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This is how it usually happens. Scores for major projects touch a lot of hands. In some cases the teams include interns and temporary staff who are very qualified but not part of a regular team. The pros keep their mouths shut but in some cases they need help too. The extended teams need access to the very material because if there is one orchestrator credited, there is probably a team working with that orchestrator. The same is true of the sound mixer or music editor especially on the biggest budget projects where the amount of the material can be unpredictable. Buried within the teams, we are all fans. No one does this because it's just a job. there are a million easier "jobs" to do that pay more. You do this because you are obsessive and passionate about it. You are a fan. The same goes with the sound editor, mixer, recording engineer, etc. All of them are on NDA (Non Disclosure Agreements). The workload is intense and it's hard to describe how much it is but it necessitates last minute hires who might not have the discipline to handle the material because they consider themselves already short term. For example, you could get access to the server containing every cue because the team includes multiple people, not all of whom are full time employees...the costs of that sort of staff are cost prohibitive. For example, if you are an orchestrator for a major film or do score prep (a completely different role in major projects), sometimes you might find yourself asked to come in at the last second for a studio session tomorrow at 9am. You are called at noon the day before but the material hasn't been signed off till midnight (the night before the 9am recording session). At this point, a desperate plea can go out to others who are qualified but not as invested in the project or its content. From the hiring person's point of view, there is no way to make the absolutely last second 7am deadline to drive the final scores to the studio for the 8am set up before the 9am downbeat on time! The bottom line, deadlines become desperate, some others get enlisted who might have access to content they have no business having access to. In some projects, they are very well managed and this doesn't happen for many years but after years, you still get this scenario popping up somewhere, somehow. I've been on projects where I had access to material that people begged for swearing if they got it, they would never pass it on. It only takes one to say ok, just swear not to pass it on any further...which they tell the next guy...and it has leaked. Watermarking can slow this down but there is usually the guy/gal who needs to do the watermark and at a point, they too are behind and need a hired hand to help so the same process occurs, just a little slower.

No, no, no... You don't quite understand what Mattris is saying here. You might want to drink a couple of pints before reading the rest... You see...he believes Disney INTENTIONALLY made the sequel trilogy in a way that would seemingly frustrate fans, only for Episode X to (1) be that much more surprising and (2) payoff episodes 7-9 in such a way that even the people who are frustrated by them would retroactivelly see the greatness of them. He's said it a couple of times in this thread. It was funny every time.

@Demodex, it seems you didn't read my last post of the previous page, so here it is again: The existence of an (already-made) Episode X - to begin another trilogy - isn't what will be the most shocking. It won't even be the fact that Emperor Palpatine's Sith spirit survived and passed into Rey's body, as he literally warned would happen if she killed him. Remember, he also commanded Luke Skywalker, "Strike me down with all of your hatred, and your journey toward the dark side will be complete!" No, the main shock will be that the Star Wars fandom didn't understand the Saga on a fundamental level and were played as fools for decades. This film shouldn't exist. A traditional marketing campaign will completely ruin the surprise. 'The fan base got pissed off' because they didn't understand what was happening in these films... all the way back to the original Star Wars. Unbeknownst to the masses, the Sequel Trilogy was the logical progression of the Saga. Yes, I know of some big surprises, many of which I already posted here in no uncertain language. But clearly, you weren't paying attention and are too lazy to go back and read. (In that way, you are much like the fandom with the novelizations and canon material.) Based on your posts, I have come to only one conclusion that makes sense. You are hopeless.

UPDATE!! I was able to locate track 26 for The Midnight Sky on the Netflix site, even though it still isn't listed. I have added in the link to the MP3 file and corrected the listing to the following: Midnight Sky, The (Alexandre Desplat) [31 cues, 1:16:14]

Going to join this now as "AdventureSailor".

