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  1. Set photos of a train and costumes
    5 points
  2. Last Crusade ended on a pitch perfect note. Spielberg pulled off literally having them ride off into the sunset without it seeming clichéd. The whole thing should have ended there. But if we had to have more Indy films, I'm glad they're getting another crack at the whip because ending on that last abomination was not a good look. If Indy 5 is worthy, I'll just continue to ignore KOTCS and treat the new film as an epilogue to a Trilogy.
    4 points
  3. PLEASE OH PLEASE let this come true. They really screwed Struzan over on the sequel Star Wars. Just let this kind man create a beautiful work of art for this one! In his book he talks about how working on Crystal Skull was such a pain. He used to just report directly to Spielberg/Lucas and on occasions the actors he was depicting. But these movies have just become so gargantuan with so many “suits” and reps involved and markets to please. They wanted a zillion comps and edits. (He works by hand not Photoshop ya know)Too many cooks in the kitchen. He couldn’t get within a hundred yards of the director to get their approval directly anymore. So he just retired 😔
    4 points
  4. I'm going to keep an open mind on this film. At a minimum, joining Indy on his latest supernatural treasure hunt will be legendary composer John Williams. Once again, William's music will let Jones know when to run and when to duck. When to kiss the heroine or smash the enemy. Others can do as they wish, but as for me, I'll be there to watch. And listen. And live. John Williams will save yet another life, and give Indy a refreshing new life of his own.
    3 points
  5. There are definitely tones for RotS, maybe not 15.735kHz but 15.625kHz (which is the PAL frequency, could make sense since it was recorded in London). Comparison between 2018 demaster and 2005 OST for Enter Lord Vader (from Revenge of the Sith): In both cases, the line is precise, without any noise or variation. Comparison between 2018 demaster and 2002 OST for The Meadow Picnic (from Attack of the Clones): On the OST spectrogram, several sections (0:00 to 0:20, 0:50 to 1:30, 1:55 to 2:35 and 3:40 to 3:50) show a very clean line, like what we see on Revenge of the Sith. However, the demaster spectrogram shows a more dirty, noisy, less accurate line for the whole track. This is a proof that it doesn't come from the digital masters but from transferred analog tapes. Comparison between 2018 demaster and 1999 OST for The Arrival at Tatooine and The Flag Parade (from The Phantom Menace): The TPM score indeed doesn't have those CRT tones. However, other tones can be used to analyze the recording. Here we have a 19.80/19.81 kHz frequency inherent to the recording that is, once again much more precise and clean on the OST, compared to the grainy, noisy signal on the demaster. The same thing can be observed on recent Mike Matessino expansions for which analog tapes were transferred: Comparison between 2019 LLL and 2002 OST for Leo Crow...The Confrontation (from Minority Report): Comparison between 2018 LLL and 2001 OST for Prologue (Hedwig’s Flight) (from Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone): Going back to AI, we can clearly see that Mike used the digital master for the LLL release when comparing for example The Mecha World:
    3 points
  6. Apparently these markings on coach carriages were used by the Nazis on gold/loot trains during WWII. Awesome concept for an opening teaser, and thematically fitting for an Indy film.
