we may want to schedule the release for the 25th anniversary! lol You can bemoan all you want about the song, but the fact is that our goal was to present the original score as Mr Horner recorded for the film. The song would have been nice, but beyond complicated. We are film score fans. In the end, that's what matters the most. MV http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=123920&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=187#

It was somehow predictable that they wouldn't twice create a fully new cover, but one fully new cover and one familiar old fashioned cover. I like it! It's the opposite of E.T.! And the idea to include a dropped 2LP presentation ... just brilliant!

It's the exact same photo. OMG, they photoshoped the inclination of his head!

I think it is. I'm sooooo excited. I really can't wait. Common Disney, give us some track previews.

3:27 is just a variation on Anakin's theme, but a very nice one for sure.

I noticed that the Last Jedi soundtrack is now available for preorder on iTunes... just purchased my copy in advance. Man, only 3 weeks left to go... my nerd anticipation for both the score and film has been set to maximum overdrive. Can't wait!

What a great thread... just discovering it now. Bummer that a lot of the YouTube content has been pulled, but appreciate the timing & track references. This is actually one of my pet loves about JW's scores -- just these little moments that he drops in there, sometimes with these amazing themes that are never heard again. And it's always perfectly set to the story beats in the visuals (as if the musical accomplishment by itself wasn't enough). Not sure if it was mentioned earlier, but I feel like track 8 (He is the Chosen One) of the TPM soundtrack is basically an entire track full of these. These mysterioso chords at 0:03 to 0:24 that segue into something that sounds like it's going to be the Force theme, but doesn't quite get there: This painfully beautiful coda out of Anakin's theme at 0:31 and into this amazing religioso low brass chorale at 0:44 (segment ends around 1:01): This 12/8 agitato string figure that starts at 1:38, is joined by a partial statement of the Force theme, and then the segment winds down with a series of tender cadences starting about 2:01, the last one (2:14) punctuated with harp & celeste: And the end of this track -- I just wanna hug it, and squeeze it, and call it George. 3:20 starts with another one of these moving cadence passages that are all over this track, and then JW just casually drops this beautiful hymn for strings and winds (3:27; which we never hear again, AFAIK) which winds down with the horns changing the character from lyrical to noble. And can we just marvel at the precision of the LSO brass on that fanfare that ends the track? Every time I hear this I'm just stunned with the uniformity of articulation and note length, and better than even money it was that way right from the first reading: Now, if I were a film music composer, I gotta think I would give my left nut/ovary to have composed any one of these moments. And JW's scores have countless of these things.

Absolutely thrilled, and looking forward to the first appearance of Inside (kind of coming full circle to when one of my earliest purchases was a new record called Pops in Space, which included the SE material). The crossover arrangement of the theme will be missed - Meco's was disco, JW's much better one was closer to jazz funk - but it sounds fine on Audio Fidelity's 2015 release and I can see how it wasn't necessary here. I'm really glad the Maestro got to realize his original LP plans... with much better sound and editing. Hands down my fav score, or musical work of any kind, ever.

I can't believe it's real!

Reading the title Then reading the post

How do you began to prostitute yourself? - "Well, I'm a JW completist."

I'm not doing that for JP I and II. Maybe for Harry Potter or Star Wars prequels or Hook, we'll see. And I live in Europe, the shipping fees are insane.

Do you know the meaning of the word "regret"?

I really want to hear something already guys, because this waiting is like a torture. John Williams is my soul fuel. What do you think about getting a glimpse of a recording session before the movie release, like "60 Minutes" back in 2015?

Indeed. It has more to do with the heavy influence of English music on his work. You hear strains of Britten or old English hymns all over his scores.

That would be Spielberg's secret account. He is the original JWFan after all

Is William still the youngest? Wonder if anybody younger has joined and posts regularly. I seem to remember there's someone here (or maybe a few) who got into Williams pre-Jaws. Not sure if they'd even necessarily be the oldest, though.

