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    crumbs got a reaction from bollemanneke in John Williams' DISASTER MOVIE SOUNDTRACK COLLECTION (Poseidon Adventure, Towering Inferno, Earthquake) 4CD Box Set from La-La Land Records NOW AVAILABLE   
    The problem with KOTCS is the awful OST. One monotonous underscore cue after another that suffocates the listening experience. It's a terrible representation of the overall score (but maybe a good reflection of the snooze-inducing movie).
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    crumbs reacted to Arpy in John Williams' DISASTER MOVIE SOUNDTRACK COLLECTION (Poseidon Adventure, Towering Inferno, Earthquake) 4CD Box Set from La-La Land Records NOW AVAILABLE   
    Unpopular opinion, but as much as I adore TFA's score I had a similar reaction to it as I did with KotCS. Neither are "autopilot" scores, like KotCS is often referred to, but both I feel are attempts at trying to rekindle the magic and nostalgia of a time past that can't ever be reached. So when the Raiders March pops in and out I felt like it was tired - and that's not Williams' fault! It's a case of obligatory callbacks for nostalgia and Spielberg's insistence. A few, not all, statements of Luke's Theme in TFA, especially early on began to feel stale in an otherwise colourful and lively score.
     
    I think I prefer hearing Williams work with and mould his new material for each film, and to me that's why the highlights in both TFA and KotCS are the new themes.
     
    Both scores are great in their expanded forms.
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    crumbs reacted to Gruesome Son of a Bitch in John Williams' DISASTER MOVIE SOUNDTRACK COLLECTION (Poseidon Adventure, Towering Inferno, Earthquake) 4CD Box Set from La-La Land Records NOW AVAILABLE   
    It's a boring score for a boring movie but it's like Williams didn't even try to make it entertaining on album but rather opted for the absolute worst presentation possible. One of his worst albums by far.
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    crumbs reacted to mrbellamy in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Final Predictions (NO SPOILERS)   
    Rey and Ren’s themes over the DotF ostinato would probably be pretty rad tbh.
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    crumbs got a reaction from Cerebral Cortex in Early alternate version of The Jedi Steps?   
    After a suggestion from @BrotherSound, I tweaked the placement of the alternate version and think this fits substantially better! What does everyone think?
     
    Crossfaded into the film version to show how Williams might have intended this version of the cue to continue
     
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    crumbs reacted to Datameister in A Williams hallmark: the brass combo for characters dying/falling   
    Probably temp. I never really picked up on that particular similarity either, but it's totally there.
     
    In any case, this is definitely a very Star Wars thing, more so than a general Williams thing, though it certainly fits within his overall style. The TPM and AOTC examples are especially prototypical.
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    crumbs got a reaction from Tydirium in A Williams hallmark: the brass combo for characters dying/falling   
    We need a master spreadsheet of every cue Williams wrote for someone dying!
     
     
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    crumbs reacted to Edmilson in No Time To Die (James Bond #25)   
    Indeed. Pretty much every movie of the Craig era the mission have to be "personal" for him. He and the bad guy have to be connected by something of the past, that is coming back to haunt him, yada yada...
     
    It's so simple: there's a bad guy with a plan that will be terrible to lots of people, so Bond has to travel to exotic locations all over the world, fight henchmen and thwart the villain's megalomaniacal plan. But I guess Austin Powers made this formula looks a little ridiculous, so now they have to make everything "dark, realistic and relatable".
     
    It's like DC: after Chris Nolan, every DC movie has to dark, grim, realistic, relatable and disturbing, even though they are about a dude who dresses like a Bat and fights a psycho with clown make-up and an alien who can fly, shoot lasers and wears a blue uniform.
     