    3 points
  7. I was going to make a thread that would serve as an ultimate guide to all of JWs concert works where, in one big post, I would give piece details, recording details and the like. I have not been able to find the time to really sit down and do that, and the end result may be a bit overwhelming. So I decided to go for a different format instead, and do a chronological listening and discussion thread for all of John's concert pieces. Every few days in this thread, I will make an main post about one of JWs concert works, and the discussion will go from there as we all listen to the piece and share our impressions and any additional information y'all have. Of course, some pieces won't have any recordings that I can share here, or any recordings at all, but we can still discuss those pieces when we get to them. I will continuously edit this post to serve as a sort of glossary as we go along, with links to the individual discussions. I hope many of you will discover JWs rich body of concert work for the first time or gain a greater appreciation for it. We'll start properly on Monday. Prelude and Fugue (1965) Essay for Strings (1965) Symphony No. 1 (1966) Sinfonietta for Wind Ensemble (1968) Flute Concerto (1969) A Nostalgic Jazz Odyssey (1971) Violin Concerto No. 1 (1974-1976) Fanfare for a Festive Occasion(1980) Jubilee 350 Fanfare(1980) Pops On The March(1981) America, The Dream Goes On(1982) Esplanade Overture(1983) Olympic Fanfare and Theme(1984) (The Mission) (1985) Tuba Concerto (1985) Liberty Fanfare (1986) Celebration Fanfare (1986) & A Hymn To New England (1987) We're Looking Good! (1987) The Olympic Spirit (1988) Fanfare For Michael Dukakis (1988) & Fanfare For Ten Year Olds (1988) To Lenny! To Lenny! (1988) Winter Games Fanfare (1989) Celebrate Discovery!(1990) Clarinet Concerto (1991) Aloft! To The Royal Masthead...(Fanfare For Prince Phillip) 1992 Sound The Bells (1993) Cello Concerto (1994) Satellite Celebration (Song For World Peace) (1995) Happy Birthday Variations (1995) Bassoon Concerto "The Five Sacred Trees" (1995)
    2 points
  8. I just broke 3-month music fast with a back-to-back real-world chronological listen to all 9 Star Wars Scores. They're all great, but three of them stand out as faultless, and one is on another plane in its totality. Star Wars is a breath away from perfection. It is only let down by its 1977 mixing and simplicity. The Force Awakens is a breath and the hair of a fine feline away from perfection. It's too dark and claustrophobic at times to make it an enjoyable experience. The Phantom Menace is perfection. Crisp is the word that comes to mind. The mix is sublime. The music is expansive but not so much that it feels disjointed. It's true to science fiction, dark where it needs to be, and brimming with energy and creativity. You feel like you're on a galactic adventure with this one. This is what I would take to a deserted island with me. The remaining six suffer from rambling incoherence at times. They are too ambitious, too unfocused, and start to move away from being Star Wars. If you just listen to the first of each trilogy, you get the best Star War musical experience. The three have exceptional continuity with each other (mix/mastering aside). They feel more cohesive together than they do with their respective trilogies. Thematically you basically get all the highlights of the 9 movies. That is all.
    2 points
  9. Different doesn't mean bad. This is still one of the best things McCreary has done:
    2 points
  10. At least three - Neumation Music Omni Music Publishing Chris Siddall Music
    2 points
  11. https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/ I wouldn't put too much stock in anything that comes from that place, lol.
    2 points
  12. I think it is a shame the franchise did not continue during the 90's. Now in the end we have two old indy features and even worse Spielberg is not the director. There could have been another trilogy in the 90's with different directors. And that would have been three williams scores in his prime.
    2 points
  13. Sounds to me more like a cousin of Superman.
    2 points
  14. Maybe it's a flashback that ties into the main story. A "present day" secret Nazi cult that survived (no doubt hiding in Argentina) and is dedicated to recovering an artifact stolen by Jones during the war that will help revive the Thousand-Year Reich or something like that. Either way, given Spielberg's reported very "hands on" involvement as producer, it’s a surprise (though a welcome one to be sure) they're doing Nazis at all. Didn't The Baseball Cap say he was done with them as villains?
    2 points
  15. My favorite Mancini is and probably always will be Wait Until Dark. But don’t just buy it on album. Seek out the excellent film and experience it there, first. Incredible serious scoring. Yavar
    2 points
  16. Also Lifeforce. His score for the boozing drama Days of Wine and Roses has some very touching and eloquently sad pieces, especially the 7-minute long 'I want to come home', which features the famous title theme in a variety of guises and you can hear how this direct way of writing informed guys like Williams in their approach.
