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I'm quite ignorant when it comes to soccer (football). My main exposure is in watching my niece play youth sports and coaching my nephew's team last year (a group of five and six year olds). I am enjoying the World Cup. My only fault with is the fact that it is taking place in Korea and Japan. That puts the games on at 11:30 pm and finish about 6:30 am. I have watched a lot of action and on more than one occasion I have fallen asleep at work because of it. My paternal grandparents were both born in Ireland and both of the maternal grandparents were born in Germany. I loved the Ireland/Germany match (rooting for the Irish) and the way that Ireland did not give and eventually scored the winning goal in stopage time. When the game concluded, the Irish players and fans were celebrating as if they had won the game, while the Germans looked like someone had just shot their dog. Yes, the reaction of the Russian fans in Moscow was inexcusible. It's a game! A few years back when a Columbian player put the ball in his own net, he was murdered within a month of returning home. A bit excessive, don't you think? Yes, at times sport brings out the worst in us, but at times it can brign out the best. Let it. England beat Denmark? That won't help me in the office pool. Bruckhorn, rambling

For you Rocky fans, check out Empire Brass' Royal Brass CD. On it are two 15th Century Fanfares, the opening of one of them sounds nearly note for note the same as Fanfare for Rocky. An audio clip is available on Amazon.com. Granted, I knew that Conti was my elder, I just didn't realize just how old he is. bruckhorn.

Cripes, just what we need... That'll probably go straight to Harry's head. Bruckhorn, who thinks Harry is osom and thus is compounding the problem.

I remember reading somewhere that a person reaches their intellectual prime in their forties. In his forties, Williams wrote: Jaws, Star Wars, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Superman, The Empire Strikes Back, Raiders of the Lost Ark, and E.T. The Extra Terrestrial (just to name a few). James Horner will turn 48 this year. In his forties, he's written: not a whole lot that comes close to matching his pre-1991 output. I used to love Horner (and still have quite the affection for the earlier stuff), but I consider him to be one who has come to the point of merely composing by numbers far too often. Yeah, I'll probably buy Windtalkers, listen to it once, and let it collect dust. Bruckhorn

How about a theme for the young Obi-Wan?

Is that legal? When proof-reading papers in college I read several simillar mistakes. Good collection of them are in Richard Leeder's Anguished English. Check it out in your local library. bruckhorn

Harry, don't worry about it. I've learned the hard way that I shouldn't try to stay up all night. Back in college I pulled an all-nighter composing and showed up for a class and.. a pop quiz. Less than thirty minutes after the class was over, the teacher tracked me down at my on-campus job and gave me an impromptu oral quiz. Why? He couldn't make any sense of my written answers. The writing was absolute gibberish. It turns out all these years I've been dyslexic and learned to deal with it, providing I get enough sleep. And as far as some of the things you can do while pulling an all-nighter... Well, it's, uh, best not to fall asleep while otherwise engaged. :oops: Bruckhorn P.S. Do you kids still use Blue Books in college?

And when you teach them orchestration, do me a favor and not spend an entire year on solely Ravel and Debussy. Wagner and Mahler knew a thing, or two, about orchestration, too. And, Ren, you might want to have a little chat with that student who thinks that Williams was a composer... I've seen worse spelling by people in their thirties (at times, even me). I blame spell checkers. bruckhorn

Do you mean official expanded scores, or all versions of expanded scores that include items like the Academy promo of A.I. and more boots than Imelda Marcos had shoes? For example the "expanded" 1941 is usually the "score only" track from either the laser disc or DVD. Best place to check and see what is currently in print: Intrada Records. Screen Achives has at least one boot available on its website. Peace. Bruckhorn, who notices that Harry is nearing a thousand posts on the new board. Oy!

Well, Mr. Potter, you're finally listening to something other than Williams. It must be due to your advanced age. Suggestion for you: go to your local video store and rent Planet of the Apes (Heston version), Logan's Run, and Chinatown. And be sure to listen. Planet of the Apes and Logan's Run were written back in the day when Hollywood was more receptive to scores that pushed the envelope. Chinatown is jazz based, but has one gorgouse trumpet melody (the CD is ~30 min, probably all the music in the film). Definately check out the deconstructing Goldsmith website. Take the tour and listen to the sound clips. Not to commit heresay, but I think that Goldsmith is more eclectic than Williams. And a note on Rudy: when Goldsmith was done conducting it on the scoring stage, the orchestra gave him a standing ovation. "Forget it, Jake, it's Chinatown." Bruckhorn.

Ugh! Maybe time will change your mind. I started out listening to soundtrack music and in learning about it lead me to Classical. That's where the goods are, guys. Listen to the opening movement to Bruckner's Fourth Symphony and trust me, you will hear something quite familliar. How about The Rite of Spring? Some of the percussion licks were referenced by Williams in Jaws. The list goes on and on. And some of these old guys did write movie scores: Prokofiev, Walton, and Vaughan-Williams. Check 'em out. If nothing else, you'll hear where Horner gets a lot of his material... Bruckhorn, who first listened to Bruckner after reading that the Star Wars score was inspired by Bruckner's Symphonies.

Some movies should not be remade. And some can't. Well, maybe not can't, but would cost way too much to do. Think about it, based out what was outlined above, how much do you think the budget would be? Say, in the neighborhood of Lord of the Rings trilogy? Or Episodes I, II, and III? Those two examples have built in appeal and people wanting to see those movies get made. My best friend dragged me to see Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Rings. He will not need to drag me to see the next two-- I am looking forward to them. I would not be interested in seeing a remake of Ben-Hur. The original is a masterpiece. Leave it alone.

