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  1. 1 hour ago, GerateWohl said:

    I actually thought, when I listened to the Deluxe Edition of Aliens what a good job Cameron did in the music selection leaving out all these heroic militaristic fanfares Horner composed and just using the suspense and action music, which made the movie much better than it would have been putting all of Horner's music in like replacing the fanfares for the landing preparation just with these military snare drums. There I thought, Cameron really knows what He is doing. But that was long before Avatar.

     

    All these heroic militaristic fanfares? You mean that one 3-minute cue? Big deal.

  2. 13 minutes ago, Thor said:

    The one that’s left, presumably.

     

    No, take another pick. But hey, if there are guys who think 'The Abyss' is good music, who am i to argue?

     

    But this doesn't belong in a AVATAR 2-thread but a much bigger question FILMmusic vs. filmMUSIC. Sadly you would have to title it 'User Mattris from Star Wars Disenchantment thread held captive Kathleen Kennedy until she confessed that Emperor Palpatine was Jabba's brother' to get some attention.

     

  3. 6 minutes ago, Thor said:

     

    Ouch.

     

    THE ABYSS is one of three scores that got me into film music in the first place in the early 90s (the other two being TWIN PEAKS and JURASSIC PARK), so it's like a family member to me. Love it dearly -- both the chilly, electronic underwater music, the military, percussive stuff and the religioso awe and wonder kitch at the end. TITANIC is an amazing score that deserved all the kudos it got. It always pleased me that teenage girls got the -- at times -- harrowing and dissonant score to go with their purchase of a Celine Dion song. :D I consider ALIENS Horner's second-greatest score of all time, after THE BOY IN THE STRIPED PAJAMAS. And THE TERMINATORs, for all their unlistenability on their own, are IMO the pinnacle of how to do sound design-inspired scores.

     

    So yeah, definitely pinnacles of their medium, all of those.

     

     

    Thor, you have Van Gogh's ear for music. ;)

  4. 3 minutes ago, Thor said:

    Well, nobody said he was easy to work with, or had the most musical savviness. But somehow, these great, iconic scores turned out of the process nonetheless.

     

    That's were we differentiate: i consider this stuff loved by either deaf guys or guys who are much more in love with movies than with music (as Music). Is Abyss great? Titanic? Probably for guys that like movies more than music, but to me as a purely music-driven person, i have a hard time accepting that people find stuff like that the pinnacle of the medium.

  5. I never forget that Don Davis interview which i will quote here (it proves Cameron musically has something like the lowest common denominator and has been pretty successful running with it):

     

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    Actually, I gained a lot of respect for Horner during Titanic, because Horner was accommodating Cameron in ways that I thought a composer the stature of Horner had no reason to accommodate anyone. He completely handled the situation with absolute humility and professionalism. I don't think there are very many composers who would have acquiesced to Jim Cameron the way Horner did. Horner gave Jim exactly what he wanted. I think there are some people who think that the Titanic score may be overly simplistic, or some people object to the Celtic nature of it, or whatever, but I can tell you that if any other composer had scored that picture, Jim would have fired him and at least four other composers before he got what he wanted.

     

  6. On 12/12/2022 at 12:29 PM, Tallguy said:

    I always loved that in each of his TNG scores he did something a little different with his "crew" theme that he introduced in Star Trek V. It's just a little 4 note motif. It's in God is a Busy Man. It's played in the middle of the Courage fanfare at the very beginning of First Contact. And here he builds it into the love theme!

     

    It's not a crew but a quest motif.

  7. 10 hours ago, JoeinAR said:

    The 2020s has perhaps the least capable film composers in film history.

     

    You got it wrong: the 2010s and 2020s film and tv industry just has the least interest in music as an artform compared with the decades before. So the best you can hope for now is a smart director who values music, and in the mainstream field unfortunately they all fell under the Zimmer spell (Nolan, Villeneuve).

  8. 1 hour ago, GerateWohl said:

    hardly care about plot in such a movie. About storytelling I do. 

    King Kong and Alien have almost the same plot (People travelling to foreign place, for gaining profit picking up monster, things getting out of hand, many die, monster's fate sealed by a couragous lady, monster dead, lady survives). But the storytelling is fundamentally different. And in both cases interesting. And in both cases the movie is telling us different things about the characters, about people and the world in general.

     

    What i was additionally getting at is this kind of backwards, almost reactionary treatment of the 'nature' people in this world the movie portrays so vividly (you have a problem when stuff like 'Moana' runs circles around your own indigenous tribes). 

     

    It's really not a very nourishing topic, it's Avatar 2, Cameron has turned into the George Lucas prequel phase of his own franchise and even suggesting it would have taken little effort to create a more engaging conflict beyond big white guys with huge machines fighting noble savages (again!) riles many people here and elsewhere up: they have been trained over decades to defend what little they get. 

     

    So the rest has to contend itself with the occasional spectacular corral reef diving sequence and that's that. I'm just curious what Cameron has in mind for A3...the world is built, what's next? Tribe vs. tribe, maybe? (he may have seen Wakanda by now).

  9. 6 hours ago, MaxMovieMan said:

    Yeah but you describe the plot like it’s pure garbage🤣And you said the new one is awful and sad.

     

    Yes and i said why. To counter that with what you wrote doesn't make any sense, since i singled out very specific points, you came up with just the most basic generalities that can be applied to any dumb blockbuster. But i hand it to the companies, they did a great job training the disciples. :lol:

  10. 1 hour ago, MaxMovieMan said:

    The blue monkeys are getting to you.

     

    I swear some people describe the plot of “Avatar” like it’s “The Room.” It’s thin but come on I see the same people hating on “Avatar” loving “Top Gun: Maverick” when that movie is just as thin and copies the plot of another movie. Not every movie needs a crazy story. Of course a story is required or else it’s a documentary but the story doesn’t need to be anything special every time. It just needs to propel the characters from place to place logically at least at the bare minimum and from there you can do whatever. Some films decide to focus more on spectacle and I don’t see anything wrong with that.

     

    Did you even read what i wrote? Because nothing you write here indicates that. And yes, we got it already in several posts before yours that this movie needs no 'crazy' story. So rest assured, you will have a great time at the Multiplex.

  11. 5 minutes ago, Mephariel said:

    I am not sure what your point is. There is a lot more shows now because of the number of streaming services. But high level TV Shows are still out there. 

     

    That is exactly the problem. The Golden Age of TV was a rare period when there wasn't a huge explosion of 'content', but a comparably tiny number of 'special' shows with often original topics which had time to develop, spread their wings, develop a fanbase. It was just not like old tv anymore (save Twin Peaks) and now, the dust has started to settle after everyone joined the wagon, looking for the biggest market share, and the landscape it’s revealed is dispiritingly familiar. More Marvel, LOTR and GoF, as well as canceling less broad mainstream appeal shows that would have had considerably more time in 2012. 

     

    So of course there are good shows, but often enough they escape and are not nurtured the way HBO did that, or early Netflix. I see enough shows for at least one episode and it's easy to tell which ones have potential. And these are quite rare.

  12. Obviously the circus and traveling cues, which (re) use a handful of motifs. But the main theme clearly is the only really sing-along tune. It's too long by at least half an hour, but the boy's singing voice is so grating i had to skip these parts. And there are quite a few of these singing parts in it.

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