    2 points
  17. Basically all that comes after 'The Scorpion' (action and more rousing stuff).
    2 points
  18. Looks like an opening WWII flashback. Fingers crossed! Would be interesting if that wound up being the teaser, combined into a flashback. They love recycling ideas from past scripts in this series. It even looks like the same location:
    2 points
  19. I'm feeling the excitement in the air, this seems like a really solid creative team so we could get something good out of this.
    2 points
  20. Oh mama, I am liking what I'm seeing. One last John Williams Indy OST with Struzan cover art would be a thing of beauty.
    2 points
  21. 2 points
  22. I am attending the Sunday evening show. It would be great to have a JWFan gathering after or before the concert. I got to meet members of JWFan way, way back in 2004 after a Boston Pops concert with JW, and it was a big highlight.
    2 points
  23. Hey, ya'll, The original thread will be full of people talking about shipping notices for another 4-5 pages or so, so to avoid you having to weed through that to talk about the actual contents of the set, here is a separate thread to do that! Those of you who have the set - how does it sound, what do you think of the music that was never released before, was ET Adventure worth the wait, what do you think of the liner notes? Oh, and just to leave it in a place more easily found, if you are putting this on your digital player of choice and want the extra cues from disc 2 integrated into the the flow of the complete score, here is the chronological order again: 1-01 Main Title 1:14 1-02 Far From Home / E.T. Alone 6:57 2-11 The Encounter 1:49 1-03 Bait for E.T. 1:45 1-04 Meeting E.T. 2:08 1-05 E.T.’s New Home 1:28 1-06 The Beginning of a Friendship 2:53 1-07 Toys 3:13 1-08 I’m Keeping Him 2:20 1-09 E.T.’s Powers 2:44 1-10 The Closet 0:53 1-11 E.T. and Elliott Get Drunk 2:57 1-12 Frogs 2:12 2-14 The Kiss 0:49 2-15 Levitation 0:41 1-13 At Home 5:38 1-14 The Magic of Halloween 2:55 1-15 Sending the Signal 3:58 1-16 Searching for E.T. 4:18 1-17 Invading Elliott’s House 2:24 1-18 Stay With Me 2:24 1-19 Losing E.T. 2:04 1-20 E.T. Is Alive 4:22 1-21 The Rescue and Bike Chase 8:07 1-22 The Departure 7:07 1-23 End Credits 3:55 TOTAL TIME - 81:16
    1 point
  24. Do you have a source for any of that? I was aware these rumours have been around for a while but I didn’t see anything that was able to disprove the claims
    1 point
  25. I like a lot of moments in this score, especially the many variations on the main theme, but I do not enjoy listening to the entire soundtrack from beginning to end. The prominent use of a heartbeat like synthesized effect is cool in the film, but I do not find those tracks musically enjoyable.
    1 point
  26. Yeah, it's a good idea. I own all of Williams' concert works, except a handful that are not available in any format whatsoever ("A Toast!", "Symphony No. 1", that kind of stuff). So I'll probably refer to a previous thread about it if you don't.
    1 point
  27. All of this was pretty much debunked long ago. That sub-Reddit is known for its bullshit posts.
    1 point
  28. You can get a lot of notes into a relatively small PDF file. If they had removed some of that Hobbitses audio, maybe they could have included the entire score! Which one are you?
    1 point
  29. Schilkeman

    Your Top 10 JW Scores

    This could just as easily all 9 Star Wars and Temple of Doom for me, but tried to get a little variety in there 1. Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (intellectual favorite) 2. Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope 3. Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace 4. Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (actual favorite) 5. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom 6. Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark 7. Hook 8. Superman: The Movie 9. Minority Report 10. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
    1 point
  30. All those disc just to take a picture of four covers on your sumptuous tile! That's a really expensive hobby you have! A really nice score from on of my favourite 2019 movie. It was a damn good surprise
    1 point
  31. I don't know, I don't listen to them, I just take pictures of the covers!
    1 point
  32. I recently purchased the original soundtrack of Max Steiner's The Three Musketeers, released by Brigham University. The booklet contains a picture of the handwritten piano reduction of the main title song. That was a great find, as the song is very catchy, and I haven't found the sheet music anywhere else.
