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  1. Return of the Jedi really rounded out the operatic feel of the entire trilogy score through its orchestration of the established themes, particularly Vader's theme. Perhaps the best musical moment of the entire original trilogy was the final lightsaber battle between Luke and Vader. It has the kind of music that no other composer could ever create for such an iconic moment. I talked about it in my "Return of the Jedi" episode of "The Baton: A John Williams Musical Journey." Click play below and you can hear my analysis of that lightsaber battle beginning at the 28:37 mark.
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  2. Not if you don't eat your meat it isn't.
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  3. here is what Conrad Pope posted on Nov 24th, 2019: Conrad Pope:ARRANGING/ADAPTING: What’s the Difference? What are the challenges?John Williams asked me to do an arrangement of Princess Leia’s Theme for Anne-Sophie Mutter. When “god” asks you to do something- no matter how inadequate you feel to the task- it is impossible to say no—particularly when the performer is a “goddess” whose music making has inspired you all your life. This summer at the HOLLYWOOD MUSIC WORKSHOP I shall share the process that resulted in this recording. What is an arrangement? What is an ada
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  4. The Spark scene was clearly shot and edited to allow JW's music to carry the load. And what a highlight that was
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  5. Fallen Kingdom isn’t brilliant but it isn’t one of the worst films of all time. That’s just hyperbole.
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  7. Yeah somewhere I read that the script had them bring captured velociraptors overboard who then escape, kill everyone then get swept off by waves, but no indication that any of that was actually shot. As it is, it's implied the T-Rex broke out of that compartment, ate everyone in places where it wouldn't even fit, and locked itself back in. Spielberg really gave no shits with this one. Even if he was just thinking of how cool the hand on the wheel (and no person attached) shot would be, they could have watched back security camera footage for 10 seconds and 2 VFX shots afterwards or something.
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  8. Who are you talking to, Edmilson?
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  9. If you look at my Google Doc you can see where all the music recorded that isn't on the OST goes https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QtG5OuCLOrQj4iYNUEBgIU81gH2q2USCDhqLQwzHLKY/edit?usp=drivesdk
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  10. Rey's Training is another one, especially the nostalgic string theme near the beginning when Leia reassures Rey.
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  11. Those lush, rising strings after Kylo finds out Luke isn't actually there were so impactful that day in 2017 that I was reminded of Revenge of the Sith, which packed a major wallop in theatres. I really like when Williams does scene-specific scoring. I agree with you about that piano moment in Rise though, it makes a good argument.
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  12. I don't understand where all this discussion about Johnson not being interested in Williams is coming from. He described the scoring process with Williams as "the highlight of highlights" of making a Star Wars film. He respected the music when finishing the film and cited unheard music as one of the best features of some of the deleted scenes and he presented us with an isolated score - a first for Star Wars! I think it's a case of actions speaking louder than words. RJ seems fairly quiet and reserved generally but look at how the music was treated. Abrams gushes to an
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  13. Now that we have established that the conductor was bad, the orchestra was bad, and the soloist was bad, the only thing that has not yet been criticized are the hall acoustics.
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  14. Any news from someone who succeed in recording the streaming?
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  16. Well, that's a start! Oh God, EDM is a vast a category as 'film music', really. Personally, I gravitate towards 90s house and trance, as well as psytrance/goa. Some favourites include Paul Oakenfold, Max Graham, DJ Tiesto, Paul van Dyk, Juno Reactor, Infected Mushroom, Shpongle (although they also do a lot of ambient), Orbital, Underworld and on and on and on.
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  17. Naïve Old Fart

    Coronavirus

    Are they face masks, or thongs?
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  18. Electronic Dance Music.
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  20. The penultimate ep was good! Btw the 4k UHD stream8ng looks amazing!
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  21. Sorry. I forgot that part😔
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  22. This is new and official from the doll merch. I've never known a movie to have so many banners leading up to release.
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  23. It's go time baby!!! I'm imagining it right now...
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  24. Edmilson

