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BLUMENKOHL

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  1. No, it's not ironic. Most film composers "steal" snippets of other's works. The problem with Horner is his lack of reworking on those themes borrowed from others.  

    The four-note "danger" motiv, which opens "Willow" and is used ostinato in "Troy" (to mention only two examples) is taken from Rachmaninov's first symphony. The problem is not the borrowing (actually it's only four notes) but Horner's obsesion with that melody, which appears in most of his action scores.

    I am not sure, but the fanfare-like theme used in "Troy" is an intelligent rework of the trumpet melody that Shostakovich used in his Fifth symphony, and it is my favorite "stealing" by Horner.

    When Williams borrows musical ideas, he disguises them with contemporary harmonies, rythms and orchestrations, but Horner usually leaves them just as he found them.

    Exactly. :|

  2. Well I thought the rendition of the Imperial March in the credits track...the first two loud bombastic times and the last time at the end were superb.

    The best, only behind the one in "Battle of Hoth" and "Aboard the Executor"

    The Conveyor Belt, Yoda and the Younglings and even the Arena/Battle were all quite frankly..."not so bad" at all.

  3. Actually I disagree. Whoaa.

    I don't feel like either of what people consider as Voldemort's theme (the three note SS motif, and the He Who Must Not Be Named theme), would really fit the whole Voldemort sequence in the movie....

    To be honest, I think Doyle's rendition of the events fits quite perfectly...

    I don't know maybe Johnny could have come up with something just as perfect with his own theme...but from what I've heard of his theme for Voldemort...I prefer Doyle's approach.

  4. I agree with Mr. Cosman.

    Except I haven't heard Solomon or Supergirl.

    And I still prefer Williams.

    - Marc

    You are still young, so you have plenty of discovering to do, :|

    As for preferring one over the other.

    I've never really understood this need in the filmscore community to try and decide which composer is the better one.

    Both have radically different styles and both use(d) a different method of film scoring.

    I'm glad the music of both composers has wound up in my life, deciding who of the 2 is superiour really is not a priority.

    Very well said...

    My priorities are enjoying to the output of both the giants to the fullest extent.

    Both have these radically different styles, and yet when you think about the films they've scored, you can imagine how each could bring strengths the other lacks to the film if they'd switches places.

    As for themes I'd say Goldsmith's Klingon theme is as memorable (as in having the potential to be remembered if heard alone, without the movie) and hummable as William's most remembered anf famous, which is: Vader's Theme...but obviously, Vader's theme will be much more easily recognized and remembered...because it's Star Wars....

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