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  1. Looks like there's more of the cue list known now! Seems https://franklehman.com/starwars/ was updated recently with more of the cue list! These are the newly added cues that I noticed: 4M1C 7M28 Seeing Sights 7M44 Name That Tune 8M1 Approaching the Emperor #2 8M4C1o 8M4C2 8M4D 8M5B 8M8C Chorus 8M17 Duel of the Fates Excerpt Chant 1 Chant 2 xM4
    7 points
  2. So it's going to be extremely difficult to get through and will take intense preparation on my part to accomplish listening to it? Sounds about right. Lol.
    6 points
  3. Interesting! The ‘Seeing Sights’ title still got used for the FYC, even though it’s 7M32 Make the Sacrifice. Ah, looks like an earlier version of 7M20 Approaching the Throne! ⛔️ Warning! Long-winded explanation of the TROS cue numbering ahead. ⛔️ So, if my understanding of this unusual complicated cue list is correct, JW started scoring the rumored 3 hour 2 minute cut back in March 2019, and it was spotted as nine “reels” of roughly 20 minutes each (9 x 20 = 3 hours). This is why we have the seemingly nonsensical placement of 9M3 Bows and 9M5Alt Return to Ta
    6 points
  4. My guess is it's a combination of things. His regular collaborators (directors) became increasingly arthouse-centric, and made smaller and smaller films. King Kong could have perhaps reinforced a place for him in mainstream blockbuster cinema, but that didn't pan out. Both his writing process and aesthetic also don't seem to line up with how big movies are made these days. He belongs to the older generation of composers a la Williams, who just aren't as compatible with industry practices anymore. Williams could probably get away with doing it his way because of his industry clout, but no other
    5 points
  5. https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Kevin-Griffiths-Light-Symphony-Orchestra/dp/B08YP7GKCK/
    4 points
  6. With all the discussion about this bonkers cue list, I wanted to share some more: So no one else has to, I’ve spent some time going through the cue list with the various early rumors and novelization, and I’ve been able to come up with a pretty good idea where some of the unknown pieces may fit. Filial Fencing is most likely 1M2. The rumors all point to the Luke and Leia flashback duel originally starting the movie. Technically, the word “filial” pertains to parent-child relationships, rather than siblings, but there’s no known scene that would fit that definition. It’s no
    3 points
  7. To be clear, "veto" was my word, not Keith Lockhart's, and I apologize. Never meant to cause any confusion! I did find the interview in question, it was from the podcast "The Answered Question" from WCRB, with Brian McCreath. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-74-keith-lockhart-and-charles-dutoit/id1046679914?i=1000385851331 Around the 7:45 mark, here is Lockhart's exact quote: "...We brought them up to John, because of course we wanted his blessing on anything we--, some of the things I honestly think he didn't remember, because y
    3 points
  8. GEMA doesn’t have the cues from The Patriot, but most (all?) of the source is in the sheet music: Composed by JW 4M6 The Tavern 4M7 More Tavern 5M1 At Camp 6M1 Fort Drums 7M4 Ann’s Wedding 8M9 Battle Drums 9M1B [untitled - British drums] Arranged by JW 1M7 Yankee Doodle 2M2 Prince Eugene March 2M2A British Grenadiers 4M1 British Grenadiers 6M3 British Grenadiers The SESAC repertory does have the Patriot cues (in order!), but seems to have just accounted for several of the source cues as ‘Patriot Source’:
    2 points
  9. Seems kinda mean to me to wish for the livelihood of many people to go to toilet. Also, some of us rather like scale, spectacle and action in our movies and for that you do need studio money and resources. You can't do that on indie resources a-la "New American Wave" filmmaking of the early 1970s. I have no issue with big-budgeted extraveganzas. Its just the trend towards jovial, wink-at-the-audience tone that I disapprove of.
