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    Spielberg and Williams

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    Ummm... I received the soundtrack for A.I. for my b-day on Tuesday and in it Spielberg mentions how it's his 17th film with John Williams. Picked up Catch Me If You Can today and Spielberg comments about it being their 20th film together. Am I missing something here? I thought that Minority Report was the only other film Speilberg did with Williams between A.I. and CMIYC? Any help with my poor math skills would be appreciated. Thanks.

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    ANH Temp Track

    in JOHN WILLIAMS

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    Actually, if I remember correctly, Williams mentioned in that French magazine interview a couple of years ago that the Jawa scenes were tracked with Ravel's "Bolero" which Williams seemed to have found kind of funny. He then scored the Jawa scenes with what would later become the March of the Villains from Superman (Lucas said it was too bouncy and cutesy and asked him to rescore it).

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    'Chamber of Secrets' Running Time-160 mins

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    I think that this whole argument is kind of pointless. There are movies like Gone With the Wind which run over 3 hours but are gripping and entertaining every second, while there are shorter films like Jurassic Park III, which was only 90 minutes, which are boring and redundant. As someone else posted earlier, it's not the quantity but the quality.

    Dole

    Indy 4 and SW 3 news

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    I got this from theforce.net:

    -Spielberg has agreed to shoot Indy 4 digitally according to Rick McCallum.

    -George Lucas recently told Samuel L. Jackson that he'll be the main character who dies in Episode III so his death will have to be good.

    Speculation: I guess Padme lives then, which is the way I'd always hoped it would be. Much sadder to think of her dying a broken woman in exile, having lost her husband, her son, and her government.

    More Speculation: This is just a random thought, but I think I have a way to make all three of the prequels really great. What if Jar Jar is actually allied with Palpatine? Hear me out. Who just happened to tag along with the meddling Jedi ambassadors in TPM? Who almost gets Qui-Gon run over by a Federation transport? Who gave extra power to Palpatine in AOTC? Who broke (sabotaged???) one of the repair astro droids in Amidala's ship? Who dumped the Gungan's artillary boomas in TPM, hampering their ability to conduct a fighting retreat? Honestly, think about it. Wouldn't it be a great twist to find out the the dumbest, clumsiest character in the films is actually the cleverest and most manipulating? Maybe he was miffed at the Naboo for their treatment of the Gungans pre-TPM and old Palpy promised a way (Federation occupation) to get back at the Naboo. I mean he has to be smart or at least sly. Why the heck else would anyone elect/appoint Jar Jar as a representative in the Galactic Senate? He's a crafty, manipulative Gungan. (I don't really believe any of this, but I'm bored and am desparately trying to resolve/explain Jar Jar's existence in some meaningful way!).

    -Dole

    IMAX AOTC Possible Edits

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    Ricard - Who is beginning to have a new deja-vu feeling  

    Ricard II - Who knows that the deja-vu will continue with the rest of the posts.

    I know. Sorry. Everytime I think about writing about AOTC I try to stop myself but it's too hard. You should ban all conversation about Star Wars period. :sleepy:

    Dole

    IMAX AOTC Possible Edits

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    AOTC represents misexecution at its worst, not because it trascends TPM in this respect, but because the opportunities foregone were all the more substantial.

    I couldn't agree more. When I walked out of the theater after seeing AOTC on opening day I thought it was much worse than TPM because Lucas had a better storyline and better actors and blew it all on a horrible script and subpar directing. I dislike the movie because of what it could have been more than for what it is. What a wasted opportunity.

    Dole

    IMAX AOTC Possible Edits

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    I just saw a segment with Ron Howard on CNN where he was talking about redoing Apollo 13 for IMAX this month. He mentioned that the longest possible running time for an IMAX movie is 2 hours and so he had to trim Apollo 13 by about 12 minutes. If this is true across the board, then Lucas will have to cut about 20 minutes from Attack of the Clones if I'm not mistaken. Does anyone have any more info on this? If it's true, can you imagine the music edits in the IMAX version? I just hope that if it's true Lucas decides to cut out the love story. Who knows, it may be a decent movie then.

    Dole

    Indy 3 Themes

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    These are the themes in Last Crusade as far as I know:

    1. Cross of Coronado theme: spanish sounding music in "Indy's 1st Adventure."

    2. Henry's Theme(father/son theme): theme predominent in "Keeping up with the Joneses" and is also heard at the beginning of "Canyon of the Moon" and "Finale" (when Henry tells Indy to "let it go")

    3. Grail Theme: Heard in "The Penitent Man Will Pass"

    4. Knight/Crusaders Theme: Heard in "End Credits" "Ah Rats" and "Keeper of the Grail"

    5. Nazi Theme: heard in "Brother of the Cruciform Sword"

    6. Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra-used throughout movie for father/son antics/misadventures

    So why were the end credits changed in AOTC?

