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Just finished part 2. Brilliant. So grateful for this release and everyone who worked so hard to make it a reality. I’ll posit one minor disagreement with Mike: he stated that he felt London was too magical and that the transition to Neverland should have been minors stark and dramatic like in The Wizard of Oz. That’s an interesting perspective and one I can understand but I’m glad it ended up like it did. To me (who like John Takis) was eleven when I saw Hook, I always considered London to be somewhat magical in the film. It was the “bridge” to Neverland and to Peter’s past life. It’s where he was adopted. It’s where the story originated and where the book was written. I believe Peter had subconsciously avoided returning to London for many years. His return to London is like the key that begins to unlock the door between the worlds. London is the gateway and therefore slightly magical in its own right. I totally see Mike’s perspective, but for me, the scene as-is is perfect.
Again, I couldn’t be more thankful for this release. Just amazing.
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I cannot wait for this. Easily the most excited I've been about any release in YEARS. Order is Awaiting Shipment and the suspense is killing me. Normally, I'd have had this as a Christmas gift but zero chance I'm waiting that long. Plus, Hook has always been a wintry/Christmassy score to me anyways. So excited for this and grateful you got to be part of it @Jay!
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Couldn't be happier to see this. Immediately ordered.
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4 hours ago, Damien F said:
I'm really struck by how much Helena's theme dominates the OST compared to Indy's theme especially in the action music.
From what I heard, she dominates much of the film. Seeing it Thursday so can't say for sure yet but based on some reviews I've read plus two friends that saw it, it's as much a "Helena" film as an Indy...
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I've listened to it once and though I couldn't give it my full attention, I did try to dedicate a few minutes. The sound quality is definitely an improvement to my ears but it isn't dramatic. The last release was excellent as well and if the new LLL didn't exist, you'd never hear a complaint from me on the previous one. It's a bit "clearer" if that makes sense. Having the correct takes and bonus tracks is welcome as well.
For those like me who love the score, this is an absolute no-brainer. Buy it immediately. For those who have never heard of it, it's one of the most fun and quirky Goldsmith works there is. I am certainly biased because the film is an all-time personal favorite, but honestly, I'd recommend this to anyone. It's just a lot of fun and never fails to make me smile. If you've already got the previous expanded edition and have to choose between The 'Burbs and other titles in the Black Friday bunch, I'd say go for the others as this is the least changed since its last release. But I love it.
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So excited for this one! Amistad is one of Williams' works that I'm less familiar with so cannot wait to dig in!
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Never in a million years expected a MM/NSB-produced edition of The 'Burbs. Unbelievable!!
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Wow. I'll be getting all 5. Holy crap.
The 'Burbs is out of left field. I never imagined we'd get MORE music from one of my all-time favorite films and scores.
And Amistad? YES PLEASE!!
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Excited for more Horner!!
And super excited for the Black Friday announcements.
Fingers crossed for some more Williams, and fingers doubly-crossed for a proper MM-produced Hook. That's a score I actually listen to a lot around Christmas so the timing would be perfect for me plus it's top tier Williams in my book. Regardless, I can't wait to find out what's coming!
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Williams talks about Spielberg cutting Bike Chase to the music in this video. Skip to around 3:27 for the segment but then specifically 5:10 for Williams commenting on cutting the projector for Bike Chase.
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3 hours ago, Jay said:
Once I learned how to reconfigure OST albums into chronological order, I did so with Jurassic Park and never looked back.
I do feel that OST albums should be preserved on expansions whenever it is reasonable to do so, but this particular OST configuration Williams put together I still feel misses the mark, especially since the complete score is not that much longer and flows amazingly well in chronological sequence - though it's the exact repetitions of 2 entire cues that really does it for me. I wish "Theme From Jurassic Park" was entirely newly recorded instead of just a new intro and outro pasted onto the film cue!
