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  1. What soundtracks are - in your opinion - superior to the films they were composed for?

    The one the springs first to my mind is The Final Conflict. I conjures up beautiful images that are nowhere to be found in the movie (although I don't think the movie is as bad as a lot of people claim).

    Another one would probably be The Portrait of a Lady. I don't consider Kilar's score to be a masterpiece, but it features some hauntingly beautiful melodies that are a lot more enjoyable than the movie (which - again - I don't completely dismiss).

  2. Like some people pointed out, the first soundtrack introduced the basic themes, which are great, but I find the first half of the album quite boring.

    The third album features great themes as well, but also a lot of atonal tracks, which I'm less fond of.

    The second album however expands on the themes of the first album and adds a few which are equally great. On top of that there are only one or two tracks which I don't find interesting. So I find myself listening to the soundtrack of COS the most - hence my vote.

  3. I knew someone was going to say that...! LOL

    I enjoy the Batman Begins album a lot as it is. It's just that the titles are the weirdest I've seen so far, and they just make one curious about where the tracks fit in the film. So that's what I want to know; I'm not planning on playing them chrono.

    So: anyone?

  4. can someone tell me the order the tracks should be in to follow the movie. also, what parts of each track go with what scene? in other words can someone do a track by track break down like you did with the war of the worlds cues and such... if you need futher clarification please let me know TIA!!! take care all!!!


  5. Saw a bunch of movies. Among them:

     Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, second viewing.

     I don't know what did it, but I actually liked this movie a whole lot more the second time around. If on my original viewing I was not sure if I'd give it 2 1/2 or 3 stars, now I'm concidering giving it 3 1/2 stars. This film is so filled with imagination and creativity. It has that classic slightely gothic Burton feel, yet, not being a huge fan of Burton's films until Ed Wood, I think here he is putting his style to the best use. The film looks and feels fantastic, the stuff classic childhood fantasies are made of.

     My favortie part of the movie is the first half hour or so, before they enter the factory. I think that's just perfect in every way. The Main Titles are delicious. The depiction of Charlie and his family is great, a real classic feel to it. The build up of hte tickets is really handeled well, from the posters, to the montage of the tickets being found, introducing the deisgusting kids.

    Considering my avatar it won't be a suprise to anyone that I've also seen this movie twice by now. I adore it, pretty much for the same reasons as stated by Morlock - the only difference being that my favourite part of the movie is the first two hours! I've been a Burton-fan from Batman ('89), but I think Charlie is his best movie to date. If you like imaginative movies with some dark and weird humour to it: go see it.

    And no, it's not a childish movie.

  6. perhaps Ray, as I find it a much more satisfying film to watch than POA, and its a shame because with about 6 to 10 minutes of additional material the 3rd film would be much improved, though I don't see how it could fix the worst problem of POA, that it's just a series of scenes, rather than a cohesive film.

    Beg your pardon? I agree that POA would have been even better with the deleted scenes in it, but why do you feel it's not a cohesive movie? Because of the long black pauses between scenes? That's part of the special visual style of the movie, perhaps giving it a 30's look or something. It makes it rather special, but without really 'cutting' it into spare parts. I've seen the movie quite often lately, and to me it runs like clockwork.

    That cannot be said of COS. I love the soundtrack, but I think the movie's quite boring, save for a couple of scenes. Many people stated they fell asleep while watching it, and I can't say I blame them.

  7. I've waited for some of these since I was 15 years of age.

    Join the club! The expanded edition of 'You Only Live Twice' is really a dream-come-true. My favourite soundtrack of all time (well at least one of them).

    My favourite cue would probably be 'Capsule in Space', but it's a very difficult choice.

    Indeed 'Flight Into Space' is awesome, 'Whisper Who Dares' (Live and Let Die) really rocks, the main theme from 'OHMSS' is completely irresistable (did I spell that right?), 'Gobinda Attacks' is one of the nicest Bond Theme-renditions ever done IMO, and that goes for 'The GoldenEye Overture' as well.

    Don't like Arnold's stuff at all (apart from a few tracks).

