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BOOM!!! Great job, @NL197 http://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/thelastjedi_original_score.zip

How many new themes did Williams need to write for TLJ to compete with the existing themes? The First Order didn't really need a theme since Kylo and Snoke already have their own themes and are also the biggest threats of the First Order. Having two big bad guys themes (one for Kylo and one for the First Order in general) would have been way too much. Two new and most prominent characters, Rose and Holdo, were given themes to represent them and their situations. Rose's theme gets a lot of attention for a secondary character. Even Luke got a secondary theme. I guess the Porgs

I'm late for work.

Thank you so much! At it's heart, this is a fan project of my highest attempt! I just wanted to be more formal as I'm new to this forum. I've been respectfully reading it for years. It was done by me! The originator of this project. Sorry if it came off as impersonal. See above... Yes! And thanks Rick, for your willingness to support something, which on the surface, may seem weird, but if you dig deeper, is yet another example of a serious artist's work, in honor of JW. If you look here: https://jimnova.com/about/ You'll hear about my history

Pretty standard post from someone with that username. Carry on.

Tim Burden, famous radio and film music host has interviewed Mike Matessino in London, England.The first excerpt of this interview laced with John Williams music. Film Music Historian and Soundtrack Producer Mike Matessino speaks with me about the recent La La Land Records 35th Anniversary release of John Williams' E.T. The Extra Terrestrial. Discovering an exciting alternate take of a key scene and cue is one item discussed. The full-length interview is coming soon . P.S. A clip about the equally brilliant CE3K will be posted this weekend.-Ti

Made a simple OST/FYC combo playlist based on CGCJ's Analysis, and shamelessly ripped off the formatting from Jay's OST/FYC playlists for TFA and Rogue One (Sorry Jay ) 01) OST 07 The Rebellion is Reborn (Concert Arrangement) 02) FYC 01 Escape 03) OST 02 Ahch-To Island 04) OST 03 Revisiting Snoke 05) OST 04 The Supremacy 06) FYC 04 Admiral Holdo 07) FYC 05 Fun With Finn and Rose 08) OST 06 Old Friends 09) OST 08 Lesson One 10) OST 09 Canto Bight 11) FYC 09 The Master Codebreaker 12) OST 10 Who Are You? 13) OST 11

YESSSSSS "The Last Jedi" features that fucking awesome statement of Rey's theme at the start!!!

Indeed! Thank you. We simply have no idea how "inspired" Williams was and how it expressed himself. Assumptions should be treated as just that.

It's awful nice of Disney to assemble these FYC releases purely for us at JWFan. In fact, I finally worked out what FYC means! For You, Crumbs.

I felt this album needed the 3 pivotal statements of Rey's theme - the lightsaber cue, Rey's Journey, and the start of The Last Jedi. The latter 2 are on the FYC so I am plenty happy. Did not expect to get any one of the three.

I'm really glad Rey's Journey is on it. It sounds amazing. That awesome version of her theme at the start of The Last Jedi is really cool too. Just a shame the training music is missing.

Duel of the Fates, Anakin's, Darth Maul's, Qui Gon's, Jar Jar's, The Trade Federation - that's more than enough for a Williams' score. Here, there's three motifs, and maybe another one hiding somewhere but I doubt it.

It's not the lack of new themes that bothers me. It's the reliance on music that is pasted directly from old cues. consider ROTS, which used the force theme a lot but in very interesting ways IMO. Or the set pieces (ie ROTS opener) that don't introduce many new themes but are still different than previous music we've heard. Instead of just tracking in TIE fighter attack. which is not to say there is no new music in TLJ - there's just less. Some of it is good, some is not

My guess is there's a vocal minority who has a beef with the film. But Disney can easily ignore those.

Ah right! That explains that so! SAINT Stefan’s Day. Have a quality street

In this respect, the backlash is missing the point because it focuses too much on what this film does with the "mechanics", so to speak, of this fictional world, where it should be focusing on the dramatic development of the story arcs. This is why I think people who are criticising the backlash and saying that, when the dust settles this film will be considered great, are also missing the point: this film has NARRATIVE issues. Not just fandom-related ones. Its too long, it has at least one subplot which is entirely useless, and some of the characters don't feel fulfilled. Those ar

Sometimes the quiet pieces such as 'The Cave' would eventually become skipped in a future listening experience, but the quiet pieces of TLJ are still captivating. I love what Williams does in those mysterious Ren/Rey exchanges and Rey's exploration of the island.

