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Just wtached "The Treasure of Sierra Madre". i was always wondering what was the fuss about and this is in AFI's 100 best films ever etc. Well, it was a great film indeed with great acting and suspense, without using any CGI (as one user pointed out in imdb) All these classic films are certainly fine examples of what movies should be and offer great lessons to today's film directors. Story, story, story, story FIRST!

D in C Major would be a lydian chord progression, but I'm talking about the lydian chord. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydian_chord oh, ok. I'm not aquainted with jazz terminology and notation. @Ludwig When, I used the word "just" I certainly didn't mean that it's trivial or usual. Well as I've said sometimes, English is not my native language, so maybe some things I write are misunderstood.. I used "just" meaning that we don't have to search for complex explanations (reading Prometheu's polychords etc.) of the chord. The word didn't refer to the use of the chord itself.

Thank you very much Ludwig for the insightful analysis! By the way, in the fanfare, in 1st and 3rd idea, I'd say that the goal note is the down C, so we have a downward 5th. (I don't know. maybe i'm influenced by its duration and position in the bar) Prometheus I don't undestand you. A lydian chord in C major wouldn't be the D-F#-A? How is that chord Lydian? anyway, I would just say that it's a IV with an eleventh.

I hope this means that a bluray is coming! it's a great film!!

Of course my concept refers to film scores which are masterful and take music to a higher level, and can stand on their own without altering a note, and not an average sound-designy score..

I guess you didn't follow my early posts on this matter. I said I prefer in film music to hear the film versions and not concert versions, as I wouldn't prefer to hear a "concert version" of the beethoven movement (with bits and pieces stitched together). (and I explained to Faleel what i meant by "concert version" of the Beethoven movement) only be listening to the original film cues you can see all the glory of a film score. The concert arrangements are just commercial pieces composed afterwards for the general public and for the album. OF course they can be magnificent too on their own right, but they are just excerpts of something larger.

But Beethovens symphony is ALREADY a concert work... yeah, you know what i meant. Take bits here and there of the last large movement and make it into a 4-5 minute piece.

What do you mean hand-drawn 3d? 3d film that looks like hand-drawn? If that's the case, yes: Paperman

i completely completly completely agree!! That's why I love the original Star Wars trilogy! (and I'll die without seeing it in Blu-ray! )

You could almost make an analogy with orchestral music and synth music. One is made by real people, you can feel there is much more energy, much more life into it, while the other is made using a computer and the result most of the time feels a bit lifeless, lacking a soul. Wow. I'm being poetic. Well said! And I don't loathe ALL of computer animation. I still like some pixar films like the Toy Story trilogy, Bug's Life, Nemo, etc... But other than that, I can't find anything else that I can put on the same artistic level with the hand-drawn animation films of the past. I was just watching scenes from Anastasia and Thumbellina (not to talk all the time about Disney). and although those films aren't considered great on the whole, they still have a magic that I can't find in computer animation. I just had an idea: Imagine Wagner's Nimbelungen in a traditional hand-drawn animation film like the classic ones. Wouldn't that make a success? If it is done right, that is. Because we did have Quest for Camelot, which was a so-so film. Since epic fantasy sells well from what it seems, well.. Make an epic fantasy animation film. Maybe that would be a bit less risky than something else. There's so many people that watch fantasy anime (non-Japanese people too), so why not make an American one?

(Y) (Y) (Y) (Y) It's a pity Disney can't understand anymore the significance of a work of art! What will they leave as a legacy to the next generations? Wreck it Ralph, Planes and I don't know what else? At least the old Disney left a Snowwhite! A Bambi! A Pinocchio! A Fantasia! A Beauty and the Beast! A Lion King! All timeless masterpieces! Computer animation was good with the first pixar films, but now it's all about money.. I wish Don Bluth could at least continue to make some short films, since he would need a bigger budget for feature films and keep somehow the traditional animation alive in America. Have you realised that now NOONE in USA does hand-drawn animation anymore? None! It's dead. And real pity.. By the way, I don't know if you're aware of it, but in November Mickey's Christmas Carol will be out in bluray, and I really hope it includes Bluth's "Small one" too, as in the DVD.

Why? Why? Why? Spin-offs, prequels, sequels, remakes! Whyyyy??? Well, i've read somewhere that studios don't invest anymore in new ideas, and invest only in something that know it will bring money, since it's not the best period for cinema too..

By the way, for anyone who hasn't seen it, here's a teaser for the new Ghibli film which opens in a week in Japan. It's a somewhat biographic film on the inventor of the zero planes that took part in WWII.

I will never like CG as much as I love hand-drawn animation. Can anyone seriously compare the aesthetics of eg. Bambi with Wreck it Ralph? I totally agree with Don BLuth. Traditional animation has a magic that CG doesn't have. It was unfortunate that Disney chose to "revive" traditional animation with "Princess and the Frog" and now they think that 2d animation doesn't bring money but 3d does. I don't think that was due to the animation, but due to the story. If they had made something equivalent of a Lion King and had huge success, they would continue doing such films. Pixar from what it seems is going downhill too.. I didn't like BRAVE.. Cars 2 is a flop according to many (haven't seen it), Monsters university is not that good (acccording to many again), and now what else we have? Planes? then a sequel to Nemo.. Hmmmmm....

The trailer for that film with Tom Hanks playing Walt Disney and the story around Mary Poppins:

There is that Titan A.E. film from another company, but - although it had its moments - it wasn't so good. For those of you who probably don't know it, you can check Gandahar (or Light years) (1988). A really weird sci-fi animation that is cult. (i would go with the original French version , and with the original score of Gabriel Yared.)

hmmm... Interesting idea. Although I'd prefer if they left Star Wars alone and did a new sci-fi idea..

This comment just made me realize that the Japanese don't seem to be really fond of 3D animation. Well, at least, they haven't done many 3D animation movies. European countries have produced quite a few, but I could hardly name one Japanese 3D animation film. Interesting... Hmmm, you're right! And you would expect otherwise, since from what I believe Japan is so advanced in technology!! Well, they probably know something not getting into 3d until now.. the only Japanese 3d animation I know and have seen is this:

Still waiting for An American Tail (and The Land Before time) to be released in Bluray! We're lucky -those of us - that grew up with magic..

I really miss hand-drawn animation.. At least from USA (because we still have from Japan and Europe). http://www.traditionalanimation.com/2013/30th-anniversary-of-dragons-lair-don-bluth-exclusive/

Of course. the ideal thing would be someone to combine both. It occured to me, how great it would be if Warwick Davis (Willow) had played Frodo. If he was still young that is..

I don't know. Even if they are good actors, to me, it takes away from the believability of the thing. I could never believe that those people in Lord of the Rings were supposed to be dwarfs.

I also appreciate very much the fact that they searched and found so many dwarfs to play in the film, than take non-dwarfs people and make them look like it with effects. Producers and directors were very inventive and creative in those old days. I strongly believe that computers kill creativity, both in films and in music!

Just watched Willow, from the new Bluray I bought! magnificent! Stellar picture and sound!! The James Horner score benefits very much from it! and as Ron Howard said, "story is king". That's why these films last...

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