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  1. http://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/ <ListBucketResult xmlns="http://s3.amazonaws.com/doc/2006-03-01/"> <Name>disneystudiosawards</Name> <Prefix/> <Marker/> <MaxKeys>1000</MaxKeys> <IsTruncated>false</IsTruncated> <Contents> <Key>coco_original_score.zip</Key> <LastModified>2017-12-21T23:49:37.000Z</LastModified> <ETag>"c64d0bad138ba84f4ce188b905626b6a"</ETag> <Si
    9 points
  2. Enjoy JWfan maniacs! P.S.: Not my performance
    6 points
  3. BOOM!!! Great job, @NL197 http://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/thelastjedi_original_score.zip
    5 points
  4. How many new themes did Williams need to write for TLJ to compete with the existing themes? The First Order didn't really need a theme since Kylo and Snoke already have their own themes and are also the biggest threats of the First Order. Having two big bad guys themes (one for Kylo and one for the First Order in general) would have been way too much. Two new and most prominent characters, Rose and Holdo, were given themes to represent them and their situations. Rose's theme gets a lot of attention for a secondary character. Even Luke got a secondary theme. I guess the Porgs
    5 points
  5. 4 points
  6. Thank you so much! At it's heart, this is a fan project of my highest attempt! I just wanted to be more formal as I'm new to this forum. I've been respectfully reading it for years. It was done by me! The originator of this project. Sorry if it came off as impersonal. See above... Yes! And thanks Rick, for your willingness to support something, which on the surface, may seem weird, but if you dig deeper, is yet another example of a serious artist's work, in honor of JW. If you look here: https://jimnova.com/about/ You'll hear about my history
    4 points
  7. Pretty standard post from someone with that username. Carry on.
    4 points
  8. Tim Burden, famous radio and film music host has interviewed Mike Matessino in London, England.The first excerpt of this interview laced with John Williams music. Film Music Historian and Soundtrack Producer Mike Matessino speaks with me about the recent La La Land Records 35th Anniversary release of John Williams' E.T. The Extra Terrestrial. Discovering an exciting alternate take of a key scene and cue is one item discussed. The full-length interview is coming soon . P.S. A clip about the equally brilliant CE3K will be posted this weekend.-Ti
    3 points
  9. Made a simple OST/FYC combo playlist based on CGCJ's Analysis, and shamelessly ripped off the formatting from Jay's OST/FYC playlists for TFA and Rogue One (Sorry Jay ) 01) OST 07 The Rebellion is Reborn (Concert Arrangement) 02) FYC 01 Escape 03) OST 02 Ahch-To Island 04) OST 03 Revisiting Snoke 05) OST 04 The Supremacy 06) FYC 04 Admiral Holdo 07) FYC 05 Fun With Finn and Rose 08) OST 06 Old Friends 09) OST 08 Lesson One 10) OST 09 Canto Bight 11) FYC 09 The Master Codebreaker 12) OST 10 Who Are You? 13) OST 11
    3 points
  10. YESSSSSS "The Last Jedi" features that fucking awesome statement of Rey's theme at the start!!!
    3 points
  11. Indeed! Thank you. We simply have no idea how "inspired" Williams was and how it expressed himself. Assumptions should be treated as just that.
    3 points
  12. It's awful nice of Disney to assemble these FYC releases purely for us at JWFan. In fact, I finally worked out what FYC means! For You, Crumbs.
    3 points
  13. I felt this album needed the 3 pivotal statements of Rey's theme - the lightsaber cue, Rey's Journey, and the start of The Last Jedi. The latter 2 are on the FYC so I am plenty happy. Did not expect to get any one of the three.
    2 points
  14. I'm really glad Rey's Journey is on it. It sounds amazing. That awesome version of her theme at the start of The Last Jedi is really cool too. Just a shame the training music is missing.
    2 points
  15. Duel of the Fates, Anakin's, Darth Maul's, Qui Gon's, Jar Jar's, The Trade Federation - that's more than enough for a Williams' score. Here, there's three motifs, and maybe another one hiding somewhere but I doubt it.
    2 points
  16. It's not the lack of new themes that bothers me. It's the reliance on music that is pasted directly from old cues. consider ROTS, which used the force theme a lot but in very interesting ways IMO. Or the set pieces (ie ROTS opener) that don't introduce many new themes but are still different than previous music we've heard. Instead of just tracking in TIE fighter attack. which is not to say there is no new music in TLJ - there's just less. Some of it is good, some is not
    2 points
  17. My guess is there's a vocal minority who has a beef with the film. But Disney can easily ignore those.
    2 points
  18. Ah right! That explains that so! SAINT Stefan’s Day. Have a quality street
    2 points
  19. In this respect, the backlash is missing the point because it focuses too much on what this film does with the "mechanics", so to speak, of this fictional world, where it should be focusing on the dramatic development of the story arcs. This is why I think people who are criticising the backlash and saying that, when the dust settles this film will be considered great, are also missing the point: this film has NARRATIVE issues. Not just fandom-related ones. Its too long, it has at least one subplot which is entirely useless, and some of the characters don't feel fulfilled. Those ar
    2 points
  20. Sometimes the quiet pieces such as 'The Cave' would eventually become skipped in a future listening experience, but the quiet pieces of TLJ are still captivating. I love what Williams does in those mysterious Ren/Rey exchanges and Rey's exploration of the island.
    2 points
  21. Fuck, I can't wait for all these self-proclaimed know-it-alls, who clearly know better than Rian Johnson and John Williams on how to score a Star Wars film, to discover that Williams himself approved of and wrote all these returning ideas. Like, fuck, what would John Williams know about writing Star Wars music? The guy clearly has no fucking idea! Thank fuck we have the armchair critics on JWFan who know better.
    2 points
  22. I think the prequel scores were always regarded as one of the few redeeming qualities of the prequels. People are just bitching that Williams hasn't written DOTF MKII for the ST.
    2 points
  23. Having listened to the album a few times and seen the film once, my initial impression is...not great. There are some strong moments, but overall this probably the weakest John Williams Star Wars score in my view. The main reason is there was far too great a reliance on existing themes and cues. There are so many characters in the Star Wars universe, that the impression I got was JW (or perhaps Rian) was using every excuse he had to lean on music that had essentially been written for the previous 7 films. "Oh this scene involves Leia, let's essentially cut-and-paste from her concert theme. And
    2 points
  24. So you prefer one note being banged on endlessly and ad nauseum to actual virtuosic orchestral writing and playing. Well, they do say music is subjective, lol
    2 points
  25. I like this fanart. Reminds me of Dune.
    2 points
  26. I found The Post to be a minor entry among the Spielberg/Williams collaborations. A few great tracks (e.g. The Presses Roll and Setting the Type) but to my ears the score on the whole isn't all that exciting on album. Alas I even found most of the stately Americana of the finale a bit too familiar and thin worn to be truly emotionally resonating. By comparison the Last Jedi OST works like gangbusters despite its entirely familiar Star Wars-ness.
    2 points
  27. It may not be as tight as Raiders, or as fun as Temple, or as emotionally satisfying as Crusade, but I get such a kick out of individual parts of Crystal Skull. The appearance of the flying saucer in The Departure is probably one of my favourite Williams moments. Those bells! But more on topic: can't remember if this has been pointed out yet, but is that a little snippet of 'Luke & Leia' in between the two phrases of the Force theme in Peace and Purpose?
    2 points
  28. Escape has a totally different opening even with the main title removed. Finale is extended to 9 minutes....lots to discover to be sure.
    1 point
  29. Compare the track lengths, there are minor differences there as well. Cheers, everyone.
    1 point
  30. Bilbo