    Video Game Thread II

    Sorry , I haven't put anyone on the ignore list, it's just that sometimes I go straight to the last post without reading the last few posts on a thread.
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  25. I agree, although it's not even that much about the new arrangement (which is pretty much straightforwardly taken from the original version, and apparently it's not even clear how much of it Williams did himself), but the interpretation is probably the best I know. The climax is magnificent. It did some getting used to, but once I was, the original version did seem a bit unenergetic in comparison.
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  26. According to Wookieepedia, the moons of Tatooine are Ghomrassen, Guermessa, and Chenini (the first two are in the opening shot of ANH, all three appear in the night shots in AOTC). As for Endor, the small red moon has never been named. I found some threads of people arguing what it could be, most people agreeing it probably wasn't the planet Endor.
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  27. I know it might sound like a sacrilege but I think the Mutter version of Princess Leia's theme might be actually better than the original. Williams took a perfect piece and somehow made it even better. It's just beautifully realised and performed. And her version of Rey's theme is better too. As for the Vienna concert, I am patiently waiting for the copies (one for me, one for my mum) to arrive so I can watch/listen for the first time. Delayed or not, I'm happy to wait. Karol
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  28. Indeed. I don't know how that wasn't released. But I have to say I prefer the part while she's going through the course. So epic, one of the best versions of Rey's theme IMO, alongside this one:
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  29. There are sublime moments in every John Williams score and Rise is no exception. Although, I agree that Jedi has many, many more of them. The cue The Last Jedi is easily the best cue of the entire sequel trilogy, if it isn't Holdo's Resolve.
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  30. I got chills when I first heard "We Go Together" in the theaters. Some other great in-movie moments include the non-edited parts of Approaching the Throne, the desert shot of the Knights of Ren, "Parents," "Rey and Ben Team Up," and all other statements of the "We Go Together" theme
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  31. Interesting points. He starts out idealizing his father, then is shocked out of that ideal, but in the end they reconcile. Kind of an extreme version of what many young people go through in relation to their parents. Even though I don't believe the twist was ever planned, the whole thing comes together better than I've given it credit for.
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  32. You try too hard to make jokes on this forum. Your overall success rate of making people laugh would improve if you posted less often and didn't spread your comedy juice so thinly.
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  33. Luke's reason for going with Ben is literally "I want to be a Jedi, like my father before me." His whole impetus is to follow in daddy's footsteps. He asks his uncle about him, Ben about him gets his father's lightsaber, etc. I disagree.
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  34. I would almost completely agree with this... if Luke's family wasn't a major part of A New Hope i.e. "becoming a Jedi, like your father before you." So the correct word may not be inherent (I can't think of a proper word at this moment to replace it that would mean 'there from the very beginning') but it's damn close to being so. Ben is clearly a mentor, father figure that he loses and gains, etc. Let's not get it twisted, this is a family saga.
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  35. I just hoped it would be her because I had enjoyed hearing her speak during that 2018 RAH concert. Also forgot to mention I really loved all the questions you asked her. Every time I wanted you to ask something, you did exactly that. Great interview. EDIT: Listening to Phanton Menace now. Totally agree that the emperor's theme in the opening cues is an incredibly stupid choice, but never ever realised it was hidden in the celebration fanfare.
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  36. So, my theory: this may well have been the best take. There’s photos from the final session that show alcohol was flowing freely in celebration. I wouldn’t be surprised if that started at the customary break halfway through the session, and as a former professional percussionist, let’s just say there’s a number of us who can put away an impressive amount in a short time, especially when it’s free…
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  37. Johnson wouldn't ordinarily hire Williams a) because he's loyal to Nathan Johnson and their partnership seems happy and fruitful, and b) Williams does not generally make himself available, anyway. The whole spotting session thing, I think has been blown out of proportion. Johnson and Williams would have talked about the film, thematic material, character arcs, dramatic beats of each scene while they were working. I'm not really convinced that Johnson never heard any music until recording. I think Williams must have played him stuff on piano, themes and maybe some cues but obviously
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  38. I maintain that other than old Spielberg, Rian Johnson is probably the most proven Williams-friendly high profile director right now. The score to Knives Out was orchestral in the Batman / The Shadow vein.
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  39. To each their own. I actually think the prequel scores have better overall album arrangements and presentations than the OT. Same with the sequel scores. Not saying the scores are better, just better represented on album. Talking about the original albums here. Of the original trilogy, I like the original Star Wars album the best with ROTJ almost winning. Attack of the Clones has the best album presentation of the Prequel trilogy, even though Phantom is my favorite. And The Last Jedi easily wins the best ST album, and in fact, prepare yourself, I think it is the best OST Star Wars
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  40. Yeah it's really powerful how the percussion is constantly off-tempo, trying to catch up, at one point gives up completely and just fucks around waiting for an entry point to restart on. Completely baffling how JW picked this take. Why even have it, it's a completely unnecessary bit of nostalgiapandering making an already too messy credits piece all the more disjointed.
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  41. AOTC is filled with great music. Also lack of action music doesn't equal boring. Some of my favorite material from AOTC is the quieter stuff. AOTC does have a ton of action music though, even though only a portion of it appears on the album.
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  42. RETURN OF THE JEDI underrated? Not by me. Over the years, it's crept up to become my favourite Star Wars score. I've posted before, and I'll post, again: everything from BROTHER/SISTER, FATHER/SON onwards, is sublime.
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  43. TPM barely has any action music? WTF? AotC is boring? WTF? @mxsch It sounds muffled and quiet.
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  44. People don't like the Endor music? News to me.
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  45. I can't praise ROTJ enough, it's one of my all time favorites, but I would never praise at the expense of TPM, which I also consider to be a masterpiece
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  46. who cares

    GAME OF THRONES

    So is Rowan Atkinson. I never saw him pull off authority with conviction.
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  47. Williams said "the scoring is on pause". It appears he intends to keep going.
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  48. And right now he's working on a "fun" new fanfare for the Vienna Philharmonic Ball to replace the one Richard Strauss wrote in 1924! No current scoring projects though. It's wonderful to hear him speak. He seems to have grown even more eloquent and poetic with advanced age!
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