    #MakeBondandDCfunagain
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    crumbs reacted to carlborg in A Williams hallmark: the brass combo for characters dying/falling   
    Great catch! Never noticed this before now
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    crumbs got a reaction from BrotherSound in Early alternate version of The Jedi Steps?   
    Yeah it's possible JJ just wanted to hear an alternative approach for Luke's reveal, but they ultimately settled on JW's original version.
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    crumbs reacted to BrotherSound in Early alternate version of The Jedi Steps?   
    @crumbs Thanks for trying that! It seems to work fairly well.
     
    The film version of Jedi Steps is in the leaked score and dated 5/29/15, which would make it one of the earlier cues to be completed (the dates range from May through November) so I suspect if this was indeed intended for this scene, it was recorded as a possible insert later on.
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    crumbs got a reaction from A Ghost From Highwood in Star Wars IX The Rise of Skywalker (JJ Abrams 2019) - NO SPOILERS ALLOWED   
    Looks like Klaud's role was actually expanded heavily in the October reshoots. New shot released:
     

     
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    crumbs got a reaction from carlborg in Early alternate version of The Jedi Steps?   
    After a suggestion from @BrotherSound, I tweaked the placement of the alternate version and think this fits substantially better! What does everyone think?
     
    Crossfaded into the film version to show how Williams might have intended this version of the cue to continue
     
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    crumbs got a reaction from carlborg in Early alternate version of The Jedi Steps?   
    Yeah I reckon if it kept going a few more seconds, we'd hear the Binary Sunset solo as it appears in the film. 
     
    We know from TFA's lead French Horn player that the Binary Sunset solo used in the final film was carried over from the original recording, and didn't need to be re-recorded when Williams revised the rest of the cue. 
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    crumbs reacted to Alex in The Rise of Skywalker (Disney Records OST coming Friday, December 20th, 2019)   
    I saw TLJ before listening to the soundtrack. I can 100% recommend doing this. I remember the goosebumps forming when the Tie Fighter music came on.
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    crumbs got a reaction from A Ghost From Highwood in The Force Awakens SCORE Discussion (Film Spoilers Allowed)   
    Interesting, not a surprise either. He could've just written 4 short sentences on note paper and handed it to an orchestrator, considering it was comprised entirely of existing music. 
     
    "Standard Luke fanfare, just slower. A bit of Leia's Theme. Track the whole battle cue, then the entire Throne Room suite. Now what's Steven's next film?"
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    crumbs reacted to Arpy in The Official La-La Land Records Thread   
    La-La Land send their regards. *slashes your wallet*

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    crumbs got a reaction from DarthDementous in Early alternate version of The Jedi Steps?   
    After a suggestion from @BrotherSound, I tweaked the placement of the alternate version and think this fits substantially better! What does everyone think?
     
    Crossfaded into the film version to show how Williams might have intended this version of the cue to continue
     
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    crumbs reacted to Incanus in John Williams' DISASTER MOVIE SOUNDTRACK COLLECTION (Poseidon Adventure, Towering Inferno, Earthquake) 4CD Box Set from La-La Land Records NOW AVAILABLE   
    I still can't fathom why the heck did Williams decide to cut more than half of the Jungle Chase from the OST. Oh wait I actually can. He probably thought that the opening half which has prominent use of the Raiders March didn't showcase his new themes enough. Plus they had to have room for yet another re-recording of the concert version of the Raiders March on the album.
     
    But back to the topic at hand. I think it will be interesting to hear the original film version of the Earthquake score for the first time. I haven't seen the film and have ever heard the OST album with its sound effects and pop-inflected tunes so I wonder if the rest of the film score just follows suit or will there be more orchestral suspense and action material.
     
