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    Doug Adams replied to BloodBoal's topic in Tolkien Central

    They do when they research-based, 700+ pages, and being written concurrent to other books. Really though, 2012 to 2016 isn't too bad a stretch.
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    Doug Adams replied to BloodBoal's topic in Tolkien Central

    Thanks! Very different from the big commercial properties I've been around lately, but I honestly believe it'll change the way many people look at film music. For me, at least, it was a revelation.
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    Doug Adams replied to BloodBoal's topic in Tolkien Central

    Editing is finishing during the next week or two. (We've been on it all summer ... ) Engraving and layout will follow shortly. Next year seems likely.
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    Doug Adams replied to BloodBoal's topic in Tolkien Central

    I pushed (gently) for a few more music comments, but the focus was elsewhere this time. Totally understand, too. This is their big wrap-up presentation--and they certainly featured scoring heavily last time out. No bad blood. And don't worry, we'll have plenty more to say about the music in the future. Anyway, I'm set for an entirely different documentary later this month ... if Jim lets me. D
  5. Doug Adams
    I don't think it was scored.
  6. Doug Adams
    I suppose the climactic face-off with the Necromancer could have used it (all three Wizards were present), but it's always a question of perspective, of course. And Galadriel's material might have been lost in the mix.
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    No public documentation of every individual composition, but I can tell you that no site was exclusively orchestral or choral. Early on, Watford was used for both choral and orchestral--simultaneously, in fact, until the logistics of the room made it way too difficult to conduct. After that, it was mostly orchestral. Abbey was primarily choral, but a few orchestral sessions crept in there. Air was the same, though I believe the orchestra recorded the big Mumakil bit from ROTK there as well. (The cramped space led to the untimely death of a harp, as I've heard it told.) Henry Wood was used in a very limited capacity as well. D
  8. Doug Adams
    The text is about Radagast. Also, I asked the composer. In The Hobbit, many (most?) characters receive a personal theme and a cultural theme. This was true of Bilbo (initially), of Bard, of Thorin, of Tauriel ... and it's true of Gandalf. For whatever reason, the decision was made to downplay the other Wizards' musical identities. Some of Radagast's secondary material returned in an early draft of BOFA, but it never made it to the recording floor; Saruman's theme was never slated to reappear after its initial cameo. So this Istari theme simply ended up with Gandalf most of the time. It absolutely applies to him, so it's entirely appropriate, but it's not quite as direct and contained as his personal theme.
  9. Doug Adams
    Jim is correct. For the same reason a theme for Rivendell Elves as a whole plays when Elrond gives Aragorn a sword. The score often takes a broader perspective than the film does, which is why it's able to deal with subtexts, etc. rather than just slavishly repeating what we see.
  10. Doug Adams
    Thematic/motivic development in The Hobbit is less circular than it was in LOTR. That's part of what makes it its own animal. In a sense, LOTR was more "there and back again," and The Hobbit is "there and there."
  11. Doug Adams
    Ohh, skips seems interesting! I didn't even remember that existed. Your play counts completely dwarf my numbers! And wow is that "The Last Goodbye" figure big. I also need to get the standard Roast Mutton edition, the extended really misses out by not having the driving Misty Mountain statement. I might just wait for Expanded Releases/Complete Recordings. What's happening with the iPod? It's supposed to sync playback information from iPods back to iTunes so listening on any device adds to the total count. I wonder if Doug listens through iTunes (and whether he uses the official releases)... I use either iTunes or VLC for the most part. Official releases when checking timings/final mixes and things like that--otherwise, it's off to the archives.
  12. Doug Adams