    1 point
  33. The film I have mentioned on the previous page opened with exactly that - action scenes around a Nazi vessel fleeing with a treasure in 1945. Then fast forward to 1970 with Argentine Nazis wanting to restore the Reich, the introduction of an older main hero, and an ensuing intrigue and hunt for the treasure.
    1 point
  34. The Revenge of the Sith 2018 release has distortion present over the Battle of the Heroes segment of the credits - it's egregiously bad. Not sure how anyone didn't notice when making the set.
    1 point
  35. One of the great, unheralded film composers of France (of his generation) - although doing only very sporadic things in the last 15 years. I first encountered his name in JEAN DE FLORETTE and CYRANO DE BERGERAC on television in the early 90s, like many others, but this is a great overview disc of his other great work as well.
    1 point
  36. From 1988 I like Die Hard, Willow, Beetlejuice, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Midnight Run, The Accidental Tourist, Scrooged... and The Naked Gun!
    1 point
  37. Hmmm. Wonder if there’ll be flashbacks to the 40s? Unless Germany kept their same uniforms in the 60s...
    1 point
  38. YES! Hopefully I can get tickets to film night!
    1 point
  39. I respect trees. Oak, pine, birch. I respect all trees.
    1 point
  40. A JW/Lynch collaboration could've been interesting...
    1 point
  41. I think that AoE was written for what amounted to a different movie, but Williams refused to drop it even when the movie had changed to something different. It is a cool theme, though not in the league of the Emperor's theme.
    1 point
  42. HOLLY MOLLY!!! 1989... PART ONE!!! Field of Dreams, The Last Dream Crusade, The Batman of my dreams and the Abyss of all my dreams...
    1 point
  43. With firefighters trapped in a raging firestorm and the nearest rescue choppers 40 minutes away, Pete inspires Ted to lead a dangerous rescue mission. Perturbed by echoes of the past, Al calls Dorinda to inform her of Ted's intentions. Unable to bear another loss, Dorinda takes charge and pilots the plane into the furnace. Cue Status: OST T13 The Rescue Operation With Pete's guidance, Dorinda saves the firefighters and escapes the blaze. At last, Pete is able to tell Dorinda everything he wanted to say in life. Mechanical trouble forces an emergency landing on the lake. Dorinda survives but the plane sinks to the lake bed. Seemingly reluctant to escape the flooding cockpit, Dorinda pauses before easing back into the chair and accepting her fate... until Pete appears before her. He extends his hand and Dorinda chooses to live. At last Pete releases Dorinda, who embraces her future with Ted. Pete smiles and walks in the opposite direction, assuming his place in heaven. (Note: The film's climactic cue (from 4:33 onward) is actually a revision. Williams' darker, more pensive original version was nonetheless paired with the penultimate cue in OST T7 Among the Clouds, segueing as Williams originally intended). Cue Status: OST T7 Among the Clouds (0:00-4:28), T18 Dorinda Solo Flight Another version of Smoke Gets In Your Eyes opens the end credits, which segues into Williams' unreleased end credits suite. Sadly the song partially replaces the start of the suite, and the ending was tracked over by a reprise of Dorinda Solo Flight. For this presentation, I have used all the music that appears in the film (0:08-3:38) and patched in the start and end using Theme from Always from the first Spielberg/Williams collaboration album (which appears to be derived from the film's credits suite). Cue Status: Unreleased, partially unused in film
    1 point