Fuck, I can't wait for all these self-proclaimed know-it-alls, who clearly know better than Rian Johnson and John Williams on how to score a Star Wars film, to discover that Williams himself approved of and wrote all these returning ideas. Like, fuck, what would John Williams know about writing Star Wars music? The guy clearly has no fucking idea! Thank fuck we have the armchair critics on JWFan who know better.

I think the prequel scores were always regarded as one of the few redeeming qualities of the prequels. People are just bitching that Williams hasn't written DOTF MKII for the ST.

Having listened to the album a few times and seen the film once, my initial impression is...not great. There are some strong moments, but overall this probably the weakest John Williams Star Wars score in my view. The main reason is there was far too great a reliance on existing themes and cues. There are so many characters in the Star Wars universe, that the impression I got was JW (or perhaps Rian) was using every excuse he had to lean on music that had essentially been written for the previous 7 films. "Oh this scene involves Leia, let's essentially cut-and-paste from her concert theme. And

No.

So you prefer one note being banged on endlessly and ad nauseum to actual virtuosic orchestral writing and playing. Well, they do say music is subjective, lol

I like this fanart. Reminds me of Dune.

I found The Post to be a minor entry among the Spielberg/Williams collaborations. A few great tracks (e.g. The Presses Roll and Setting the Type) but to my ears the score on the whole isn't all that exciting on album. Alas I even found most of the stately Americana of the finale a bit too familiar and thin worn to be truly emotionally resonating. By comparison the Last Jedi OST works like gangbusters despite its entirely familiar Star Wars-ness.

It may not be as tight as Raiders, or as fun as Temple, or as emotionally satisfying as Crusade, but I get such a kick out of individual parts of Crystal Skull. The appearance of the flying saucer in The Departure is probably one of my favourite Williams moments. Those bells! But more on topic: can't remember if this has been pointed out yet, but is that a little snippet of 'Luke & Leia' in between the two phrases of the Force theme in Peace and Purpose?

It's a Christmas miracle!

Big statement of Poe's Theme in "Escape". Brilliant!

Escape has a totally different opening even with the main title removed. Finale is extended to 9 minutes....lots to discover to be sure.

FFS, and TLJ isn't original?

Everytime a track from the last two scores is uploaded on YouTube, there's that obnoxious comment that questions why there's no Duel of the Fates or how nothing compared to it.

Its one that is based on the composer's self proclaimed (and very vocally so) desire to base each new score in the series predominantly on new thematic material, which - for the first time - doesn't apply to this score.

Here's to wishing a very happy birthday to both @Andreas and @JohnSolo. Hope you guys both have terrific days!

Would love to watch JW composing music for one of those big action sequences

Lord Zimmer: I don't think you're allowed to have an opinion here other than that Williams can do no wrong and every score of his is genius.

Lord Zimmer Well your name says it all. You have no idea of great action music. Generic noise in background. That is some 50 years of making it more perfect and now it is amazing!!! And the orchestra!!!!

Same.

They used to just be cool flicks we'd watch on tape every so often. Now they're revered in this creepy cult-like manner.

The Return of the Jedi script is very flawed. It is the least of the three but it's still an entertaining close to the original film saga before the fan fic films take over. I don't let its flaws ruin my day.

Thanks for saying this KM. I come here less and less these days because the atmosphere can be downright toxic sometimes. It's usually the same few posters who seem to enjoy putting others down out of what seems like sheer boredom. I used to come online to escape the anxieties of life but now it's become the source of them. I find it easier to just leave.

Disney executive: “sir shouldn’t we upload the FYC tracks to website? Williams: “No, thats just what they’re expecting us to do.....”

I don't think the same. Just look at The Phantom Menace. It was, let's say, not that great, but the soundtrack made it 10 times better. Sometimes a soundtrack is the only thing that makes a movie watchable (at least for me).

I think it's more just the desire to assemble a more complete version of the score right off the bat, before becoming accustomed to the incomplete OST. I don't think I've ever listened to the TFA FYC in isolation, just mined it for music to expand the OST with.

It's a masterpiece and one to throw in the face of those who think Williams is only about late romantic stylings. A clear 5-star and must-have for every serious Williams fan -- even if it's a challenging listen. It's a brilliant film too (photograped by the late Vilmos Zsigmond), and to hear the score in context is quite a marvel.