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But he won't be the mindless idiot as portrayed in Batman and Robin. Given Nolan's story telling so far, I imagine he'll be like the comic book character, rather cunning and intelligent. I'd snap that trap. Here kitty, kitty, kitty....... I have some milk for you...

Me too. It dawned on me when I took the main rhythmic motive from Carol of the Bells to use as the basis for a piece I was composing. (For the record, there was a woman involved and her favorite Christmas carol was Carol of the Bells and I thought it would be funny to take that motive, slow it down, and see if she recognized it; she didn't.)

Top man! Is there really talk of J.W. inserting Vader's Theme into "SW", or is it speculation? Back when the special editions came out, I read the there was talk about that possibility. That was how many years ago and nothing yet. At this point, I don't think Williams will be rescoring any part of Star Wars (the original story). He's recorded three complete Star Wars scores with the LSO since, so he's had ample chance. Now, Lucas re-editing... Well, with that, anything is possible.

Attack of the Killer Tomatoes

I was working at the movie theater at the time of its release. Boy, did it stink up the joint. Writing of awful sequels: Arthur 2: On the Rocks.

I'd like to apologize for derailing this topic. Anybody mention Caddyshack and The Nutty Professor?

The Godfather and Star Wars would probably be near the top of that list. As for the issue at hand, if A Fish Called Wanda and Fierce Creatures are to be included, then I'll add The Bold and the Beautiful and Two Weeks in Another Town. I've seen more than one write-up indicate that the creative forces behind them considered them such. I don't buy it, but I thought I'd toss them into the ring.

Impressive, most impressive. (Sorry, couldn't resist-- a simple "Wow!" seemed inadequate.) I suggest you search out the local mom and pops print shops. Try you local high school or college and ask them who prints up their football programs-- that kind of company might have the equipment to do your job. Once you find a place that can do it, make sure to mention that this is one of possibly four jobs that you'll need within the next year-- you might get a better price that way.

Why were four bars of "The Olympic Spirit" cut from the 1988 recording?

I would think that depends on when the orchestra was going to practice the music for the concert. The local orchestra where I grew up practices the five evenings prior to each set of concerts. With a big city orchestra, they probably practice during the day and could wait until the day before a concert before running through everything. As it was a benefit, why nor have the assistant conductor take the podium, but still offer a refund to anyone who wants it? And still reschedule the make-up concert. One word for the Maestro: robaxin.

I concur.

I'll believe that this is Spielberg's next movie when there is a report that principal photography has begun. If it gets made, Williams should not score it. It'll probably use cover versions of the Bee Gees songs or there will be pressure to use instrumental versions of the songs as score. Here's hoping that Quint works in more titles of Bee Gees songs into his post on this thread.

Re: Human Target On-line version is same price as physical version. So, for the price of shipping and handling I get: Physical CD's (a plus right there) Liner Notes (No, Bear's blogs aren't enough) 47 more minutes of music! I know I gotta wait a week, but, boy, that's a tough call...

I have read many of the posts here, at FSM, and the site that Lukas linked to and have found a mixed bag of responses. And I would like to add something to the list of contributing factors as to why people think that it is okay to download books, music, and movies off the web: The Public Library. Think about it. It’s been around for decades and as each new form of media has been introduced, they pop up at the library. Want to read the latest newspaper or magazine, sit a spell and enjoy. When I was a kid, I could check out books & LP’s and over the years CD’s, VHS tapes, and DVD’s have been added to the available resources. Now, thanks to the internet, I can download e-books and audiobooks from my library (and I thought being able to renew items on-line was cutting edge). The major differences are availability and duration of possession. You might be surprised at what is available. Back in college I was able to get the sheet music for a piece that Horner wrote back in the ’70’s through the university’s library. A few years ago I obtained, thanks to the local public library, The Day the Universe Changed on DVD when it would have cost $950 for the set and only libraries and schools could buy it. So, some of the obscure film scores that you don’t think would be at your local library could be getable from another one. Would a library buy the Ron Jones box or the Superman blue box? Probably not, but somebody could eventually donate them. When I moved, I severely pared down my possessions and the books, CD’s, and DVD’s that didn’t get bought at the local used stores got donated to the local library. A “Full of Shit” argument? Perhaps, but I thought I would toss it out there anyway. Piracy isn’t going away. As we move to a society that is more digitally based, it’s getting easier to produce illegal copies and with increased data transfer speeds, it’s getting easier to distribute those illegal copies. What are the smaller record labels to do? Hire lawyers to stamp out the pirates? How much money do you think those labels have to spend tilting at that windmill? A supervisor once told me: “Don’t spend $20 tracking down 5.” The small labels can’t afford the legal fees to pursue piracy civilly and it is seen by many as a victimless crime, so it becomes a matter of morality. I know if I found out that my local police were hunting down people who were downloading illegal copies, my first thought would be, “Couldn’t you be doing something more important, like stopping the bums from urinating in the alley behind my work?” As for Lukas quitting: he started Film Score Monthly back in high school and he’s more than a few years out of college. If he quits, what’s he going to do?

