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  1. Just saw this quote from Hamill (bottom line): https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/movies/last-jedi-star-wars.html It's probably nothing, but maybe this indicates that Dern's character has a new theme? Hamill's reference seems weird otherwise, although it could I guess just be a reference to the Jurassic Park mention. It's kind of a silly thing to post but I'm antsy for news right now.
    5 points
  2. I don't know how much personal experience you have with social anxiety, depression, or harmful addictions/obsessions/compulsions, but I'm guessing that anyone here who may be genuinely using Last Jedi, John Williams, or whatever else to distract themselves from the lack of anything fulfilling going on in their lives probably doesn't need you to inform them that they'd be so much better off if they could only enjoy the pleasure of good work, a healthy mind and body, a place to live where they feel safe at home, a partner or a spouse they love and trust, maybe a child, or even a friend. They're thinking about it. The last thing they need is anybody to tell them that they're weird or stupid because they're fantasizing about a movie soundtrack. That's not helpful nor is it telling it like it is. It's a lie and a distortion. I don't think it's our job to assume things about people's choices and life circumstances based on their message board posts, or speculate why someone might seem especially anxious or pissed off. It's not our business to guess whether someone watched a 30-second commercial over and over because they're a musician enjoying the hunt for a composer's musical signatures, or they have a compulsive personality or disorder, or they have a job that lets them goof around on the Internet, or because it's 3 am and they're single, broke, and lonely. It's definitely not our place to criticize or judge them for any of those reasons. I've been here since October 2010 and nobody here would have had any idea when I was doing fabulous or when I was struggling and why, and I know that because I don't know anything about you people. However I do have some sense that there are JWFans who are hurting and trying to escape, because they've shared it. I've been right there with them, though I've never dared post about it. There are probably others as well. If they really want our advice, they'll take it to Other Topics or a PM. Otherwise cut it out.
    5 points
  3. They do, but Jurassic Park still looks better...
    4 points
  4. There's more creativity in this BTS than in the 2h15min of TFA
    3 points
  5. Actually today(or maybe tomorrow) they have to release a recording session (if they will), because as you can remember "60 Minutes" released TFA recording session on 13th of December and Rogue One on 9th of December. That makes 5, 6 days before the release of the movie. So, Disney PLEASE give us a glimpse to TLJ recording session.
    3 points
  6. I will eat my hat if that turns out not to be John Williams. The rhythm accelerating through the measure is reminiscent of Imperial Attack and the Imperial March. The melody dances around but doesn't quite mimic the Imperial March completely, which you would expect since the First Order are descendants/copycats of the Empire (it would be anachronistic for Williams to quote the Imperial March in reference to the FO). A couple people mentioned the lack of woodwinds, but they're almost certainly doubling the strings in the latter half, in both the rhythm and the two runs (the latter of which sounds edited). Yep, I think it's at least three or four spliced chunks taken from that one relevant track on the leaked list, and if it isn't I shall quite happily stuff a hat down my throat, chocking myself to death so I don't have to bare the shame of being wrong on JWFan.
    3 points
  7. Sitting in the auditorium waiting for this!
    2 points
  8. McGregor or no sale.
    2 points
  9. Wow, definitely reminds me of earlier Williams, specifically from the late 80s. I knew Williams would never let me down with his new Star Wars score.
    2 points
  10. It's not Gordy's music, he just said he never heard this music before. The brass are definitely recorded, and for the strings it could be real orchestra with a layering of samples on the beginning because of the edit version for the advertising. Also, yes it's close of the Imperial March, but depending of what happens in the movie it could make sense to have something close of the Imperial March.. So in the end it could be something from the TLJ score.
    2 points
  11. Did anyone else notice the subtle implementation of the E.T. melody, possibly when Yoda's ghost shows up?
    2 points
  12. No recording session videos, no clips from movie with Williams music. TLJ marketing campaign is so poor.
    2 points
  13. Let's get back to TLJ shall we ? In order to do so, I came across this on youtube and I must say that I'm pretty sure this is from the soundtrack. What do you think ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
    2 points
  14. I'm 30 years old. I am like a child on Christmas Eve, I am impatient! I can't wait! I can't stop refreshing the pages! Psychoanalyse me all you want!