Little thing I did with the help of a few friends

@Mattris What are you going to do if Episode X is never revealed and/or never comes out? Also, if you want people to believe you, how is insulting them going to get them on your side? Let’s say your belief is genuine, you need to recognise that the skeptics are hung up on some fairly significant things that you haven’t adequately addressed. If you could address these in a non-dismissive way then people would be more convinced Even when huge companies are trying to be secretive, like Disney during the production of any of the Star Wars movies, things leak. It’s the nature of our connected world. That you don’t have any direct proof (meaning they’re not patterns you’ve extrapolated from disparate pieces of evidence), strongly points to this movie not existing. Even if you were privy to information others weren’t, one needs to actually corroborate that with proof as well. Anyone can go on the Internet and claim anything, think about all those bogus leaks that show up before any big release be it film or movie. It is an extraordinarily bad money-making tactic to make three extremely costly movies suck on purpose so they would appreciate a hidden fourth extremely costly movie. That doesn’t add up mathematically at all, not to mention that you factor in the audience being alienated by the first three movies that even if one was suddenly good - they probably wouldn’t care anymore. A lot of people’s investment in the franchise is pretty much dead at this point because of the Sequel Trilogy, and I doubt a hidden movie with characters and a world they don’t care about would make a difference.

Never got to meet JW but have seen him conduct three times Got an autograph from Howard Shore which I keep in my wallet. I felt a little bad about it because I was part of a big crowd swarming him after a Q&A, he’s so old and quiet! Seemed overwhelmed with the attention even though I know it wasn’t his first rodeo. I’m happy that I briefly got to say thanks for everything. Also Hummie Mann gave a guest lecture the year I studied music composition, got to talk to him a bit about the loneliness of the composer lifestyle which I was struggling with.

Just John Williams and Michael Giacchino. Shook John Williams hand and thanked him for coming to Texas and probably some other silly fanboy stuff. He is as generous and humble as everyone says. Chatted with Michael Giacchino after a concert in Dallas. Talked about his Star Trek (2009) score, at the time he told me JJ Abrams had already told him he was scoring Into Darkness and it would be official when he returned to LA.

@Demodex, I already told you where to look... and when I will further elaborate. Calm down, read what I already posted, and use your brain. You might just get somewhere. And even if I could trust everyone here not to spoil things for those outside of this thread... lazy, rude people like you are the very reason I choose not to continue presenting my findings on a silver platter.

Gourgeous romantic score! Everyone who likes Horner, Portman, Fenton, etc., should check it out.

So that finally the big shocking reveal? That there's already an Episode X filmed? If you think Disney is going to release a Star Wars movie without marketing you are a complete whack job. If you think Disney intentionally made movies to piss off the fan base, you are insane. If you know of some big surprise that you aren't telling us then you are trolling. Based on your posts I have come to only one conclusion that makes sense. You are Mike Zeroh.

I feel the same exact way, except instead of Star Wars it’s Subway subs. One of these days those motherfuckers are gonna blow our minds, and then every mediocre Italian BMT on rubbery bread will have been worth it.

I remember some people thinking Alfonso Cuaron was gonna make Harry Potter sexual because he’d just done Y Tu Mama Tambien.

I think Episode X's principal photography wrapped in 2019. The film was made back-to-back with trIXie (Episode IX's shooting title). Yes, I think John Williams will score X, for one reason, because of Daisy Ridley's involvement. Remember that massive amount (90+ minutes) of music we were told about that was composed for IX but went unused? I don't think it was simply dropped... or that it was even composed for IX.

I very much wish this number were higher, but only one, and for me it's still a good one - Michael Giacchino. Went to a double feature of Star Trek and Into Darkness Live in Houston. Since (I believe) it was the U.S. premiere, Giacchino was there both nights, did a little Q&A and a meet and greet. So I got a signed poster and a photo with him, chatted with him briefly as well. Cool experience! I'd love to get a chance to meet Williams, but I can't imagine when that would be possible at this point. There's plenty others I'd love to meet as well.

Oh gosh, a lot, especially if it includes interviews, meets AND concerts. I should probably do a tally at some point, although it will inevitably come off as a bit '"show-offy" with all the namedropping. I might chime in later, though.

Yep, except for the 1977 original, every other main title recording for the Star Wars films uses the published concert versions. ESB, ROTJ, and TPM used the original 1977 suite published by Fox Fanfare Music, Inc., while the sequel trilogy used the Hal Leonard suite published in the 1990s. I'm not aware of any actual differences between those two versions apart from just the actual typesetting. The live-to-projection version sort-of restores the scalar timpani passage, though slightly modified: That version restores some of the instrumentation that was reduced for the published suite, but retains other changes. For example, the timpani still have their opening grace notes and the two added cymbal crashes just before the B-theme are still present.

@thx99Thanks for all your work. Really appreciate your efforts.

He joked about about Carter’s box office during the concert. Tim Simonec conducted the first half of the concert and Giacchino conducted the rest after intermission.

