BigMacGyver
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There are. It's just a matter of wether you want to see them or not. Believe me, i have made experience in the subject and you can never trust annything that is said in these interviews. There is ALWAYS a different story that is not being told for various reasons.
Or are you really that naive and believe that Zimmer is completely honest about a situation that was uncomfortable for nearly everyone involved?
Of course, since these interviews are all about promotion, he will answer in a way that suits him well and of course he is the first to note: "Oh that score from that other composer, i have heard it and it was all wrong but MY theme made nancy shake because it was sooo good and fitting". It's interesting that a composer who is hardly producing "fitting" music is the one who recognizes a score that is "not fitting at all".
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I know my view on the subject does not excite zimmer-fans. But I can perfectly live with that. No more Zimmer or anything connected with him for me, please.
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I first really noticed boyle for his performance as a seer in the x-files episode "Clyde Bruckman's final repose" which was probably the best guest appearance of the whole series.
From that point on I started to notice and liking him even for the smallest appearances.
Rest In Peace!
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If memory serves, there has never ever been a complete score sheets release of any film score. I don't see how BTTF could be the first especially since Universal would be the least to agree. That whole "send in your request" thing is obviously some kind of hoax.
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Daniel Schweiger is possibly the worst interviewer especially in this instance. He is NEVER asking the really important questions. I would be dying to hear a real investigative interviewer who actually isn't a fan of zimmer asking some really important questions and then I would love to have Zimmer's reactions and answers (if there would be any at all - he even stumbled over Schweiger's fluffy questions ). Schweiger is too much of a softie and too bad these interviews are more about promotion than anything else.
What really got me going was the something's gotta give part. It's now obvious that there is someone at sony pictures who is clearly pushing for remote control and zimmer influence on all possible movies, which was probably also the reason why silvestri walked off of Click before anything worse could happen. Zimmer mentions this person... leah or leo wallock (? - the name is hard to understand) who is obviously in charge of something at sony and who is a friend of him.
Does it still wonder anyone why Silvestri walked off and was replaced by a score 10 guys have written in 4 days that claims to be a zimmer score while all he did was the theme? I don't buy the stuff that Silvestri's material was that wrong, the guy has written themes for a number of films and never ever have i heard a theme of his that was anything close to be unfitting. Never. And I know them all! And no one can tell me that something Zimmer had in his archive of throwaway stuff was better than what Silvestri came up with. That's just as impossible as finding weapons of mass destruction in irak's sand. Damn, I am so sick of Zimmer... sitting there claiming he wanted to send that throwaway theme from his garbage can over to "help out". And please, no more horseshit of "oh, how great that composer is, what amazing stuff he has written, I am not telling names on purpose"... give me a break! If he would really have that much respect for Silvestri, he would have simply said: I am not going to do it in 4 days with my legion of hacks. But that takes artistic integrity, which is something Zimmer clearly does not know or have.
But thank god Silvestri has it, which was certainly the reason why he did not score anything for sony pictures anymore after Something's gotta give. I just hope Zimmer won't be awarded for the crap that is pirates 2 because that would actually encourage him. That guy got enough positive feedback from the general crowd already. Let's ask some really important questions instead.
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lol, you know that this one turned out to be a re-recording which will come out soon.
It's rumours so they can't always be 100% accurate 8O
However I am very certain about destroyer because that one actually comes from a person with a direct connection to the label! But enough said already!
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Guys, prometheus is still busy with more poledouris. This is the latest addition to my rumours section that comes from an inside source:
According to latest information from reliable sources, Prometheus records is currently working on a new CD release of the underestimated Poledouris' classic Conan The Destroyer (1984). It is not known yet wether this new release will feature the complete score or just expand on the material from the now hard to find original release but whatever amount of the score will be on it is expected to have improved sound quality. Further details are completely unknown at this time.
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Definitely lonesome dove. If you don't have it yet, get it! It has two marvelous themes but is overall more on the romantic side, much on the contrary compared to quigley which also has romantic moments but is more an action adventure thing. Lonesome dove is perfect dramatic western scoring and rightfully earned poledouris his one and only emmy win (can you believe it? the man deserved so much more awards). There is an expanded album out there with the music of lonesome dove but its OOP and becoming hard to find as well. Buysoundtrax still has copies at a reasonable price:
http://buysoundtrax.stores.yahoo.net/londovorsoun.html
Another one, not really a pure western score but with strong western music touches and a western-like main theme is Cherry 2000. Not one of his best but definitely has its moments too. It's like an odd cross between western, romance and sci-fi.