    2 points
  10. Scores get drowned out in the noise of these funny book flicks anyway. Not worth the bother.
    2 points
  11. I simply don't get why Howard Shore should write a score for a superhero movie. The Last decade has proven that this is not a genre for scores of high musical quality. To me even Patrick Doyle's efforts for Thor were terribly uninteresting.
    2 points
  12. Fran Leibowitz had an interesting perspective on this
    2 points
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  14. Ah, that hadn’t even occurred to me! Guess this was to prevent spoilers for the music prep staff rather than the musicians. The teaser with the emperor reveal was at least a couple months before the first session, but they would have already begun preparing the scores.
    2 points
  15. Interesting, so it was an actual cue title after all. I wonder if that means Coming Together and Rescue were also prototype cue titles that haven't turned up yet? I don't think it's 100% confirmed what cue title comprises FYC Coming Together either (if we believe the November edit, it's 7M30 More Action). It's crazy how many cues exist for that final act that went unused/were revised. And we know it all got recorded because fragments were tracked all across the film! This is a quick guess of what the major stretches of music in the final act are covered by: 7M12
    2 points
  16. So a reference to Duel of the Fates was indeed recorded! Seems I was wrong in assuming it was BS. Also now it appears we know for certain that the chanting is technically part of the score, not just sound effects added in post.
    2 points
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  18. As far as I understand, if it's been published, you just get the parts from the publisher, declare what you want to do with them (i.e. record and sell the performance), and pay the resulting fees. Then you can record and sell your performance, and Williams gets his share. No need for asking Williams personally, because that's what the publisher is for. If it hasn't been published, that won't work (obviously). Instead, you either get approval from Williams (and perhaps, if he's supportive, also sheet music). Or you get hold of the sheet music in some other, "unofficial" way, or tran
    2 points
  19. Those track titles are eye-rollingly bad in the way they beat you over the head with their turgid solemnity. Nearly four dozen of these things, with their deadly serious metaphors and trying-to-sound-smart wordplay (there are admittedly a handful of normal sounding titles sprinkled in there).... gag me with a fucking spoon already. More and more, this whole Snydercut project just seems like a colossal masturbatory exercise for everyone involved.
    2 points
  20. I can't imagine a SW movie would have to credit a cue from another SW movie, as Disney owns the rights to all of it. If they plonked in a cue from something another studio owns, then they'd have to licence and credit it. I think that's how it works.
    1 point
  21. Chen G., have you actually read the material they're allowed to adapt? It's only told by Tolkien in VERY broad strokes. They have a very, very, very general outline about some events that took place over a long period of time, and that's it. They don't have any novels or even proper stories to base this on. These TV writers (the second set, not the ones that got fired) are going to have to make up most of the plot particulars, a lot of characters, and almost all of the dialogue to make a series out of this. This isn't "adaptation". It's "inspired by", at best. I think even Shippey
    1 point
  22. Here's the millionth trailer with some cool new shots (and a Green Lantern reference )
    1 point
  23. I would guess they have straight reprises. Recall that this score was entirely composed and recorded remotely during pandemic. With often several different players having to be recorded separately, I think they would have avoided the cost and effort and used straight recordings where possible. So I expect these actual cues to be used in the film. Also, I think the inconsistent crediting might be a right's issue. For example I don't know if Star Wars is obliged to credit Burning Homestead or Binary Sunset when they track that all the time. I think HBO Max b
    1 point
  24. Two classics from the 80s: John Williams - The Empire Strikes Back OST Ennio Morricone - Once upon a time in America OST
    1 point
  25. I'm wondering if there aren't some tracks missing on the second disc listing here... the second disc has only slightly more than half as many as the first, and looking at the selections, I can't see those eight tracks would amount to more than 45/50 minutes whereas the first is well over an hour (just rough estimates here). In other words, the remaining 20/25 minutes on disc 2 is pretty much the ideal space for CE3K and ET. Of course, it's all just speculation... ;-)
    1 point
  26. Anyone who likes Junkie XL's and Hans Zimmers works for the DCEU will likely like that cue. But yes, that's...frustrating to say the least. I found it dull and powerless, personally. Both Desplat's theme and McCreary's interpretation are so much more superior. They're not even in the same ballpark. The continuity is annoying, but I do really like the music for both films so I give it a pass. I don't give this a pass though. I don't really give the MCU a pass either, because I can only remember most of the original themes that managed to stick around: Captain America and The Avenge
    1 point
  27. Part of the cue list: Chant 1 Chant 2 It appears that I was right in thinking that the Sith Eternal cult chants were done as part of the recording of the score. Lucky guess, huh?
