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  1. Right, that's the insert 9M85A “Luke Looks”. The film and album use a different insert, 9M85A New “Rey Looks”, as heard in 'Peace and Purpose'. They both replace the same section of 9M85 “Finale Part I”, so there should be at least three recorded versions of Luke’s death. We don’t know whether 9M85 Alt Insert was actually recorded yet, which is the insert that uses Luke’s theme, scored wistfully for flute and clarinet. The recording status is also uncertain for 9M85B and 9M85C. 9M85B “Between Luke and the March”, which is actually an insert with an insert, replacing a few bars of 9M85A, and including (as @Falstaftmentioned above) a possible reference to the theme from 'Holdo's Resolve'. 9M85C “Island to March” provides a different possible transition from 9M85A back into the Kylo's theme "march". Ok, everyone got all that? There will be a quiz! 😃
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  3. knew we were talking about this here, and just saw this. Can’t think of a better place to post it.
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  4. Okay I've never seen that one before. Howard the Duck can now definitly be considered as a perfect picture. Well it surely sound good.
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  5. The truth is Danny Elfman is dead and has been replaced by an inferior clone who composes shit.
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  6. Wait, this cut is 4 hours?! That sounds like abject torture
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  7. We need a complete release handled by Mike M. with all these alternates.
    3 points
  8. I know Disney is ham-fisted in general and hamstrung by its own Death Star II-like size, but this is the most commercially friendly potential expansion property in the history of film music. It has to happen, and my money is on sooner rather than later, given how the focus of Star Wars is atomizing thanks to streaming services and publishing initiatives. In the days of old Lucasfilm, I had the sense (rightly or wrongly, as a child) that every Star Wars project was another tendril of the story told in the original trilogy, traceable along the axis of some character who appeared in those films. Now, it seems the plan is to make Star Wars an entertainment medium unto itself, containing stories in multiple sub-genres to reach as galactically large an audience as possible, many of whom may not be remotely interested in what's going on in other branches of the tree. Right now, though, and for maybe the next year or so, the focus is still comparatively narrow (especially so thanks to Luke's cameo on The Mandalorian). Now is the time for a massive Skywalker saga expansion, before the definition of Star Wars becomes any more diffuse. A saga soundtrack release would still come across as a comprehensive Star Wars music box right now, whereas it won't be long before little paragraphs would start getting added to its media coverage (and there would be media coverage), saying things like, "While it doesn't include any of Ludwig Göransson's sick beats from The Mandalorian, and Ahsoka's theme is nowhere to be found, it's a fascinating look at the origins of Star Wars music..." Do it, Disney!
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  9. Bilbo's autoportrait (he's not very talented).
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  11. Adding an 11th element for Bilbo Spitfires
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  12. I'm a much bigger fan of Giacchino's Rogue One than most on here (and Air Force One is also terrific), but TFA is head and shoulders above them. Not even close. Indeed, TFA might well be my all-time favorite film score.
    2 points
  13. You like the duelling banjos scene so much?
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  14. Romeo and Juliet is available from Quartet Records. 2019 remastered reissue. It's a beautiful score. Screen Archives still has it listed as available. I was able to get it from them last July, so hopefully it's still in stock and not an outdated listing. (I find it best to email them before ordering to check on in-stock status. Otherwise your order could be on hold for a long time.) It's also available on Amazon, but not for retail. And a few scattered listings on ebay. https://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/39427/ROMEO-&-JULIET-ROMEO-AND-JULIET/
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  15. I imagine watching the 4 hours of this movie will be even worse for those who already watched Whedon's version of the movie and therefore know how the story plays out and all the major beats.
    2 points
  16. Yes, sheet music, but it's kind of mind blowing that this mockup gives you the only chance to actually hear it if it was never recorded.
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  17. The Silence of the Lambs is perfect.
    2 points
  18. I just presumed MV is too mean to shell out for a new clamshell.
    2 points
  19. This one is essential: https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005UN9G/jwfancom-20 I'm not a huge fan of Call of the Champions (though that's at least partly because of the horrible recording by Murphy; the unreleased live versions by the Pops sound much better), but American Journey itself has become one of most played Williams scores in recent years, and the rest of the album is very good as well.
    2 points
  20. Not only Luke's Theme in one version of the TLJ Finale (9M85 Alt Insert), but a quite different sounding set of variants of the Force Theme (9M85 and 9M85A), a few hints of Jedi Steps here and there, even one version of Luke's death that directly recalls the Desperation motif, aka Holdo's Sacrifice (9m85B). Not clear what of these various alternates were actually recorded. Time, hopefully, will tell.
    2 points
  21. Isn't it great that every human on earth likes different things? If we all liked and disliked the same things, what a boring world we'd live in!
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  22. Two words: temp track. Hollywood producers and directors want their scores to match the temp as perfectly as possible. So, if they can't get Zimmer himself, they'll use one of his apprentices, like Balfe or Junkie. It's either that or they have excellent agents.
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  23. And compared to the version on the boxset? So different or not? BTW, all the film score RCA Red Seal original releases here: https://www.discogs.com/search/?sort=year%2Casc&type=release&title=Film+Score&label=RCA+Red+seal You'll need this compilation too, as it features 6 previously unreleased selections... Charles Gerhardt, National Philharmonic Orchestra ‎– Spectacular World Of Classic Film Scores
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  25. Alien, followed by Alien³, followed by Aliens. Definitely for the scores, and while the 2nd/3rd place ranking for the films is not so clear cut for me these days, it could go either way, and the flawed but stunning Fincher film needs more love. I lied on the last question, because I've seen Prometheus, but only once, and none of the others, so I really have no opinion there. I really do want to watch it again, and its sequel, but I'm still waiting for a good Blu-ray deal.
    1 point
  26. The OST is all you need. And if you look for an alternative way of listeningt to it, use the two film versions released on the Anniversary Edition:
    1 point
  27. Battle of Britain.
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  28. Buy on whatever format you like, as long as it supports those struggling artists John Williams and Disney! Yeah, who wants to end up with a bunch of HanZ* CDs. *Mostly composed by someone else.
    1 point
  29. I personally prefer TFA but why not. Guess half of the JWFan will want to murder us to think such a thing.
    1 point
  30. It works. I suspect it will work in 1.85 too because that is how they shot the footage. I think a big reason to do it in 1.33 is to also distinguish it from theatrical. I think had they done it is in 1.85, people would have called this the same exact movie - which at least some of it is. Let's see. It should be interesting. I am sure the day after it lands, there will be lots of fan edits offering the movie in different aspect ratios.
    1 point
  31. Interesting that you feel that way about his concert music, I feel like the sensibilities that drive his film and concert music are very, very close. A great intersection between the two is his ballet of La Strada, including the suite based off of it. One of my favorite melodies ever gets really good workouts in it: From 1:23 on It was really disappointing to hear Dumbo and not get that again.
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  33. Casanova is probably my favorite single score of his, but his output, especially his concert music, is sooooo vast, you're really digging into a whole 'nother world. This is also another great compilation:
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  35. That's not true. There's only 10 cues out there for TROS. And for TLJ I don't think his handwritten sketches are out there, are they? I think it's just the JKMS digital sheets
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  36. This comes across as a typical 'it doesn't appeal to me; therefore who else would want to listen to it?' type observation. How things currently work is that someone, somewhere decides whether a score is worth releasing. Wouldn't it be nice to have an ideal world where no one had to make that decision, and everything was just available? You can ignore all of that 'anonymous generic shit' that you don't like. I watched a Netflix thing this week abut the Cecil Hotel in L.A. - it was a 4-hour documentary, and I enjoyed the score. I suspect your view on the score would not be charitable, but what's wrong with a world in which the score to that was just available, for the few hundred people who liked it?
    1 point
  37. Wow really? Then this is a cool return for him. Hope Marvel sticks with him.
    1 point
  38. Yeah, well, maclunkey is Lucas's artistic vision as well, so....
    1 point
  39. The Orville started out as something completely different to where it eventually ended up. It literally recalibrates itself over a handful of episodes, for the better.
    1 point
  40. Bellosh