    the mstrox thread

    Stay away from my toffee pennies and you can have whichever ones you want!
    1 point
  31. Naïve Old Fart

    the mstrox thread

    Don't mind if I do, squire. Got any green triangles?
    1 point
  32. Lovejoy Chases Jack and Rose was tracked in from the film "Heaven Help Us", so the version on this album was unused. It's the same tracked music that appeared when Jack and Fabrizio are running to the ship's entrance.
    1 point
  33. True, but this score is coming from a composer that has been known to base his scores on thematic material, especially for this series. Williams is the first to take pride in the size of his catalogue of themes.
    1 point
  34. Where the hell did I say that? And even you "blame" Rian Johnson for the rehash that is a large part of this score, it doesn't change the final product. You can find creatives ways to write new thematic material to keep the score fresh. You can write new themes for existing characters that are derived from the existing themes but are nevertheless separate, signaling the character's transformation, of which this film had a lot; Finn, Poe, Luke and even Rey and Kylo could all have had new themes to co-exist with their pre-existing ones, to signal the development
    1 point
  35. Nonsense, how can one tell how involved or how much of a desire Williams has to create new themes? Aside from no new identity for the First Order, I would say that the film didn't need a hundred new themes.
    1 point
  36. I like this score! It's much more understated even than Lincoln, but there are some really nice moments that shine through. And unlike TLJ, it doesn't suffer from scatterbrainedness or an over reliance on music that's already been written.
    1 point
  37. Lord Zimmer Well your name says it all. You have no idea of great action music. Generic noise in background. That is some 50 years of making it more perfect and now it is amazing!!! And the orchestra!!!!
    1 point
  38. He was offered the new trilogy on the strength of TLJ! Kennedy obviously knows what she's doing! More of that!
    1 point
  39. These sorts of statements create expectations that are never fulfilled. Episode 8 has killed all my enthusiasm for ongoing SW films, so I am also a bit jaded. I am looking forward to the Land Race toward the end of the movie.
    1 point
  40. Millennials are an easy lot to fool,
    1 point
  41. Today I have finally published my latest blog post for The Last Jedi. If you're interested, this way. As a teaser, here's my latest (but not final) piece for TLJ: (sorry if I spam some of you on my various social media channels. I'm only advertising...)
    1 point
  42. Disney executive: “sir shouldn’t we upload the FYC tracks to website? Williams: “No, thats just what they’re expecting us to do.....”
    1 point
  43. Why don't they just release the complete score to begin with? Could you imagine the moaning Thor would do if they did?
    1 point
  44. Did you like Giacchino's Spider-man score, Mark? I love it!
    1 point
  45. It's a masterpiece and one to throw in the face of those who think Williams is only about late romantic stylings. A clear 5-star and must-have for every serious Williams fan -- even if it's a challenging listen. It's a brilliant film too (photograped by the late Vilmos Zsigmond), and to hear the score in context is quite a marvel.
    1 point
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