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    Jacck got a reaction from A. A. Ron in John Powell's SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY (2018) - Deluxe Edition 2020 / Intrada 2-CD edition October 31, 2023   
    The whole thing's a mish-mash. Including Alan Silvestri (Marauders Arrive and others), David Arnold (Train Heist), Randy Newman, Don Davis (Into The Maw), Zimmer (Corellia Chase), Powell (imitating Chicken Run, HTTYD), and Williams (obvious). A whole load of 'chicken in the pot', there.
     
    Why do some of Powell's harmonic cadences just sound... wrong? Can anyone explain what the fuck 1:30 [cadence at 1:35] in Flying with Chewie is? This is basic shit. I mean, at least Powell does a better job than Gia. But really this is just a poor state of things from a compositional perspective.
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    Jacck got a reaction from Chen G. in John Powell's SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY (2018) - Deluxe Edition 2020 / Intrada 2-CD edition October 31, 2023   
    It's a Bond (David Arnold / John Barry) meets Goldsmith mashup! Probably due to the temp track.
     
    As for the notes played by the horns, it could really be any generic, octatonic, spy-film motif. (I don't think it is a motif).
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    Jacck got a reaction from Falstaft in THE ADVENTURES OF HAN - 2018 John Williams theme for Solo: A Star Wars Story   
    Given the sloppy performance, and that Powell basically needed it to do the score, I'd say no. It's a courtesy work done in an afternoon. Next.
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    Jacck got a reaction from Joni Wiljami in THE ADVENTURES OF HAN - 2018 John Williams theme for Solo: A Star Wars Story   
    Given the sloppy performance, and that Powell basically needed it to do the score, I'd say no. It's a courtesy work done in an afternoon. Next.
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    Jacck got a reaction from Ricard in THE ADVENTURES OF HAN - 2018 John Williams theme for Solo: A Star Wars Story   
    Given the sloppy performance, and that Powell basically needed it to do the score, I'd say no. It's a courtesy work done in an afternoon. Next.
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    Jacck reacted to mrbellamy in John Powell's SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY (2018) - Deluxe Edition 2020 / Intrada 2-CD edition October 31, 2023   
    The Crait thing, he's most likely talking about that bit from "Adventures of Han" that sounds similar and gets referenced in that sequence. 
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    Jacck reacted to publicist in John Powell's SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY (2018) - Deluxe Edition 2020 / Intrada 2-CD edition October 31, 2023   
    First impressions
     
    Plus side: better than 'Rogue One', minus side, too many simple ostinatos from the RCP toolkit. Powell is a great writer for orchestra and you hear that shining through, especially in some of the more virtuoso brass parts, but somehow too much of it, especially the action music, tends to sound a bit generic, a bit too busy for its own good without doing much, musically. It gets interesting whenever he is allowed to get idiomatically out of the box (Mine Mission!) or it all slows down to, you know, actual 'character-building' music. The Williams theme isn't the maestro's most shining hour, either, though he manages to snuggle in one of his tense conspirator riffs (at 00:38) which is always good. The Williams shish kebab in 'Reminiscence Therapy' would be more fun if TLJ didn't do exactly the same thing 5 months before.
     
    'How to Train Your Dragon', especially part 2, this unfortunately ain't. 
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    Jacck reacted to Alex Shore in John Powell's SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY (2018) - Deluxe Edition 2020 / Intrada 2-CD edition October 31, 2023   
    Damm! there's a great homage to Britten's Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra (trumpet section) on "Into the Maw" 
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    Jacck reacted to The Great Gonzales in John Powell's SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY (2018) - Deluxe Edition 2020 / Intrada 2-CD edition October 31, 2023   
    Gentlemen, don't state your personal top 10 as if it were the objective standard. Thank you.
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    Jacck reacted to Lewya in John Powell's SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY (2018) - Deluxe Edition 2020 / Intrada 2-CD edition October 31, 2023   
    Not even close, it isn't even in the top 10 scores of the year so far.
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    Jacck reacted to The Great Gonzales in John Powell's SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY (2018) - Deluxe Edition 2020 / Intrada 2-CD edition October 31, 2023   
    Yeah, But Giacchino did have Williams saying his score sucked!
    I could pick them out, but I couldn't really tell what they were, for example I think I might have Chewie's theme and the Love theme mixed up right now
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    Jacck reacted to leeallen01 in John Powell's SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY (2018) - Deluxe Edition 2020 / Intrada 2-CD edition October 31, 2023   
    So...I check out this thread to see any new discussions on the score, and instead I end up crawling through 3 pages of people spewing their insults at Giacchino's Rogue One. 
     