    Is there a PERFECT film?

    E.T.?
    1 point
  41. Bellosh

    Is there a PERFECT film?

    Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
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  42. It’s hard to know exactly what he had in mind, but it’s worth noting that TFA is a pretty unique John Williams score in that it was his main occupation for a full year, from November 2014 to November 2015. So, he was able to take advantage of having much more time to try multiple different possible themes and approaches to scoring scenes. Even the other sequel scores didn’t have the luxury of quite that much time. This early version of 1M5 The Scavenger is one of the very first things written for the film and dates from early December 2014, but it doesn’t appear the Rey’s Theme we all know appeared until late January 2015. This same theme also shows up briefly in 1M6 Seeing A Mother and Getting Rations, which also predates Rey’s Theme, so it seems it was considered as a theme for the character for at least a month or so. Along the same lines, the Kylo theme didn’t appear until mid-February 2015, a couple months after the First Order theme (first used December 2014), so I wonder if that could explain why it’s so seldom used: perhaps it was going to be the baddie theme for film until he thought of the Kylo motif, and he decided he just liked it better, mostly dropping the earlier theme from then on?
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  43. Wow, I’m so happy that for the final version he used the introduction of Rey’s theme on synth celeste instead – it was a magical moment seeing that in cinema. Especially considering the actual first statement of the long melody of the theme is stupidly covered by sound effects.
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