    2 points
  15. Or maybe because our freedom of press is not as threatened as in Trumpland...
    2 points
  16. In my experience the people who are obsessed with coming on boards like this and putting on a pretence of how much cooler and above it all they are than everyone else, and how much more of a "real life" they have, or how often they get laid, and what big losers everyone else is, are typically the most pathetic and insecure. There's a reason you don't see happy and successful men engaging in this kind of behaviour. Sorry if I'm hitting a little close to home. Not being a dick. Just sayin'.
    2 points
  17. Wow, TFA was INCREDIBLE by the MSO. Simply blown away by their performance and handling of the score's most demanding sequences. Their performance of The Falcon bested the edited mess in the film and received a rousing applause from the audience, as did about 10 other significant cues. Their Main Title was superb, also superior to the TFA version (IMO) and their performance of Jedi Steps and Finale was the perfect climax. Not one person left, everyone stayed seated and applauded for a solid 4 minutes after it finished. The thing that blew me away was that it almost felt like a new score actually being able to hear so many details in the score that were simply obliterated in the mix (both the score mix itself and the lackluster film mix). I heard so many trademark little, signature John Williams Star Wars-isms that are totally inaudible on soundtrack due to the overbearing focus on brass. I have to say, the orchestral balance was superb and really allowed each section of the orchestra to be heard. It was a revelatory experience hearing the score this way and only makes me lament I can't hear an isolated version of their performance ever again! More than that, it just makes me so angry about how shit the score was treated in the film mix. The score is alive and breathing when you hear it in equal measure with the sound effects and dialogue. Everything else remained perfectly clear (subtitles were unnecessary) despite the score easily being 50% louder than its equivalent treatment in the film mix. I can't stress this enough, it actually brought scenes to life in a way I've never experienced before watching this film. The conductor himself attended a pre-performance discussion of the score where they dissected the primary new themes. It was the Art of the Score podcast team and they teased an upcoming 2 part podcast for TFA (to be posted before TLJ). Was so much fun to geek out about all the little details that we're obsessed with here on JWFan. We're not alone! And the countless people humming Rey's Theme as we exited the venue will attest to that. Oh yeah, I'm really happy with the way they smoothed out the most egregious microedits throughout the score. The Falcon was definitely cleaned up, as was the Scherzo and they fixed that terrible edit in Farewell and The Trip (where the Rebel Fanfare is chopped in half). It now plays properly and they shortened a small section immediately afterwards. The mini-Rey's Theme which begins Act 2 was an excellent touch I thought, but it really made me lament the deleted Parade Grounds cue! That would be the most incredible opening cue for Act 2 had they not dialled it out. Oh well, just another questionable decision by JJ.
    2 points
  18. We can draw some conclusions from a trailer, but not all. Plenty of times I've seen a disappointing trailer, only to have the film deliver. My door is still open to this, even though there are elements I'm skeptical of.
    1 point
  19. Duel of the Fates too, even MTV music video!!!
    1 point
  20. Oh wow, this is the first time I've bothered listening to this. I think it's DEFINITELY Williams! And if it isn't, well then get this guy on the next spin-off, it's a no-brainer.
    1 point
  21. The CGI spaceships in Independence Day Resurgence lacked the feeling of weight and mass that the practical ones had in the first film. They just seemed significantly less menacing to look at, but much of that probably had to do with the film's excessively goofy tone and piss poor score. On the other hand, the dinos didn't really look any better or worse in Jurassic World than they did in the older flicks. There's only so much you can do to when blending CGI and practical together when creating on-screen make-believe living creatures. And I liked Cappuccino's score too.
    1 point
  22. Not sure why there hasn't been vids of scoring sessions and little clips of the music and I've been asking myself and others this question. There's always little teases of music coming from the Star Wars movies. As for the movie itself, Disney has so much faith in it that they asked Rian Johnson to helm episode 9 and he declined and they offered him now a new trilogy of Star Wars films that he has accepted and is developing, writing and at least directing the first one of the three. All new characters with a possibility of it being centered around the old republic, although he did say his is not adapting the game, which doesn't mean he won't center it around that era but he wants to do something totally different with new characters. Anyway, back to the music, I have no idea why nothing was ever shown, usually at least a hint of a theme or a clip here and there. Not even Rian Johnson has commented about the score... JJ was all over the score for TFA.
