John Crichton

Shadows of the Empire was decent, but can't compare to anything ever written by Williams. "Night Skies" is the only really memorable cue for me, a good treatment of two of JW's best themes. "Xizor's Theme" is decent too, and the choral bits in the final battle were well done. John- who needs to say "I love this thread!"

Get K.M. to go for a little "indimidation muscle". Might want to take his sig pic too. He'll talk....eventually.

LOL It's both funny and slightly disturbing that JW can't be considered the most reliable source of his own music. But it's not necessarily something bad, it's like actors that have done so much that they can't remember it all.

Since it's not out in paperback form, that's a pretty big assumption. Yeah, I'm waiting for the PB edition to come out in the U.S Right then, invisotext added.

Good find Ray. We'll take some hope any way we can get it right now.

I'm very optimistic for Williams pulling out all the stops for Ep. 3. And based on what I've heard (a handful of minor spoilers and details, nothing major) I think that this one will have the least last minute editing. The big battle is at the start of the film, so any Battle of Naboo or Geonosis situation would be at the start and over early. And there's the fact that Ben Burtt's editing role has been reduced, good news for us. But what do I know, I liked AOTC. EDIT- In regards to your second post, I learned to accept a couple of years ago the deteriation of the movie industry. Thankfully, I think TV has gotten better in some respects. I've spent much more time watching either new eps or DVDs of Buffy, Farscape, Angel, Deep Space 9, Coupling, and Survior. I've even managed to get some of my friends into several of these shows. I think I've been to a movie theater 2 or 3 times in the last year.

Yeah, neither would I. The reason this is hitting us so hard is that we know that GoF has the most potential for a legendary score than any of the first 5 books. OotP is more character drama, mystery, intrigue, and teenage angst. Not that any of that is absent from GoF, but there's so many herioc moments and the ESB-like ending. Although I would love to hear Willams music for (highlight OotP spoilers) Fred and Geogre's departure from Hogwarts, and for the Voldemort-Dumbledore deul.

Rat Race. It's almost worth it just to see Cleese and those huge false teeth he has in that movie. He steals every scene he's in. The rest is "ehhh". I get so frustrated when I see Rowan Atkinson in these things. If only filmmakers in the US could figure out that he plays an a**hole SO much better than a bumbling idiot... But I guess intelligence from Hollywood is asking a lot. John- a huge Blackadder fan.

Or at least pretend.

You don't mean that. Well, not the second sentence anyway.

This is the way I've always interpreted the themes: Grail Theme: No argument from anyone here. Brassy and majesctic, no mistaking it. Grail Knight Theme: This is the pastoral theme, similar in my mind to The Face of Pan from Hook. It plays after Indy opens the knight's tomb, right after he crashes into Senior's room and they are talking about the tomb, when Indy finds the surviving knight in the Grail room, and in the finale as a kind of eulogy to the last knight. Henry's Theme: This starts as a comical theme, most represented in Keeping Up With The Jonses. But it has other statements, I remember one when Sr. gives his blashemy slap. But, after Indy's near death experience involving a tank and a cliff, it evolves into a more traditional, warm Williams relationship theme. It's first statement in this form is when Sr. sees Indy for the first time after the tank falls ("I thought I lost you."). It plays a couple more times in the last part of the film.

I was a fan of the books, so yes. Williams scoring the first three films was a huge, unbelievable bonus.

I'm sorry, but this is nuts. Episode 3 is the culmination of one of Williams' most important works. Not just because it's popular, but because he's devoted so much of his professional life to it. Finishing the Star Wars Saga is a seminal moment in his career, and there is nothing that should keep him from it. John- who thinks a Howard Shore Star Wars score is the stuff of the most terrifying, disturbing nightmares.

"What CD did you buy?" "It's the new John Williams score, Lesbian Spank Inferno*." *Title shamelessly stolen from Coupling

Good new title, Joe. Let the never-ending thread continue until it...er...never ends. And "Potterdom" shall live forever at JWFan! Why? 'Cause we're Williams fans too!

Great poll! LOL The answer: Steef in a landslide.

K.M. is definately on a roll. I think he should be the one to write an "offcial response" on behalf of all (well, most) of us, maybe even a letter to JW himself (if anyone knows where to send it?). But first someone needs to teach him which one's the spacebar. LOL

What's going on here, the poll vanished? Maybe God is telling us that Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones, no one else! LOL

Good post Lord Maurizio. I still think Geisha over GoF is a mistake, but you make good points and are making an effort to be understood and polite. And not just trying to be an ass unlike some people. EDIT- For clarification, thanks to the perils of similtanous posting. I was referring to Lord Maurizio's post at the end of page 2, not the one at the start of this page.

TJ, for some reason I just knew you were gonna say something like that. No clue where I got that idea from....

Ben's Death and TIE Fighter attack. And to address the underlying question of this poll, Williams film music trumps the concert works by a wide margin. The Olympic Themes are the only non-film concert pieces I enjoy, the rest are generally .

This isn't a new trend either, though. According to the Superman booklet (Rhino release), the concert piece for the love theme was recorded only because the main theme reprise wasn't long enough for the whole end credits. It was then slopped on the end. Just think, if it weren't for that we might not have gotten one of JW's best concert presentations ever.

I wonder if we can now, after 44 pages, declare this thread dead. GoF just doesn't have the excitement it did a couple of days ago.

So there's no such thing as a Harry Potter fan that has appreciation for film music. Interesting position, since many of us here are both Potter and film music fans, myself included. And who's "leashing Williams art"? Just because we disagree on which film is a better medium for his style, or which would produce the better score?

Hmmm, tough choice. Last Crusade is my favorite Indy score. I once saw it described here as "thematically perfect", and I can't argue with that. And I know it wasn't Joe that said that. But, looking at all these themes, despite my love for Last Crusade, I have to go with the Ark theme. Grand, epic, and powerful. The Grail theme and the Slave Children theme would be right after.