Yes, I saw that (I was wearing my reading glasses at the time). Thank you for searching for it. It does not include track listings. On the plus side, most will be known tomorrow. And, I have a board meeting to go to tonight, so I'll be occupied.

Okay, I'll bite. Where did he make this announcement? (Hey, I wear glasses for a reason and that reason is: I'm fuckin' blind.) What about the release of Innerspace am I not remembering...? The studio promoted the hell out of it and then a couple of weeks before the release, they stopped promoting it. Never heard an explanation as to why-- did the marketing department have the wrong release date, figured the market was saturated and people didn't need to be continually reminded about it, or maybe the money ran out. It died at the box office and one of the reasons speculated was that it was due to the curious marketing. I was working at a movie theater at the time and remember talking about it with the manager and fellow peons.

Human Target's release is turning into a bit of an odd duck. The "2-disc" on-line version was supposed to be released on October 05. Thirteen days later and it still isn't available and no official word as to why it hasn't been released nor when it will be. McCreary stated on his website that he would look into it and provide an answer when he had one. There has not been a follow-up. I think the delay is to keep the demand up for the physical version and attempt to sell that out before releasing the on-line version. Since the press release, MV has released one photo of the 3-cd set and has divulged the total time of each disc. That's it. No track listing (with or without track times). No clips to sample on-line (other than what has been available on McCreary's website since he blogged about each episode). The only (highly compressed) samples I've heard have been on "A Fistful of Soundtracks" when they came up in the rotation. And that took hours of listening. (Curious note, that in all that time, they only played one track by Williams-- and they purport to be a fistful of soundtracks; guess they need longer fingers to reach all the way down to the W's.) McCreary has repeatedly stated that the physical version has over an hour more music than the on-line version. According to the press release, the on-line version will be 160 minutes and MV's total time for the first two discs match up with that (okay, MV's times are only 158 minutes and change, but close enough). MV's time for the third disc it 48 minutes; that's a little shy of an hour. But at $24.95 (plus s/h) for a three disc set, a miscommunication concerning total time is quite minor. I am looking forward to getting this title (I have ordered it from DarkDel). However, I find how this has been handled as a strange way of promoting a release. Not as strange as the film release of Innerspace, mind you, but...

Texas justice? Does that start with one of you saying, "Get a rope."? Congrats, gents. P.S. I hope the Rangers beat the Yanks, too.

Well, he's not expendable here.

I'm surprised that with Neil's knowledge of Star Trek, that he would wear a red shirt.

You're being kind, Trent. Over the years, I have seen too many examples of USPS not updating tracking information from when they accept a package until after it has been delivered. Yesterday, when I typed in the tracking number, USPS reported that the number did not exist in their system. Today, it reports that they are expecting the package for shipment. When I first ordered III on CD (in 1990) from the UK, I also placed an order for something that shipped from NYC via USPS on the same day. Guess which got to me first. If I receive the expanded III before next Wednesday, I shall be pleasantly surprised. Just don't expect me to hang out at the mailbox waiting for it.

For those who have received it already: what, no extensive reviews yet? As for mine: got a tracking number yesterday, but USPS doesn't show it as having shipped yet. I'm thinking next Wednesday, at the earliest. Darn.

III I know it isn't the greatest score ever, but it is the piece of music that changed my life. When I first listened to it, I had been playing in the junior and senior high school marching bands for three years, but had been so focused on what I had to do, that I didn't hear what was the band was playing. (Yes, feel free to snicker on how the musicmanship of such ensembles is such that it is highly unlikely that anything produced by them could be, even charitably, called music.) But, just sitting in the back room of the house, listening to that tape, I was agog at what an orchestra could do. That was the day I started listening to orchestral music and enjoying it. I quickly became a soundtrack collector and have been for the last quarter century. So, no matter what, III will always have a special place in my heart. You know, kinda like the song that was playing during my first kiss. Recently my boss cut everyone's hours by 20%, so funds are tight. III was a no-brainer for me; I'm going to need to rewatch Star Trek before deciding on whether to pick up the new VS version. I have the original release and am glad that the new version includes more previously unreleased music than was originally released (somewhere around 50 vs. 46 minutes, I think).

Hasn't yet. The record label maybe dragging its feet due not having decided what else to put on the album, they have decided what else to put on the album but haven't recorded it, or it might be something really weird like JW hearing the recording and has asked that it not be released.

Fifth version of this score for me. Cassette in '85, LP in '86, UK CD in '90, US CD in '91, and now this expanded score. With the job done on remixing TWOK (much clearer than GNP CD or Atlantic LP and Cassette), I am looking forward to listening to this in toto. No samples for me. I wonder do the wankers on the FSM board realize that the score, alternate takes, source music, and the techno-version of the theme won't fit on one disc?