Too many arpegios for Willy.

@Xinau Finally another post with my degree of enthusiasm about JW! That track is indeed pretty great. Cool to go through it with your "listening guide" of sorts.

OK... Seven people then... Karol

Is it not possible to try to solve the puzzle of the score's chronology while also giving the new presentation a chance?

http://www.instyle.com/reviews-coverage/music/tina-guo-wonder-woman-theme-song A quick google search reveals Guo and Zimmer co-wrote the theme. Tina Guo:

Brilliant score. Absolutely first rate!

Visitor in San Diego, Quidditch Year Three and Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra have got to be some of my favourites.

First cue released: Sounds pleasant enough. Excited for this one.

We better be getting more of these for Last Jedi, @Loert!

That's pretty awesome. Aside from seeing the movie once and having the 10-minute suite and The Dialogue on the Spielberg set, this'll be my first time listening to any of this music, so I love how it'll be a nice presentation, while still allowing the potential for a future C&C arrangement when I get into it more, as long as we'll have a guide in the booklet (or here).

Yeah I kind of dig it. The should put this kind of thought into more expanded editions.

The presentation might look weird at first glance, but its brilliant to listen to. It's a similar situation to ET, where the complete score is too long to fit on one disc, and the shortest cues are on disc 2 instead. If you notice, the first disc is only non-chronological in the first half; Once they escape and make their way up Devil's Tower its all straightforward. Cues combined on disc one stem from how Williams wanted the music presented back in 1977 for his planned 2LP set and really improve the listening experience by replacing abrupt endings with segues to music that fits perfectly in tone. Disc 2 is like an alternate presentation of the score again, starting at the beginning and ending at the end, and including many alternate takes of what you hear on disc 1, plus much of the same music that was combined with something else on disc 1 now in their own track so one can easily make their own C&C playlists if desired, as well as some of the cue combos from the final 1LP, too... and all the source music! It's really best to not worry about all that stuff though, and just put in disc 1 and press play, and then put in disc 2 and press play. Both are great listening experiences, and you should really experience this masterpiece of a score that way at least once to see what Williams and Matessino have cooked up here. If its not to your liking, a C&C playlist is super simple to create.

This looks like a definitive presentation of this score (how couldn't it be, with Neil at the helm!), and I hope it means Neil will get to keep going and do TWINE and TND next!

Also it could be that the score is MIXED very badly so that's why it was not standing out. It's been true of most JW scores in the past 20 years I think that Williams style of music, when mixed too low, doesn't do it any favors

Well, he's no Cor Blok, that's for sure.

It isn't a problem of outdated sound, which is why the 007 theme is still applicable. These older superhero themes simply have nothing to do with these incarnations of the characters, they are tonally incorrect. To use them, whilst scrapping their new, appropriate ones, was simply an asinine decision. There's no defense for it.

Same. I used to carry around a pocket book version of the Hildebrandt illustrations when I was a kid. They were my first exposure to Tolkien illustrations. And while you can argue that they have more character than your usual sweeping Tolkien depictions, I think Howe/Lee/Nasmith are closer to my preferred Middle-Earth aesthetic.

No emboss, no deal.

Indeed! They're both fantastic!

I Can Fly Anything! Was just watching that scene again a few days ago and was reminded how Williams' incredible cue transforms a normal ho-hum action scene into an absolutely marvelous piece of rhythmic excitement.

This is my apprentice, Darth Junkie. He will find your lost score...

I want that treaty signed.

Chris Martin is a God. (no Coldplay jokes please)

She's a pistol! Hope you can handle her.

Rey's Theme

That wonderful bit of music that plays when R2D2 and C3PO jettison from Princess Leia's ship in an escape pod in the original Star Wars. I remember moving the needle back on my record player and listening to that small bit of music over and over again.

Hmmm...is that a choir I hear in there? Well, actually it's not, but John cleverly uses muted, tremolo strings to create an impression of one.