  44. You could just tag me, @crumbs! 😛 Anyway, I can fill in some of the blanks: 1 Munich, 1972 2:37 0:00-1:05 8M239 Remembering Munich 1:05-1:29 1M3 Outside the Fence 1:29-end 1M3A Gaining Entry 2 The Attack At Olympic Village 3:00 9M43 First Flashback 3 Hatikvah (The Hope) 2:02 1M21 Hatikvah 4 Remembering Munich 4:38 8M239 Remembering Munich 5 Letter Bombs 2:49 0:00-0:58 9M99 Letter Bombs / 9M99 String Addition 0:58-1:32 R6M157 Greek Hotel 1:32-end 4M116BA Hotel Room Bomb 6 A Prayer For Peace 3:51 Avner’s Theme Strings 7 Bearing The Burden 8:12 0:00-4:39 7M211N Paranoia and the Death of Robert 4:39-end 7M211 Avner Alone and the Death of Robert 8 Avner And Daphna 4:02 Oboe Theme 9 The Tarmac At Munich 3:59 0:00-3:06 7M194 From Bus To Helicopter 3:06-end 7M207 The Death Of Jeannette 10 Avner’s Theme 3:07 Avner’s Theme [solo guitar] 11 Stalking Carl 4:25 0:00-2:13 2M60 Stalking Carl 2:13-end 6M202 Finding Carl 12 Bonding 1:57 0:00-0:37 2M52 New Beginning - Bonding [guitar plays clarinet solo] 0:37-end 2M52 Bonding [guitar plays clarinet solo] 13 Encounter in London And Bomb Malfunctions 3:38 0:00-1:20 7M190 London Rain / 7M190 Overlay - London Rain 1:20-end 6M164 Russians, And The Bomb Malfunctions / 6M164 2nd Overlay 2:29-2:54 6M164 Overlay 14 Discovering Hans 2:47 0:00-0:53 7M230 Discovery Of Hans (Oboe Version) 0:53-1:45 8M230 Discovery Of Hans (Bonding Version) 1:45-end 8M230 Discovery Of Hans (Clarinet Version) [piano plays clarinet and cello solos] 15 The Raid In Tarifa 2:04 2M60 New - Stalking Carl 16 Thoughts Of Home 4:04 Oboe Theme [cello plays oboe solo 8vb] 17 Hiding The Family 1:28 9M259 Brooklyn Street 18 End Credits 4:05 8M272 End Credits We’ve seen a few cases where OST tracks combine a cue and an alternate, ‘Dorinda and Pete’ from Always and ‘Bearing the Burden’ here, for example, but I think ‘Discovering Hans’ must be the only case of three versions of a cue in one track!
    1 point
  45. Freshly arrived from out of space, the Goldsmith's masterpiece...
    1 point
  46. I have just recalled that there actually is a very good proof of concept for an old Indy fighting old Nazis. In the 1960s there was a TV series that was very popular in Poland, titled "Stakes Larger Than Life" (pol. Stawka większa niż życie) about a Polish agent impersonating a German agent during World War II and doing some spying and some action scenes and heroics. It even had a great fanfare theme: In 2012 a film sequel was made, with 40+ years older actors reprising their roles. The film was set in communist Poland and East Germany, and the topic was a hunt for the legendary treasure - The Amber Room https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Room There was a very cool difference in quality between an old black-and-white TV series and 2012 film cameras. The old actors (aged 83 and 89!) for the most part did well, and leaned well on younger supporting characters as well as new, young actors playing in flash-backs. It was interesting to see characters from a different era and conflict move around the world of the 1970s. A better script and budget was all it would take for that film to have been a succesful Indy sequel (sans Williams).
    1 point
  47. There is always the possibility of an introductory mini-adventure. Or the former rumours might be a red herring to some degree.
    1 point
  48. Aw. Harrison looks great. Sure he doesn’t look 45 anymore. But all the power to him if he wants to come back and wear the hat. (Sidenote: I had my fingers crossed they’d have him grow a cool beard for this one. Doesn’t look like that are though. Maybe they’ll add it in post;)
    1 point
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