I asked two autographs in my life, and it was from my childhood hero, Patof. Patof my best Memory Jacques Desrosiers That last one is from 1995, one year before Jacques Desrosiers died of a bone and lung cancer.

That's awesome dude. I also had a chance to briefly chat with Giacchino when he was in London to do Star Trek/Star Trek Into Darkness. He was really friendly and happy to chat to anyone. I remember asking him to sign my booklets for Super 8 and John Carter. Told him that I enjoyed the latter and it's a shame the film didn't do better. He said he really liked working on that one or something like that. Karol

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John Williams - and primarily the Indy theme - has been all over this weekend and last weekend's biathlon events in Oberhof. They play it just before the skiers are about to enter the shooting range (and easier to hear now that there is no audience noise).

No, but evidently I haven't ordered a 2-CD set from them since their last update last January. Currently $25 for more than one disc.

The upcoming Black Sunday bluray will include a bonus interview on John WIlliams' score: https://viavision.com.au/shop/black-sunday-1977

Right at the end of the girl in the red coat sequence, she gets taken out by a velociraptor.

To answering your questions, @DarthDementous: 1. No, Episode X reshoots aren't needed because the film wrapped over a year ago. The 'core members of the main cast who are publicly done with Star Wars' either [1] won't be coming back because their character arcs will be completed in X... or [2] They're just putting on an act to keep you distracted. 2. I don't expect any "leaked images" from X to get out before the film's release. (The surprise factor here is of the utmost importance.) 3. On multiple occasions, Episode IX was billed as "an end" to the Saga - not "the end". The backlash towards the Sequel Trilogy was expected - if not desired - so the unexpected continuation of the Saga would be that much more shocking. I suspect there will be no "marketing train" until after the film is released, not that it will really need to be marketed. 4. I'm aware of no other reports. But Episode IX's shoot was especially long, with at least two re-shooting sessions. Some people thought that IX was being 'made twice' because Lucasfilm didn't know what they were doing. All things considered, I suspect that two films were made. (How trIXie of them.) One would think that "it wouldn’t be hard to infer that in lieu of a proper antagonist, that Disney wouldn’t try to bring back the Emperor to ‘complete’ the saga". But in reality, very few expected it... even with a swath of clues that foreshadowed his inevitable return, including the Dark Empire series from the EU, in which Emperor Palpatine was revealed to have survived 'the fall' by transferring his spirit into a cloned body... and intended to live forever through the act of 'essence transfer' into subsequent vessels. Let me be clear. I'm not simply "guessing based off the information everyone else was already privy too." To formulate my theories, I utilized sources that everyone has access to: the films, novelizations, and other official canon material. Within these volumes are consistent, substantive excerpts that 'corroborate' my assessment of the Saga and the surrounding controversy. But for 'the truth' to be brought into focus, one must pay close attention and see things from a certain point of view. In addition to what I've deduced using the films and canon, the (seemingly endless barrage of) unorthodox behavior by Lucasfilm employees only bolsters my conclusion that they intended to keep their audience on the far side of the galaxy so as not to interfere with their real plans. (This is right out of the Sith-designed "effective Jedi trap".) Apart from all of this, is there any significant difference between the conclusion of Episode VI and Episode IX? I perceive none. In a conversation between Finn and Poe in The Rise of Skywalker novelization, this reality was noted: "General Leia thought they'd destroyed the Emperor at the Battle of Endor," Poe said. "But he came back. More powerful than ever." "You think he might come back again," Finn said. "Maybe," Poe said, staring off in Zorii's direction. Of course Poe would worry about that. He was acting general now, and like any good general he was anticipating what fight still lay ahead. "Or some other evil will rise. Evil always rises." "Naw," said Finn. "Not for a long time, anyway." Poe gave him a questioning look.

for anyone following at home the Tuba player is lost for about 30 seconds surrounding the 2:00 mark of ET

My new 50" 4K HDR Vizio TV playing the latest 4K UHD remaster of Batman

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey Flawed, but still pretty solid. Easily the best of these Hobbit movies. And I love the Misty Mountains theme, I know Shore didn't wrote it but he weaves it into the scores in a really satisfying way. About that other thread, this movie is easily better than all prequels (and most Sequels too). It's well acted, well directed and visually interesting, unlike those poor acted Star Wars movies.

that's a stupid analogy. the proper analogy would have been if spielberg made jurassic park in a found footage style/deviated from regular directorial style.

