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Technically Disney didn't inherit A New Hope until they bought Fox, I believe I knew there had to be something like Nixon in there. I guess that and War Horse are the only two films he scored to be affiliated with Disney in any way before they acquired Lucasfilm. Lincoln was finished before the acquisition but released afterward. If he'd scored Bridge of Spies, that would have been a third under that Disney/DreamWorks deal via Touchstone. I guess The BFG remains the only one in his career that was produced, branded, and released worldwide as a bona-fide Disney movie.

It's this one

So I actually have had this box set for years: But I still have not watched a single film from it. I guess I never knew where to start. Maybe this thread will finally give me an excuse to just try them all, unless someone has a favorite from this list:

Just finished listening to the whole series and agree with the above! Thanks a lot, Thor. #1 favorite discovery was the "Moment of Decision" prologue, you hyped it up in your intro and it didn't disappoint. I'm definitely converted to the cause of an Alcoa Premiere box set. Love that Tammy Grimes theme too, and I wish I could see Inside the Movie Kingdom! I'm actually not sure I'd ever gotten around to "Scherzo for Today" from the NBC News pieces either? Or it's been awhile but that's a fun one. This was also a reminder for me that I gotta finally watch those Amazing Stories episodes....I guess part of me has always liked knowing there were still two more Spielberg/Williams collabs just sitting out there. One non-Williams piece of trivia I wanna nitpick was about the Heidi Game. You said that it went into "overtime" which implies the game was tied and Heidi interrupted who won (which still probably would have made US football fans really mad) but it was even funnier than that. The game was standard but just ran a little long into Heidi's premiere, and since it appeared the Oakland Raiders were going to lose, anyway, it might not have caused such a ruckus...except in those final 61 seconds on the clock that Heidi covered up, the Raiders unpredictably scored two touchdowns and won. You probably already know this but that's what made it extra crazy. Anyway, late to the party but superb. As a JWFan for so many years it was kind of touching in a way to finally listen to you with all this runway on a subject you've always been frustrated isn't one of the bedrocks of this forum really appreciate you collecting all of this and sharing. I'm sure I will be listening again, especially to help enhance my reading of the big JW biography next year. I'm glad I was able to listen on Google Podcasts in its dying days....it's the only app that had Celluloid Tunes, I guess because it works differently than other podcast catchers. I will miss it! But it made it slightly more convenient to download the show and save for the future

Was Lincoln the first one where JoAnn Kane Music Service effectively became his "orchestrators" and he just sent the sketches over to them to do that work of extrapolating the parts and full score? I feel like everything since then besides Star Wars and Indy hasn't had a credited orchestrator. I also have wondered, what's the significance of John Williams being a credited orchestrator on those four sequel scores with William Ross, if the process was pretty much the same as always?

I wonder which of those books has been there the longest that he still hasn't read

Name your price, @Ricard

Had to be Dennis the Menace. That one definitely stuck out. My 90s and 00s were actually quite Goldsmith-less otherwise tbh. I know I watched Innerspace, Mulan, and Looney Tunes: Back in Action but I didn't really recall the music so much, he wasn't someone I explored even in my teens as a burgeoning film score geek. I really learned about Goldsmith almost entirely as a young adult. I didn't even recognize the Gremlins theme when I finally got around to checking out the movie some years ago. I've still never seen Secret of NIMH or Small Soldiers and was never a Star Trek kid. Besides Dennis, the other Goldsmith pieces that bring me nostalgia are his Universal logo and Fanfare for Oscar, which I really miss hearing on nomination morning nowadays. I've actually taken to watching the video of him conducting it on YouTube now before they announce it. I also remember instantly loving the brief Patton reference from John Williams's Oscar tribute to film music at the time. But took me years to finally get around to the film and score.

He tagged that photo with #filmmmusicinconcert #fiddlerontheroof

Yeah you're right, they just had a still portrait of him that year

There are only a handful of his concertos and other non-film things that I regularly go back to, but I do always look forward to them and am for sure intrigued by the piano concerto. My #1 hope right now, film or not, is that he'll be around to write something for the LA Summer Olympics in 2028.

Of course. My John Williams fandom will never die. Even not counting all the mysterious music that has never been heard, there is a ton of Williams music already available I still have yet to hear, or I'm unfamiliar with having only listened once or twice. I've already had the experience many times of scores I think I know well but I hear cues with new ears that never quite registered before. That will continue. But there ain't no Williams score like a new Williams score, no matter where it ranks!

Beating a dead horse but I'll take whatever I can get. I don't especially need more franchise blockbuster scores either, after the decade he just gave us and considering he seems over it. But a third Jurassic could be something. I would also be happy with another WWII era drama. The MOST exciting thing would be an original film in an unexpected genre with an unexpected director, but I'm completely at peace with that never happening again and have been for years. Overall even though we still have more to hear from his oeuvre as a whole, for my own sanity I'm going along assuming that we now have John Williams's complete filmography, weird as it is to say. The only real hope I'm allowing myself is for Spielberg to eventually get going on something and just see what happens.

Alfred Newman fans in 1994: So Williams already has 5 Oscars? At this rate he will surpass Newman in a decade or two...

Robbed for Thomas and the King! If only it had made it to Broadway Going back THREE decades, The Lion King, Titanic, and Lord of the Rings are the only winners that stand out to me as film scores "in the pantheon" La La Land is probably the most recent one that could be broadly accepted as a movie famous for its original music. I'm not quite sure what its shelf life has been but I think it's still a solid namedrop or something you could play at the Oscars. Pretty much any snippet from "Epilogue" would do. Pocahontas for its song melodies. Up qualifies too. There are a few others I think you could make arguments for but you're getting into deep cut territory away from something EVERYONE would recognize. Most of John Williams's nominations in the last 30 years would fall into this category as an Oscar winning score, including Memoirs of a Geisha which wouldn't stick out any more than Atonement does. Not to incite a riot, but I think you could reasonably list off The Social Network in an Original Score introduction and I think enough people watching would get why. But only certain types of cinephiles would remember a score piece if you used it in a montage or something. It's not really music for an awards ceremony lol. Shakespeare in Love's theme used to be an Oscar staple but haven't heard them whip it out in awhile. Probably forgotten now. Actually I'm realizing it has the Harvey Weinstein stink so it must be buried for good.

I thought the coverage of the In Memoriam was slightly better than previous years but yeah, still a lot of people who went by while in a stage wide shot, and some names and faces were obscured entirely by whatever was onstage because of the angles. It's irritating that it feels like the deceased are being upstaged...everyone agrees the In Memoriam should be there, why distract from it? What was so wrong with just putting together a nice montage? The way they ended this In Memoriam is still more creative and moving to me than anything they've tried with it recently:

If he actually wasn't there and finally decided he'd had enough, it's honestly amazing he made it this far lmfao I don't wanna read too much into these things but all his quotes really feel like turning 90 has done a number on him, in terms of reprioritizing everything about his life and career. He doesn't have six months to spare for your dumb movie, he can't afford to waste a day for the ol Oscar show. He's on Johnny Time now.

I've honestly never felt like he's gotten remotely as close to winning as he was for Memoirs. That was in the bag. Seems fine here

Zimmer?

I really don't think the fact that it was orchestral and traditional was what people found meh about DoD.

Probably just the side effect of Dial of Destiny looking underwhelming with four Best Picture nominees

Not to mention PT

Wes Anderson finally has an Oscar

Nice John Williams shout-out from Kris Bowers