  8. This has been discussed in depth here.The conclusion is that Williams Ross didn't compose anything and his role on COS besides conducting(apparently) is rather obscure.The complete written score indicates that Williams composed all the cues,and my ears tell me that too.The main theory is that whatever William Ross did initially was rescored by John Williams later,evidenced by rushed cues such as the Quidditch music which is almost identical to the Coruscant chase of AotC,obviously a last moment thing.We also had an insider here that told us so.Ross credit as arranger was kept to avoid professionnal problems,whatever.  

    John Williams was initially supposed to write 40 minutes of music,as he said in interviews,but then it turns out the whole OST is entirely composed by him(OST credit is ALL music composed by John Williams).If he was supposed to only write the themes and a few action cues,then it doesn't explain the AotC Coruscant Chase transcription in the score for the Quiddich Match.Surely Williams wouldn't do that if he had an adaptor of his music to write the score,and surely Williams Ross wouldn't be allowed himself to life a cue from Attack of the Clones.So JW had to use this music at the last moment because he had no time to write something else and it "fit".The same with Lucius Malfoy's theme which is the AotC mystery motif.Again that's JW pressed for time and not William ross coincidentally writing a theme from AotC.


    Thanks for the information! I already guessed something like that because the score sounds vintage Williams to me too. Actually I like COS the most of all Potter-scores.

  9. I'd love to see Williams mouthing WHAT DA F*CK! on TV when the Academy announces Patrick Doyle score for GOF as best score of the year.

    Yes, especially when Doyle uses William's themes. That would really be sick.

    Does anyone know more about the involvement of William Ross in the music of Potter 2? Did he write the whole score with William's new themes, or was he merely an arranger of some tracks with no real influence on the compositions?

  10. I expect GOF to be the best Potter-film yet. At least the book is my favorite. The only thing I don't like from all the previews is the way the Great Hall looks during the ball. It looks like an ice-palace, when in the book it's being described as this warm, candlelight room. But that's just a minor quibble.

    As far as the music is concerned, I wonder why they replaced JW. It wouldn't have been such a surprise to me if Cuaron (director of Potter 3) had done that, as his movie is so different from the first two. Seems to me that GOF won't be so different, except probably for its pace.

    Nevertheless I'm sure Doyle will do a good job, with or without JW's themes. I like his score for Mary Shelley's Frankenstein a lot.

  11. So Williams doesn't intend his score to heard the way it's heard in the movie?

    You haven't been reading my post properly. I was talking about the soundtrack-ALBUMS, not the movies. Of course JW builds his themes and pays close attention to their arrangement in the film ('cause that's what's scoring is all about). But listening to a CD is a different experience from watching a film and therefore JW apparently sees need for rearranging cues. I'm sure he doesn't do that arbitrarely.

    And let me say again that there are cd's of which the sequencing doesn't work for me either.

    Those designs are great Willy. One thing that should be fixed if you're looking for continuity is to replace on the first cover that pic of Leia from Empire and replace it with one of her in a white gown and buns.

    Actually I took those illustrations from the video-release of the trilogy from a couple of years ago. But I could fix that nevertheless of course.

    Superb CD designs indeed.  

    Do you ever do CD art (to stick on the CD itself, I mean)?

    I'd like to, but sometimes home-made cd's with art sticked on it won't play anymore, so I don't really bother. I did however made art to go into the inside of the jewel-cases (so you can only see it when you remove the cd), but it just contains of a single image for each cd, so I didn't bother to post them.

  12. I wonder if the sound was enhanced too, like a remaster. Anyone?

    Much enhanced. The old release sounds horrible, the new one sounds quite good. FAR better than the old one.

    Marian - who actually had tears in his eyes the first time he listened to the DE.

    Okay, thanks. I'll buy it as soon as I can find it (probably at a movie-fair).

    I'm not surprised about your tears, by the way. It's an amazing piece of work that really defies description.

    I don't have many other Goldsmith-albums though (maybe because I'm not much into science-fiction; it seems he did a lot of that):

    - The Omen

    - Damien Omen II

    - Psycho II

    - The Mummy

    - Legend (1992 Silva Screen re-release)

    - Total Recall

    Together with The Final Conflict I consider Psycho II, Legend and Total Recall among the best soundtrack I've heard so far.

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