This will not win me many friends, but I do think that Williams should rework sections of the scores for all of the Star Wars films once Lucas finishes his "I-really-mean-it-this-time-these-are-the-final-versions-of-these-films-and-I'm-not-going-to-reedit-them-anymore." versions of the films. Think about the original edit of ESB. How magnificent the music built momentum at the end and how badly Lucas %$&@(*ed up by putting shots of Vader walking to his ship. And I've read reports that Lucas shot more material to edit into the original trilogy when filming Episode II... Rescoring sections of the movies that Lucas has decided that need to be altered makes sense. What would you prefer: Williams to rescore, or more explicit music editing along the lines of what appears in Episode II? Bruckhorn, who thinks Lucas needs to hire himself a writer and a director for Episode III and somebody with the confidence to tell him "No." and get him to listen to it.

Binary Sunset from ANH. After 25 years I still consider it one of the best moments of music I have ever heard. It just gets me. Though I gotta admit it, I was quite taken by the rendition of the Force theme that my nephew hummed when he was four. It wasn't quite in key, but impressive, most impressive, but he is not a Jedi yet...

One: I apologize for not putting a question mark in the subject header to imply that I was questioning the status of the 2-cd set. I just need to remind myself that the subject headers do not need to be complete sentaces. Two: While I will admit that the U.S. getting their upset was big (in World Cup action), I think Senegal beating France was a bigger upset. The French look quite flat this time out. I just started a new job last week and my boss is a big soccer (futball) fan. One of my co-workers keeps a copy of the TV schedule in her purse and several others are from other countries (especially Sweden). Gotta keep up on the action to fit in. I'm sure they love my use of hockey terms to describe actions on the field. Three: Though I don't speak Spanish, I really like the way the guy on the Galavision broadcasts (in the US) exclaims "GOAL!" and makes it lasts thirty seconds, or so. At least it feels like it. I think he's trying to complete his goal calls from Germany's 8-0 defeat of Saudi Arabia. Four: I am surprised that my sports rant ended up being the thrust of the thread. Even if it did morph into being about the World Cup. Pretty much anything that brings people together in peace is pretty good in my book. (That's refering to the World Cup, not my rant.) Five: It's after 2 am, I'm tired, making far too many typos, and am due on the golf course in five and a half hours. Beddy-bye from Bruckhorn.

Jim Svejda [sic?] described Schostakovich's Sixth Symphony as "music to go out and shoot yourself by." Is that dark enough for you? As for the Vln Cto, gotta go with the big dog, Beethoven. The Perlman recording. The only concert I have ever walked out of was a performance of it. The soloist substituted his own cadenza (while not unacceptable, was a fat cry from Beethoven's) and the conductor took the third movement at a snail's pace. Quite awful. As far as Tchaikovsky's: yeah I like it, but Conti using it to win himself an Oscar for Original Score for The Right Stuff soured me on the piece. I know, I know, it's not Piotr's fault, but still... Hmmm... No mention of Paganini. Would Bruch's "Scottish Fantasy" be considered a Violin Concerto? And back to the idea of dark music: Nane's "Rhapsodie Pathetique". Just tossing some things into the popper. Bruckhorn

Surely you can't be serious! And Ren's response: Ren, Ren, Ren. You missed it. You should have replied: "I am serious and stop calling me Shirley." Bruckhorn, who knows the guy who has the line "Okay boys, let's take some pictures." in Airplane.

Hey, y'all. A couple of weeks ago I read that the two disc set of Harry Potter was "due in a couple of weeks". Well, it's been a couple of weeks, anybody know its status? Bruckhorn, celebrating 29 posts! (it's my jersey number when I play sports.) (An aside, why was Kobe Bryant wearing a Jets uniform in the post game press conference tonight-- doesn't he know that the Jets play a couple hundred yards from where the Nets play? Guess that's the difference a college education makes.)

I would say unto him, "Dude, I thought you retired. Didn't you put anything away for your golden years? Man, I'm gonna have to work until I've been dead for five years before I can retire." Bruckhorn, who met herr maestro twelve years ago and treated him with the respect due him. Didn't get an autograph, but I did shake his hand and I have the concert on tape. Shhh, don't tell anyone I said that last part.

What movie was this? Young Sherlock Holmes. It came out in 1985. Please don't tell me how young you were back then, And for the new Indy film, how about: The man in the hat is back-- with a walker! Question: are the Indiana Jones books considered canon? If not, Indy can go after Excalibur and end up using it as a cane. I swear, I really am looking forward to it. It'll probably take place in the 1920s and have Ben Affleck in the role of Indy... Bruckhorn, who's pleased that Figo got to 100 posts.

Hmmm. Must listen to Beethoven's Fifth (Sym) and 1941 back to back. Bruckhorn, who was once told to marry a girl, who when told that she was going to hear Beethoven's Fifth, replied "Symphony or Piano Concerto?" (I'm still single and looking for that girl.)

Part of the problem with the sound quality is that the recording was done durring a live show. In your job at the radio station you work at, Figo, I'd imagine that you are well acquainted with the variances of live recordings. When the Clarinet Concerto was recorded, was it with the intention of releasing it publically? And how were the master tapes stored? Some tape, when it ages, gets "sticky". Etc... If you enjoy Williams' "concert hall" music, get it. (I know, the ivory tower folks prefer "art music", but I consider that quite pompous and belittles other compositions.) Peace. bruckhorn

Does this statement include music from Planet of the Apes, Logan's Run, and Alien? Bruckhorn, who likes his Goldsmith pushing the envelope...

Are these the same people who think that McCartney's first band was Wings? bruckhorn, who has all of the Beatles albums. And listens to them, too!

Sousa wrote operettas? Guess that's my something new for today! bruckhorn