Yeah, I remember thinking when Spielberg was making Schindler's List after Jurassic Park, like, shit, I hope he doesn't put dinosaurs in it.

I agree.

I've been meaning to get several of these and so far haven't, because the expensive shipping plus taxes are an expensive combination. But there's just no way around getting this one.

"Sorry, Jonathan Ross no longer work here." i never got hooked by this movie. I love Summer Nights, but that's all.

The whole movie, from the music, design, performances, visual effects, cinematography, costume design, etc., is at the service of an unified vision, a concept. It's like a fever dream, it is completely its own thing. For me it remains, easily, the greatest Dracula movie ever made. It is not narratively perfect, but it pretty much excels in everything else

'97 SE for ANH Imperial Audiophile Edition for ESB Vosk's leaked ROTJ sessions Easy

You can make a decent backstory with the main story points...not all 100% details needed be canon. For the casual moviegoer it would be the same as with the sequel trilogy: there is a 20-30 year gap between trilogies and dont have a clue how the galaxy arrived to that point. I am a star wars fan and dont have a clue...and im not going to read any new books, so i will never know. Im sorry but they alienated a third or a fourth of the fanbase with the legends label, and made mediocre films. The legends trilogy could have been equally mediocre but would have had more supporters i think. Bad bussiness decission, imho.

NEW SCORE/SONG AVAILABLE: Netflix Midnight Sky, The (Alexandre Desplat) [30 cues, 1:14:01] [NOTE: There is no track "26" currently on the site.] Netflix (series) Queen's Gambit, The [Song - "I Can't Remember Love" (Anna Hauss & Robert Wienroder), 3:17] [NOTE: See initial post above for links to MP3s, M4As & WAV ("Meteorites" from The Midnight Sky).]

I'd like to see Rachel Portman scoring a super-hero movie someday.

Same.

Here's the info!! Album Selections “Sound the Bells” The Cowboys Overture Theme from JFK Excerpts from Far and Away Olympic Fanfare and Theme Escapades for Alto Saxophone and Orchestra from Catch Me If You Can Theme from Schindler’s List Raiders March from Raiders of the Lost Ark “Adventures on Earth” from E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial “Nimbus 2000” from Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone Main Title from Star Wars “The Mission Theme” from NBC News The National Anthem, “The Star-Spangled Banner” March from Superman Excerpts from Close Encounters of the Third Kind Suite from The Reivers March from 1941 Liberty Fanfare “Out to Sea/The Shark Cage Fugue” from Jaws “The Adventures of Mutt” from Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull “Harry’s Wondrous World” from Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone Theme from The Sugarland Express Tribute to George Lucas and Steven Spielberg “The Tale of Viktor Navorski” from The Terminal The Imperial March from Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back BONUS: “For ‘The President’s Own’” Download complete album and liner notes: https://www.marineband.marines.mil/Portals/175/Docs/Audio/Educational_Series/john_williams/JohnWilliamsUSMB.zip PDF: https://spark.adobe.com/page/MtAOvmGmJ8YRQ/ Listen on YouTube (playlist): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8-TumZW3Qg&list=PLA7no0L9zTk5-Mvyc5fBA8M1FLVg9ZABZ

As everyday shows, we sadly live in a world where people take opinions as facts, and facts as opinion.

You try too hard to make jokes on this forum. Your overall success rate of making people laugh would improve if you posted less often and didn't spread your comedy juice so thinly.

Couldn't resist playing that exquisite piano solo from the last cue on the horn

Hi! For my own use, I've developed a software to generate punches and streamers, because I've found no other easy-to-use punches and streamers generator for Windows. It works by opening an avi video file, defining key-points (streamer & punch, flutters or visual clix). It is possible to add timecodes, chronometers, free texts, even subtitles, create templates, create export templates, etc. Then, you can begin the rendering process and you get an avi file with all the markings you've defined. I don't know if this synchronization method is used much nowadays, and I don't know if it can be of any use to other composers, but since the software works pretty well for me, maybe some of you will be interested. It is NOT intended to replace professional softwares for this task (in particular because rendering is needed), but may be useful for younger composers or when the studio have not the proper hardware/software available to create punches and streamers. For those interested, I can give a link to the installer (English) and a (free) license key. (PM me, because I have no download server and the link changes when I update or fix bugs)