    All the three scores seem to be very similar in how they balance the pop sensibilities with the full dramatic orchestral scoring and how the diegetic source music or very source music like underscore seems very prominent to give these disaster settings more of a verisimilitude rather than wanting to accent everything with a dramatic orchestra, reserving such musical histrionics for the most important moments.
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    crumbs reacted to mrbellamy in The Rise of Skywalker (Disney Records OST coming Friday, December 20th, 2019)   
    I would have been like this the whole way home 
     

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    crumbs reacted to AzOutcast in The Rise of Skywalker (Disney Records OST coming Friday, December 20th, 2019)   
    That was me who picked up TLJ at Epcot! And only because someone here posted that SOMEONE ELSE on another forum got it early at Epcot (which, of course, is always how these things go). I remember driving over to Epcot after work one day and getting there about 20 minutes before closing, thinking I was a complete freaking idiot...until I saw it on the shelf. That was an exciting drive home.
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    crumbs reacted to TownerFan in 2020 Oscars - Best Original Score predictions   
    It seems 2019 has been a pretty decent year for Hollywood film music. Quite a few interesting scores both by veterans and emerging composers, so I think there is latitude to see a nice group of people being nominated at next year's Oscars for Best Score. Of course we haven't heard some of those yet (mostly Williams' TROS and Tom Newman's 1917), but it's not hard to imagine they will end up in many Best of the Year lists. So, based on award buzz, industry talk and my own common sense, here's my predictions of which scores will be nominated next January (which are not necessarily my own favourites of course):
     
    Joker - Hildur Guðnadóttir
    Marriage Story - Randy Newman
    1917 - Thomas Newman
    Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - John Williams
    Us - Michael Abels
     
    Runner-ups:
     
    Avengers: Endgame - Alan Silvestri
    Frozen II - Christophe Beck
    Little Women - Alexandre Desplat
    Toy Story 4 - Randy Newman
     
    Potential Threats:
     
    Harriet - Terence Blanchard
    A Hidden Life - James Newton Howard
    How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World - John Powell
    The Irishman - Robbie Robertson
    Jojo Rabbit - Michael Giacchino
     
    The most likely winner imho is Guðnadóttir's Joker and it's easy to imagine why: the film was beloved by critics and audience, the score got mentioned and noticed by many people, and Hildur's popularity skyrocketed thanks to this score and her work on Chernobyl (plus, she's a woman, and we know how this also plays a role in Hollywood's politics nowadays). But perhaps this is going to be finally Tom Newman's time for his long overdue statuette and the score for Sam Mendes' war epic got a lot of positive buzz and mentions in the first reviews that came out last week. However, Randy Newman's exquisite Marriage Story is a major threat, as it's a great score by a beloved industry veteran who still has to win for original score. Michael Abels' effective score for Us has also been noticed and well-reviewed and it might be an almost sure-fire nomination. John Williams' last Star Wars score will certainly get the token nomination, but the chance of winning are likely very remote (but perhaps Disney/LFL will campaign hard to try getting JW his sixth statuette).
     
    As for the runner-ups, Desplat is probably the most likely nominee, as he's an Academy favourite and the film is getting great reviews and buzz. Disney might push Frozen II to get a score nomination this time (the first movie ended up being disqualified for the usage of pre-existing music) and the film is already a hit. Silvestri's Avengers might also be a good nominee given the film's popularity and the fact he's well-respected by his peers.
     
    The potential "threats" are all films and scores that got positive reviews and/or are associated with films that got award buzz, so perhaps a few of them might end up mixing the cards.
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    crumbs got a reaction from Tiburon in Poll: The Rise of Skywalker End Suite predictions   
    Williams wrote a new theme for Luke (to reflect his change in circumstances), two new themes for both new main characters, multiple action motifs for the Resistance, four completely unique source pieces (after sitting them out entirely for TFA), even something as obscure as a motif for one of the new planets. And people are still whining about Williams being 'past his prime'? Get stuffed.
     
    People either have absurdly large expectations about what Williams should deliver in the 8th score for a series of films based entirely on the principal of leitmotivic writing, or are completely ignorant about the subject at hand. Short of binning all existing themes and writing new ones for every character, Williams delivered exactly the score that film required -- and did a sensational job in the process.
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    crumbs reacted to Disco Stu in The Complete Star Wars Prequels Boxset vs. The Rise of Skywalker OST   
    what a stupid thread
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