    1 point
  23. 1 point
  24. I like the way he weaved Rey's melody into the Resistance March there, it's most impressive.
    1 point
  25. I have it from Trump's tweets
    1 point
  26. Ah, I see gkgyver's true motivations (for a rare venture out of Hobbiton) were finally revealed again. To inform people he has sex. With a girl! Bless his little cotton sox, it's too cute
    1 point
  27. Nixon? Willie and Indy / Love Theme from TOD? That brief Elsa / Indy Love (Lust?) Theme from TLC? Jurassic Shark, maybe you should turn this into a poll? Then someone could do a kickstarter!!! Lights, Camera, Music, volumes II - V!
    1 point
  28. I actually hope it's from the film. It reminds me a lot of the Federation march from TPM, which is one of my favorite villain themes.
    1 point
  29. No it's not. Not Gordy's style at all. Also doesn't sound like the LSO. It's definitely the HSS.
    1 point
  30. I agree that the end sounds synthy. The whole thing is weird. If it was composed for the commercial, then why the need for edits? if it was composed for something else, would we not know the source? if it was composed for TLJ, why the synthiness? I suppose we are just a few days from some most if not all of this being answered. If it is not Williams, I want access to this so-called Library out there with pieces better than most OST cues of the last 20 years.
    1 point
  31. I like the opening of this: Sounds a little like a JW concert work.
    1 point
  32. Yes, please! Bring it on. He was perhaps never the greatest director of actors, but he's a brilliant filmmaker. A shame we haven't seen more of that side of him in the last few decades. Wish he did the Coppola route.
    1 point
  33. Wet recording: (alternately, the JW recording with the LSO) Dry recording: (JW with Boston Pops, which I think is slightly drier than the TFA recording) Dry recordings generally sound more detailed than wet recordings, but if you make the recording too dry then it can sound like the orchestra was recorded in the living room. So you want to retain some "wetness" in order to give some sense of space. Wet recordings can be very effective, sometimes giving a "transcendental" touch (see e.g. Karajan's 1973 Also Sprach Zarathustra recording), and work particularly well with some choral pieces. But if you make the recording too wet then it just ends up sounding like one giant mush, lacking in any musical detail.
    1 point
  34. Wet recording = my copy of The Force Awakens that I dropped in a sewer Dry recording = my replacement copy of The Force Awakens
    1 point
  35. Munich is probably Williams' darkest score, with Presumed Innocent a close second. Even so, I would snatch up an expansion of the former
    1 point
  36. I haven't found a single recording of a Morricone concert where the playing is satisfactory. Usually, his concerts sound under-rehearsed, or he's just using crappy orchestras.
    1 point
  37. There's lots of reasons. What about people who wear glasses? Hardly comfortable wearing 3D glasses over the top. Plus it dims the image and because the glasses are so uncomfortable you're more conscious of the fact you're watching a movie, rather than being immersed in the story. It's a gimmick and a distraction for something you basically forget about after 5 minutes. Then there's all the technical issues our cinema had. Every second time I saw a 3D movie there were alignment or projection issues with the left/right frames. It must have driven staff up the wall constantly fixing up the problems and dealing with people who didn't have glasses. Clearly the feedback from the majority was that 3D was more trouble than it was worth, hence reverting to 2D.
    1 point
  38. Most of the cinemas around me stopped playing 3D movies because they got sick of all the complaints.
    1 point
  39. Well it's a comic book movie.
    1 point
  40. I'm seeing Chamber of Secrets on the 6th and ET on the 9th! New Star Wars the week after and ET from LaLaLa Land for Xmas. A very Johnny December!
    1 point
  41. My gripe is that it feels like a pastiche of Horner's own Braveheart, which I know James Cameron very much enjoyed. It has the same celtic vibe (even though the story doesn't suggest it), the same lineup (uileann pipes, tin whistle, boy choir) and even a very similar-sounding melody.
    1 point
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