    I guess people forgot how Giacchino didn't have two main themes written for him by Williams, and about 50 weeks more to score the film...
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    Jacck reacted to Taikomochi in John Powell's SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY (2018) - Deluxe Edition 2020 / Intrada 2-CD edition October 31, 2023   
    Would definitely like to see timestamps for Powell’s themes. They don’t quite pop the same way Williams’ do aside from the Marauders material
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    Jacck reacted to Incanus in THE ADVENTURES OF HAN - 2018 John Williams theme for Solo: A Star Wars Story   
    I have to say that Williams still has the knack for writing the catchiest of melodies. This Han tune has been playing in my head ever since I first heard it. Hummable, quite hummable I say.
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    Jacck reacted to artguy360 in THE ADVENTURES OF HAN - 2018 John Williams theme for Solo: A Star Wars Story   
    JW's track is sonically very different than the rest of the OST. You can hear that it was recorded by a different orchestra in a different studio. I wish Powell recorded and slightly reorchestrated JW's arrangement to meld it better with the rest of the score. As is, the first track sounds like a demo. It really reminds me of Joe Hisaishi's image albums for each Ghibli score compared to the actual OSTs.
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    Jacck reacted to Incanus in THE ADVENTURES OF HAN - 2018 John Williams theme for Solo: A Star Wars Story   
    The Adventures of Han feels to me like a collection of ideas associated with Han Solo, the A- and B-themes with different dramatic purposes and swashbuckling exciting sounding action music to characterize his often dangerous exploits. In a way a sort of thematic manual for Powell to use in his score in ways he saw fit. And as such a composite composition it feels akin to the Rebellion Is Reborn suite from the Last Jedi which combined Rose's Theme and Ahch-To/Luke in Exile Theme in a similar economic fashion.
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    Jacck reacted to mrbellamy in THE ADVENTURES OF HAN - 2018 John Williams theme for Solo: A Star Wars Story   
    I'm not surprised by some of the criticisms I'm seeing about the score being too "modern" and RCPish, I think that was pretty inevitable around here but I think that stuff is generally handled in kind of fleeting and novel ways for SW. It's just coloring outside the lines a little, doesn't feel like a fundamental change to me.
     
     
    Somehow I'm not surprised that a piece as boisterous and hyperactive as "Adventures of Han" is still too weaksauce for you!
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    Jacck reacted to crumbs in THE ADVENTURES OF HAN - 2018 John Williams theme for Solo: A Star Wars Story   
    Williams probably wrote it in an afternoon!
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    Jacck reacted to The Great Gonzales in THE ADVENTURES OF HAN - 2018 John Williams theme for Solo: A Star Wars Story   
    Williams' number 1 die hard fan vs. Powell's Number 1 diehard fan: the battle of the ages!
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    Jacck reacted to YoYoMama in THE ADVENTURES OF HAN - 2018 John Williams theme for Solo: A Star Wars Story   
    On my first listen. Adventures of Han is good JW material, maybe a little directionless but still very good.
     
    Holy fuck is John Powell frenetic. I love some of his orchestrations but I HATE the generic percussion loops that are all over the score. The rythym in the second track is ripped directly from Horner's Avatar score, which worked because of the tribal imagery, but here it makes the score feel very generic because it's so overused to create tension nowadays. Want a good example of how to use percussion to create tension? Duel of the Fates. There's almost zero percussion in it except at really poignant moments, because it relies almost solely on real tones to create the tension. 
     
    Aside from that, I really like how the score sounds like a classic hollywood score at times. Some of the softer moments are quite nice (when Powell slows the fuck down for a second) The throwbacks are a nice welcome, but when you place them toe to toe with the new music it makes the new music sound VERY generic. 
     
    Powell for the love of god get your hand out of the percussionist's panties please. 
     
    I give the score a solid B-
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