Josh500

In the past few years, I've come to realize that filmtracks.com ALWAYS criticizes JW and emphasizes his weaknesses (if he HAS any, that is). People over there don't seem to understand that ONLY filmmusic aficionandos visit the site, and they don't wanna hear the negative things. They should more emphasize his strengths and talents. That's what I think. Cause everytime I go over there to read a review of one of JW's scores, I'm left with a bad taste in my mouth, kinda regretting having read it in the first place. Case in point, again with RotS. What do you think????

Just as well, I suppose.

No, I'm not satisfied on this, but I've come aways toward understanding why it's the way it is.

I really love this score. My favorite tracks include "Sean's Theme," "Everybody Runs," "Minority Report," "The Eye-Scan" (or whatever it's called), "Anderton's Great Escape," and "Spyders." I give it a 9.

So Doyle will continue scoring the films till the very end or what???

What the hell do you mean???

Did anyone see it yet? So DOES it include footage of Williams conducting the LSO??? Wouldn't surprise me at all if it didn't, but one can hope, right???

Yeah, I guess it's as simple as that. :roll:

What do you think??? I certainly hope so. I think the HP series is the most important thing JW did after Star Wars. It did a lot to make him known among his younger listeners, for one thing, and received two Oscar nominations, for another. I hope he'll return, even if it is to score just the very last installment.

We already have a release date for the OS for WotW, but when was the recording session? As opposed to RotS, of which we got almost daily reports, we didn't have any info on the recording session of WotW. Is JW still writing the score, or is it all wrapped up and recorded??? Does anyone know???

You're right, the statement about A.L. Webber may not have been accurate. But I was simply trying to make a point about JW not being famous enough. It's a fact that people watch a LOT less musicals than movies, and JW has been associated with the most popular movies in history. So I'm just curious why so many people know ALW and so few know JW. Maybe, if JW wrote more songs than orchestral music . . . but who knows??? I think it's a bummer that I have to explain everytime who JW is, whenever someone asks me what kind of music I like to listen.

The studios care about profits. Elfman happens to score more films that bring in huge profits. Especially lately. Hence - he costs more. You can't be serious! Elfman has been recently associated with Spiderman -- that's it. JW has been associated lately with the HP franchise and the Star Wars series, as well as Jurassic Park ten years ago. So who scores more films that bring in huge profits??? Now you gave yourself away!!! Williams only did two films in 2004 and zero in 2003. Elfman did two in 2004 and two in 2003. The combined profits of Elfman's projects brought in much more money than the films Williams scored. The past is irrelevant to the studios. Its what they are doing now that determines how much they are paid. I gotta say (and I agree with Sturgis on this), I don't really believe ya. What about the four Williams did in 2002, then??? Are you saying just because Williams took a year off, he earns a couple of millions less now??? You can't be serious. Also, Williams has got 5 Oscars. Elfman has none. That's gotta have SOME impact in terms of payment!!!

The studios care about profits. Elfman happens to score more films that bring in huge profits. Especially lately. Hence - he costs more. You can't be serious! Elfman has been recently associated with Spiderman -- that's it. JW has been associated lately with the HP franchise and the Star Wars series, as well as Jurassic Park ten years ago. So who scores more films that bring in huge profits??? Now you gave yourself away!!!

That's not exactly true. He promoted the OS of Episode I on radio. He did an interview, and I've got the interview on CD. Very surprising indeed.

Isn't he featured on practically every Spielberg DVD released? Neil True, but they are just extras, and they exit primarily to promote the OS, I suppose. Im thinking of his biography (or musical journey, if you will) of his life, either in book form or on DVD. And there are none of those.

I think its a bit early for this poll, since we havent heard the music in the movie yet (I hope). It may depend on how it works in the movie. (I really love the concert piece of DotF, but didnt like the way it was presented in the film, to wit cut up like a ribbon).

I was just wondering. The average person does not know him and sure, thats partly because he writes film music, which not many people are interested in, but considering the wealth of memorable themes he wrote for movies which are virtually known to ANYBODY, it still amazes me that the name John Williams doesnt ring a bell with more people. I think even Andrew Llyod Webber is more well-known than John Williams, although Webbers only wrote two famous songs (Memory and The Phantom of the Opera). Could it be that John Williams is a bit shy when it comes to publicity? Im starting to think he prefers to be the master working in the background. Also, that may explain why there are virtually no books or DVDs or other material on him and his life. What do you think????

This may be the stupidest thing ever posted here, but I just noticed an odd thing about the Star Wars prequels cover designs. Why does it say on the covers 1. Episode I The Phantom Menace 2. Episode II: Attack of the Clones 3. Episode III (dot) Revenge of the Sith ???? Do you notice the difference??? Just wondering. :roll:

Identify yourself, jwb. What does JWB stand for???? LOL LOL LOL

In recent years, what was your most anticpated score? Mine was definitely PoA. Last year, I just couldnt wait for it to come out. I have never -- and I repeat, NEVER -- looked more forward to getting hold of a soundtrack (or any CD, for that matter) in my life. I guess that was because I have listened to the previous two so many times (I think more than the Star Wars scores) and just couldnt wait to listen to his new ideas in the new HP adventure. Of course, right now, I cant wait for the RotS score, but still PoA will always top MY list.

If thats true, then Natalie Portman gets more for her acting (and she must be)??? Why do Elfman and Davis get the same amount as JW??? I just cant believe that!!! But if it IS true, then I hope JW gets 20 million just from the CD sales!!! (Considering George Lucas earned close to 200 million when TPM came out, its a shame JW gets "only" 3 million.)

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 The whole soundtrack is presently budgeted between two and a half and three million dollars. (from The Final Chapter eBook) I guess the key word here is PRESENTLY. I really think JW gets more . . . its a STAR WARS soundtrack, for Gods sake!!! (sorry I lost my apostrophes)

Okay, so we are all hoping that they are gonna come out, but who believes they actually will?

He gets a one-time fee from George Lucas for writing the score in the first place and considering the budget of the entire movie, that fee must be at least 5 mill., I guess. Also, since John Williams is the producer of the soundtrack albums, he gets royalties for every CD sold. Altogether, I figure he must make about 20 mill. on this one movie (but thats just a guess on the conservative side). P.S. And yes, he earned every penny.

Just curious. How much did he get from George Lucas, and how much will he earn just from the CD sales? I can't even think of a ballpark figure, but I'm thinking he received a couple of millions from GL, and will earn a couple of more millions from the CD sales. Anyone have any clue?