    1 point
  28. You've just answered your own question.
    1 point
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  30. Looks like we'll finally be getting the Indy trilogy (plus some other film that came after Last Crusade) in 4K this June. Just in time for the Raiders (gulp) 40th anniversary. Let merriment be made, and distribution of the bread and circuses commence.
    1 point
  31. Technically it's hard for a Star Wars expansion not to coincide with some anniversary... 2022: ANH 45th Anniversary, AOTC 20th Anniversary, TLJ 5th Anniversary 2023: ROTJ 40th Anniversary 2024: TPM 25th Anniversary, TROS 5th Anniversary 2025: ESB 45th Anniversary, ROTS 20th Anniversary, TFA 10th Anniversary In fact, 2021 is the only year without an anniversary for any JW SW film until 2026.... it would be rather amusing if they decided to drip-feed the 9 expansions over the next 5 years, specifically avoiding each anniversary. But as pointed out ad n
    1 point
  32. Because 300 people died reaching its summit?
    1 point
  33. Well, here’s to hoping that there’ll be a Lights, Camera, Music Vol. 2 and that Williams doesn’t veto any rare tracks! 😉
    1 point
  34. Given some people were quick to jump to some of the key new sequences of the film when the mishap occurred, I'm not surprised the credits were skimmed through as well. The lack of "Clark Kent, Reporter" (What Are You Going To Do When You Are Not Saving The World?) is making me concerned that specific theme isn't gonna show up, unless it's such a radical reinterpretation that it doesn't sound like its MoS counterpart. The presence of Beautiful Lie does surprise me, given they sort of made it sound like Bats was going a completely new direction sound wise. Guess MARTHA is gonna factor into
    1 point
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  36. But I want more Godfathers, Conversations, Rain Men, French Connections, Untouchables, Marathon Men, Chinatowns, Taxi Drivers (no not that fucken Joker shit), Barry Lyndons, Full Metal Jackets, Deer Hunters, Bananas, Annie Halls, Manhattans and Interiors!
    1 point
  37. karelm

    The Composer's Thread

    Thanks! Goldenthal, Wagner, and Williams are all long time influences. A funny story, the orchestra had a wimpy gong and I really wanted a classical tam-tam. I even specify at least 32 inch. During the rehearsal, there was a perfect tam-tam sitting on the side from the university orchestra. So I begged to switch to that one. We did but the percussionist was playing it way too softly for the roar I intended. Part of this was my fault because in the past, percussionists never played soft enough for me so I always asked them to whisper it for the effect I wanted (and even then they were s
    1 point
  38. This score is being heavily promoted. Billbord.com puff piece. https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/9539555/zack-snyders-justice-league-soundtrack-date-track-list Official artwork below. Junkie calls it the Mount Everest of film scores.
    1 point
  39. There's a good reason those shitty tracks were rejected!
    1 point
  40. For a full C&C, it'll have to be 3 CDs for each film, minimum.
    1 point
  41. Yeah, let great interesting music fucking rot, never to be heard, just because some stupid director rejected it 40 years ago!
    1 point
  42. A lot of recordings from the 70s sound a lot better than most "modern" recordings.
    1 point
  43. JWFan 2051: 'Do you think there will be a complete score release?' Disney: 'Oh so you want a cassette rerelease?'
    1 point
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