    Yes, Howard wrote a short motif for me once. I rarely mention it because I have a hard time wrapping my own head around the idea. Hardly competition SUH. I am sure it is littered with inaccuracies and some misinterpretations but it is just my way of expressing my fanhood of this music. I was just teasing. It's incredible the amount of time you put into that! I'm definitely give it a proper look through when I'm able. No can do, sorry. Can you tell us which piece was recorded later and why? "Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be silent." -Victor Hugo Doug answered that it was recorded by Shore, don't know if he said anything about the LPO. The trailer is a mix of Synth and Orchestra. I *believe* it was an Isobel Griffiths pick-up group.
  13. Doug Adams
    Were such a book to exist, chances are my first draft would have been delivered and I'd be waiting for the first round of edits. But that's all conjecture at this point.
  14. Doug Adams
    The BOFA EE music was all written and recorded alongside the Theatrical music--with the exception of one piece. Shore's work was largely done last fall. (I believe the final short composition was written in late February and recorded shortly thereafter ... though I'd have to check to be certain.) Music editing on the Hobbit films was a pretty independent process. Glad you've enjoyed the LOTR book, thanks! We'll see if we can come up with a worthy followup or two.
  15. Doug Adams
    I wasn't either.
  16. Doug Adams
    Because it's the last one. The music of Middle-earth is complete (for now). https://twitter.com/DougAdamsMusic/status/606434353225211904 Perhaps since he's not in the BOTFA special features he's not under NDA. We know all of the recording was done back in September-October, so they've just been conforming the music to the final cut I take. I wonder why Doug shared this, perhaps the EE is more exciting than the previous ones musically. Those picture he tweeted of time stamps for Thrain DOS pieces seemed to suggest he was stitching together cues for personal listening, or for the book release. Surely expanded releases would need to released alongside a detailed discussion of the cues. https://twitter.com/DougAdamsMusic/status/578661917318844417
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    "major" dwarf themes in AUJ? Wouldn't the only "major" AUJ dwarf related themes be Erebor, Thorin, and Misty Mountains? No.
  18. Doug Adams
    Sorry for the weird over-quoted post. My phone doesn't seem to love this interface.
  19. Doug Adams
    I assuming this was House of Durin? No. That's not a secondary Gandalf theme. It has a broader application. It's an Istari theme! But does it even appear in the subsequent films? I can't remember a single instance where the theme would be recognizably present in DoS or BotFA.It's in BOFA. Heavily varied, but very recognizable. Listen to Gandalf's final moments in the score.Now I have to start combing through the soundtrack (again!). EDIT: Well blimey! It is there! Sometimes this glossary of themes deafens you to these smaller gestures. Or perhaps makes a regular listener guessing between themes. Naturally context is important. Another nice find! Thanks Doug! One of my favorite sequences in all three scores. Very simple, but so tonally perfect.
  20. Doug Adams
    That's not a secondary Gandalf theme. It has a broader application. It's an Istari theme! But does it even appear in the subsequent films? I can't remember a single instance where the theme would be recognizably present in DoS or BotFA. It's in BOFA. Heavily varied, but very recognizable. Listen to Gandalf's final moments in the score.
  21. Doug Adams
    There are rescued bits from the theme compositions in all three Hobbit scores. None really has any particular thematic connection anymore, however. LOTR was the same way. Early ideas often popped up elsewhere and were repurposed. Very common practice for all composers, not just film. Btw, one the major Dwarf themes in AUJ began life as a Dol Guldur theme! Shore reshaped it and made it Dwarf-ier. That's not a secondary Gandalf theme. It has a broader application.
  22. Doug Adams
    It was meant to play a larger role overall, but nothing was written for DOS or BOFA while it was still in play, so it's impossible to know for certain what it might have done in those scores. This was sort of a quest theme (the titles for the theme pieces on the album were all assigned after the fact and have little to no bearing on what the themes actually represented), and as such it functioned similarly to Misty Mountains. It's entirely possible that, like Misty Mountains, the theme wouldn't haven survived to DOS or BOFA. EDIT: Sorry, this was referring to the "Erebor" theme track (which, similarly, was not a theme for Erebor). Same general answer applies to all the Dwarf theme pieces, however.
  23. Doug Adams
    I'm saying it's "possible," not "likely."
  24. Doug Adams
    I don't know the exact passages, but it was all last act/finale stuff, so it's very possible.
  25. Doug Adams
    No I don't think so.
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