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    I hope we get some new themes in Episode III. I'd really like the majority of the end titles to be a medley of "new" music like the end titles in the original trilogy instead of cut up concert versions or old music. How about the final scene of the film (the twin sunsets if we're going with Spielberg-Fan's idea which I like quite a bit) being scored with a rendition not of the force theme but with a sad yet forceful rendition of Luke and Leia's theme from ROTJ?

    AOTC: a track-by-track rating.

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    1. Main Title/Ambush= 5 (since the first part's music from TPM)

    2. Love Theme= 10

    3. Zam/Chase= 9

    4. Yoda= 7

    5. Departure= 6 (I thought this was the weakest part but it's grown on me)

    6. Anakin and Padme= 8

    7. Jango's Escape= 6

    8. Meadow Picnic= 10

    9. Bounty Hunter's Pursuit= 4

    10. Return to Tatooine= 8

    11. Tusken Camp= 8 (love the dark version of Shmi's theme at the end)

    12. Love Pledge/Arena= 10

    13. Finale= 9

    Average= 7.69

    So why were the end credits changed in AOTC?

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    I think episode 3 should end with despair, anguish and the notion that all is lost. The Imperial march is more of a fanfare.... It needs to be dark dark dark!

    I actually think the end credits music in Episode III should end like ESB, with a mixture of darkness and hope. Perhaps a medley of Luke's, Leia's, and Vader's theme rounded off by a strong statement of the rebel fanfare to remind everyone that not all is lost since Luke and Leia, the saviors of the galaxy, have been born and that a rebellion is forming that will one day take down the jsut established evil empire.

    Jedi Council Question

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    Ken has been Williams' editor for decades and I think that they respect one another. I wouldn't blame Wannberg for the bad edits because he has to do his best to fit the pre-existing music into the picture any way he can. I think he does what he is told to do by the directors etc. I don't think that he independently decided to screw with The Lost World dino hunt music or to cut off the end of the end titles for Attack of the Clones. I expect he was forced to do this by others (Spielberg, Lucas, etc). Williams was pretty upset with the edits in Phantom Menace and I doubt that if it was soley Wannberg's fault that he'd still be around. Plus, look at other Williams' movies in which the score hasn't been tampered with. Wannberg has done all of those as well. It seems to be a problem unique to Star Wars which has more to do with the fact that he's not scoring the final version of the film because Lucas and Burtt can't keep their fingers off the editing machine after the recording sessions have wrapped.

    Attack of the Clones already at the dollar theatre

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    So did Lucas run over your dog or something?

    No, but to quote Rhett Butler ffrom Gone With the Wind "waste always makes me angry" and I think that Lucas has wasted a lot of the great potential for the SW prequels and I think he did it for marketing reasons (Jar Jar, editing good scenes for a PG rating, fart jokes, bad kiddie-friendly love story, etc.) and so I find it ironic that AOTC is nowhere near as commercially successful as the other SW films and for that matter, TPM doesn't fare as well when you take into account inflation.

    Attack of the Clones already at the dollar theatre

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    I actually wish AOTC would have gone to the dollar theater earlier. I'm glad Spiderman beat the crap out of AOTC. I'm glad it's struggling to break 300 million and I hope Harry Potter II or Signs or some other movie this year knocks Episode II down another peg on the highest grossing films of the year list simply because I'm tired of Lucas (and even Williams in that STARFIX article) defending the prequels with massive box office numbers. Maybe Lucas will now understand that these aren't great movies and he's not doing his best job as a director if Episode II only makes him 1 billion dollars instead of the 10 billion that TPM raked in! If he constantly talks about box office success=great movie, then I say hit it where it hurts him...in the pocketbook. Every SW film until AOTC was the highest grossing film of the year and I hope that that's something Lucas will keep in mind since reviews and movie critics and fans seem to hold no sway.

    AOTC Oscar nods

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    It's too bad they don't give out Oscars for best adapted score anymore (e.g. Fiddler on the Roof). AOTC would win hands down since the score in the film is mostly "adapted" from The Phantom Menace. AOTC get nominated for costuming, cinematography, art direction etc. since TPM wasn't.

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