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hmmm.. i would disagree about Blue Lagoon (i watched "The deep" 2 days ago, but I am not sure if it's classic or not in the sense you mean). The Blue lagoon, at least here in Greece, is one of the most classic films we all remember seeing in our childhood.

So, that includes films that were released when i was eg. 2 years old, or maybe you meant something like Jason said, perhaps after your 10 years (to put it a bit lower than 20)? no, clearly you have a limited memory, but I remember tv and movies from age 4 and on quite well. the thing i meant is: if we put the films we regretted not seeing in the theaters in out entire lifetime, i can't eg put E.T. when i was 2 years old, and I couldn't go anyway..

oh, yes that is in my list too. It's shot in Greece from what I know. well, about Swiss Family Robinson, yes, we don't know the season, but the setting (tropical island) is very summer-y. So i guess I'm asking for films that have a summery feel too.. about classic: yes, we had discussed about this before, i don't remember with whom. I take the term "classic" more generally meaning old films, and from what i had found at that time, both meanings can stand: 1) classic film= old film 2) classic film= old film that was substantial to the medium (cinema)

I was thinking of opening this thread some time ago, but i guess i was influenced now by Joey's thread, and started it now. I believe we all here love movies, some more, some less. I personally love movies more than even going out, or hanging with friends etc.. So, what is the film that started it all for you? The First movie I ever saw at the cinema was "Romancing the Stone", with my parents of course. I can't understand why they took me to that film since I must have been 4-5 years old! (in 1984 I was 4 years old, but if it was released here in Greece even 2 years later, i would be 6 years old tops). The thing I remembered is the crocodiles, and the scene where they were stranded in the aeroplane in the jungle and it was raining outside. That scene had some close face shots, and i was impressed on how huge the faces looked!! i saw the film for the 2nd time, last year in Bluray, and that brought memories...

So, that includes films that were released when i was eg. 2 years old, or maybe you meant something like Jason said, perhaps after your 10 years (to put it a bit lower than 20)?

No I haven't, but I asked for a very specific timeframe. I'm sure there are many summer films from 1990-today, and maybe good ones too, but at this period I'm more interested in watching old films..

Oh ok! Then, that changes everything.. my answer: None.

the second is after 1990! Thanks about the first though. haven't seen it. Although the imdb rating doesn't seem encouraging. has anyone seen Islands in the Stream? Is it a summer film?

The original E.T. (i saw the special edition) The Indiana Jones trilogy The original Star Wars trilogy Ben Hur Amadeus Superman Close Encounters of the 3rd kind (oh they are so many, i can't list them)

Oh, i didn't know such a thread existed. i thought it was "what was the last film you watched". not "bought".

hehe. I thought this was a differenet thread than the "Blurays" thread. Anyway, I got today in my mail Total Recall, Legend and Labyrinth and I'm very excited! I'll probably watch Total recall tonight. although from the bit I browsed, i thought the rear channels would be more active. The only thing i was hearing was a muffled bass sound.

Criterion Blurays are 50% off on amazon!

haha. that was quick! Really??

Can anyone recommend any good - mainly orchestral/symphonic- scores for sports movies of the last decade? (if there are any)

There aren't rules in music. It's just elements that make something more sophisticated than something else.. On that, we DO agree. Ok, i agree there too. The technobabble that you mention helps you understand WHY you like it and WHY this is "better" (aka more sophisticated) than that .

No, Elfman is not the same with Zimmer. Elfman studied music by himself (that doesn't matter to me, if it's something that one can do on his own or go to a school), meaning he can read scores, he knows harmony etc. etc. It's evident from his sketches. But Zimmer doesn't know about these things.. If you hadn't studied you language at all, and you just had an inherent talent of speech, would you be able to express your thoughts eloquently in a piece of paper? it's exactly the same here. Just because someone knows or has the talent to speak, doesn't mean that he can write too.

Drax, it's mostly a matter of education. Don't want to sound elitist towards those that don't have a music education, I really don't, and Thor, I hope you don't take it personally, since the discussion here is mostly around your views. I myself for example can't judge a science project or the aesthetic result of a plastic surgery, since I haven't studied either of them. 15-20 years ago, i hadn't had enough music education yet to properly judge a music composition. Eg. I could tell you that a Vangelis piece is of the same level and musical quality with a Williams piece. But now, after years and years of watching the compositional process and what are the factors that enrich a music piece, I think that i can put things more in the place that they deserve. (still, i can't be a good judge of atonical music, since I haven't studied it much. Meaning, if you show me an atonical piece that is considered a masterpiece, and just a common atonical piece, it's most likely that they will both sound the same to me) That said, I strongly believe that there is no person who has studied music more than 20 years, and will tell you that Zimmer's current music output is of superior quality. I am wondering, is there one? (I'm really asking this, it's not a rhetorical question) Of course still I believe that some of his older scores like the Thin Red Line and the Lion King are masterpieces, but those scores show something that the current scores don't show at all. (not to mention that we're wondering who wrote what exactly and what is the level of participation of the ghost composers)

haven't ever seen the film, nor listened to the soudntrack. just listening to the closing credits. yes, they are good too. They show musical depth!

I haven't heard anything of him except for the Descent. It sounds a pretty good score to me!

it's a thing that's been bugging me a lot too. I can't understand how the same man who wrote such masterpieces like the lion King, or The Thin Red line, writes these latest scores. It seems very inconsistent, which I personally haven't seen in any other film composer's career. eg. Even in the very early John Williams scores, you can see the seed of what's gonna follow.. in Zimmer's output, it seems like 2 totally different composers! at least to me..

Oh yeah? he has said that in an interview? I didn't know it.. Yes, it's a pity most directors go to that direction nowadays. It seems like they're afraid of music somehow in their film. well, anyway, at least i have hundreds of old films to watch and enjoy the music!

So, Thor, let's say that you were the director and had the option today to pick either Williams, or Goldsmith, or Poledouris, or Bernard herrmann (if they were still alive), or Zimmer.. Your first choice would be Zimmer? I know, it's a very hypothetical question, but I'm trying to understand a bit your way of thinking. It would depend on the movie, wouldn't it? I'm talking about the specific movie, Interstellar. I can't imagine what the result would be if he had a composer like Goldenthal, or Korzeniowski, or even Danny Elfman (in a remote style from his Burton-fairytale one)!

I completely completely agree! But the prejudice (either negative, or positive towards a person), is always there in people. Education tries to change that a bit. (meaning if you're educated on something, you can be more impartial - as can be - towards that something) I tried recently to explain to some, that were so enthusiastic about a Williams concert piece I think (but otherwise don't listen to classical music), that if the exact same piece hadn't had the name Williams on it, but the name Zacharia Petrovich (just a random name), not only they wouldn't call it a masterpiece, but they wouldn't even care to listen to it!

So, Thor, let's say that you were the director and had the option today to pick either Williams, or Goldsmith, or Poledouris, or Bernard herrmann (if they were still alive), or Zimmer.. Your first choice would be Zimmer? I know, it's a very hypothetical question, but I'm trying to understand a bit your way of thinking.

I'm partial towards Marlon Brando in general, so... But I'll watch that too for sure. I see it got an oscar for best picture!