Amanda is also a solid one. It's basically what basil did for free willy, just translated into a very light quasi-western score with intimate touches and not too much big stuff. That makes sence, since this is not primarily a western with cowboys etc but more about the relationship between a child and a horse. Good score but maybe not among his best.
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Lonesome Dove might be poledouris' best and most effective western score but quigley is simply more fun as a listening experience. The action stuff is so cool with an action motif/ostinato for big orchestral hits backed up by an insanely fast-paced racing banjo performance (if you heard Silvestri's van helsing traveling theme with that eastern european guitar thing you kind of know the concept), there is a nice love theme and a really entertaining, easy-going western main theme with a jaunty touch and this one is often used in the vein of big sky bernstein romanticism throughout the score.
I would say quigley is a definite poledouris must-have.
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Well, actually I am not sure if this is soundtrack.net's podcast, however, it's clearly hosted by soundtrack.net's Dan Goldwasser plus some other guy.
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I take my delorean time machine and travel back in time to get a bag full of sealed copies
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Soundtrack.net's latest podcast features exclusive excerpts from the night at the museum soundtrack release, among bits and pieces of other highly anticipated, upcoming scores such as thomas newman's the good german:
http://media21a.libsyn.com/podcasts/6afdbb...Podcast_021.mp3
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That might be true but there are people out there who might not want to spend 100 euros to aquire a copy of the old expanded re-issue which is hard to find these days. Same goes for the regular intrada release of quigley which is equally hard to find.
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Prometheus records will soon release a complete version of Goldsmith's King Solomon's Mines (including never before heard source music) and a complete version of Basil Poledouris' music for Quigley Down Under.
Both albums can already be pre-ordered at screenarchives.com!
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Problem is that these kind of idealists like yourself or myself are not working at sony. However, at least there IS some sort of interest with this company to get film music released.
I mean, we can be glad that there is something coming from the sony vault in form of some limited editions. It could be much worse... it could be paramount... and that would mean no-go on everything!
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By the way, anyone who doesn't appreciate this music simply has NO idea about what good music is.
Or maybe they suffer from a lack of humour. I have recently re-watched one of those tom and jerry episodes that is featured on the 2-disc set called "That's My Mommy!" (you know the one with this little duck). It was so hilarious and the music had punchlines throughout the short. This is really cartoon scoring at its best!
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Nah, that's pure silvestri choral stuff.
Remote controls choirs are always the same sampled gregson-williams choir used over and over again. You know, that male choir from the rock, armageddon, etc. Silvestri's use of choir in VH is very distinctive from that.
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Van Helsing was too good and fitting to be anywhere close to anything from remote control
And this film is an entirely different beast. It's fantasy/comedy and silvestri is an expert for this genre mix.
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I don't want to spread false info but I could swear the latest trailer for this one already contains silvestri's score. I am not talking about the one which used Debney's Hocus Pocus music but the new international trailer:
http://www.myspace.com/nightatthemuseum
You have to scroll down the page a bit to watch it.
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I saw about 3 seconds of a preview for the movie, what is this about? Is this a comedy (Which I thought when I saw Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson) or is this a children's fantasy movie?
It's a fantasy adventure with strong comedy elements.
Some of the tracks on the CD seem to be less than a minute but there also seem to be at least two that run about 4 minutes (i would say civil war soldiers is one of them).
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Too bad the track running times are impossible to read.
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I like to think that there are unreleased scores out there that are more deserving of one than Tom and Jerry.
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If I'm not mistaken, this is the first Scott Bradley CD?
That's at least what they say in the announcement:
"Incredibly, this is the first-ever album release of his work."
And I guess it won't be the last as the disc description says volume 1! Looks like there will be more.
Remember Lukas Kendall announced another box set release for 2007? I have a hunch that this could be a cartoon music box.
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Hilarious music.
I have to get this one asap. Finally some underrepresented classics of cartoon scoring receive the respect they deserve.
Zimmer on 'On the score'
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Well then, if we can't know the truth I don't see any reason why we should continue this discussion. You believe what you want to believe and I will do so too.
Just one more thing: It's quite funny that you note zimmer's music is more interesting than silvestri's because unfitting music always has the tendency to be more interesting than something that actually fits a picture. Silvestri could have probably used E-guitar converters on the orchestra for the Polar Express action sequences to make it "interesting" but I bet Zemeckis would have given him the boot then. Beyond zimmer's "interesting" choices, the music that comes out is still plain simple in composition, laughable in execution (the dirty dozen of remote control helpers) and uneffective as a result. He is the most overrated composer who ever walked on hollywood ground.