I completely agree. If this were any other score assembled this way, I’d likely be exactly the same. In this instance though, the OST is burned into my mind from nonstop play as a kid. I’m certainly not arguing the OST is the superior arrangement (though I do love good OSTs), but rather that this specific OST (warts and all) is very personally special to me.
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I've got the 2016 box but couldn't be more thrilled for this release and mine is Awaiting Shipment!
I know people have issues with the OST due to the repeated music, which was certainly an odd choice. For me personally though, there are very few score presentations I hold more dearly than the Jurassic Park OST. I saw the film on opening weekend at the mall theater and immediately walked down to the music store and bought the soundtrack and WORE IT OUT. I still have it to this day. We all have these pivotal scores that helped ignite or fuel our love of film music. For me, Jurassic Park and it's original soundtrack album represent one of those moments for me.
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2 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said:
But if you buy it you will prevent a person who does not own it to buy it…
I’ll buy it for my son but store it with my CDs obviously.
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Jurassic Park being re-released wouldn’t preclude any other titles being released. Jurassic Park is a title that should always be in print if possible.
I’ve got the 4-Disc LLL set but Jurassic Park is a top 10 score of all time for me so I’ll be ordering this on release day no matter what.
Whether there are tweaks or improvements or not, more people having the opportunity to own JP is a good thing in my book!
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These are phenomenal. Not sure how I missed them until now, but I'm so thankful to have discovered this thread. Wonderful work. Thank you!
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Yep! Sorry for the picture quality. Just snapped a quick pic as we were running out and I realized it had come in the mail!
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Hook and Last Crusade for me. Hook is a top 5 personal favorite Williams score and it needs Mike's treatment. A close second would be Amistad followed by Tintin.
The Last Crusade is my favorite IJ score and film. Raiders is technically a "better" film but I love TLC.
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I'll definitely be picking it up. Excited to see what else their Black Friday slate has in store!
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There isn't any music from Home Alone in the film that I'm aware of. The first two Santa Claus films are nostalgic for me (especially the music). I even picked up the promo score release of the second film for quite a bit not too long ago. Anyways, I am not aware of any spots where it uses Home Alone music at all. I'll keep my ears open when it's playing in the background of our constant Christmas movie Plex playlists.
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48 minutes ago, Jay said:
I think the only reason to use something from a fan is when it truly cannot be found anywhere else, and the fan's material is the only known source. But that can't be the case with Hook. There is no reason whatsoever to think that Sony Pictures doesn't have all of the original 1st gen tapes in their vaults. I think we simply have a case where Didier did not get them, and just stuck with the material they had at Sony Music. If the project could had been done by Mike instead of Didier, I'm sure more usual procedures would have been followed and he would have gotten everything Sony Pictures has and used that. And the only reason we'd be talking about the leak was for its clean openings and endings and that's about it.
Right there with you buddy. It's kinda funny, that for me, even though expansions of the Star Wars scores, Indiana Jones scores, and Hook already exist, I personally would love to have proper MM versions of all of those more than all the JW scores that have never been expanded. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely want all those too, but I've been dreaming of truly definitive Hook, SW, and IJ since I was a kid and know I will play them all a heck of a lot when they finally happen
Oh 100%. I agree. I just meant that I would not let the fact that fan was the source stop me from using it. Of course if I had the legitimate source material, that's what I would use. I only meant that the (to me) it would be silly to not consider using material from a fan simply because it was from a fan, leak, etc.
As for your second paragraph, I agree wholeheartedly. I obviously want all of JW's unreleased/unexpanded work too, but if I had to choose, I'd take proper, MM-produced versions of Star Wars, Indy, and Hook. It might not get a ton of attention (outside of a place like this) in the public consciousness, but Hook is a top-tier film score for me and a personal favorite with so much sentimental value to me. I really hope I can add a proper presentation to my library someday. And for the record, I of course have the LLL and OST. I'm not depriving myself of "good" while holding out for "perfect."
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Hey now...hands are somewhat tied at the moment.
But yes, I too would love to get this resolved ASAP.