TheUlyssesian

I just absolutely hate it when some casual film goer tells me oh that movie is great it has a score by Hans Zimmer. And when I tell him what I think of Zimmer, he makes cuckoo eyes at me and almost apologizes saying..."well he is so popular". Zimmer is like the enemy of thoughtful music. He constantly pervades a culture of dumb, degrading, noisy and unintelligent simplistic horseshit that is marketed as "cutting" edge and sold to audiences who lap it up. His music has just one quality - loud. I think his current music is almost entirely without merit and he has used his current position of influence and esteem in the scoring industry to set some truly terrible precedents which seem to haunt much of the shit that he hear in films these days.

Comparing scale and depth of the writing, the other nominees are a joke compared to TFA, like not even worth discussing in the same breath. But alas Williams will not win.

I voted for MotR before listening to both again. I think I might have voted for Flag Parade instead if I had listened to them afresh. Pardon my not having instant recollection of the Flag Parade as I am not as thoroughly familiar with TPM score as I should be. But damn that's a great piece of music. Simply musically speaking, flag parade is the superior piece. Just so much pomp and grandeur, you can literally picture an enormous arena with tens of thousands of flags or people marching in a procession. MotR gives more the feel of a covert military operation.

The term hack is ashamed to be applied to Zimmer. How on earth such a talentless charlatan gets scoring assignments is a mystery. If I were a director, you couldn't pay me to defile my movie with a single "note" "composed" by Zimmer. This obviously sounds like garbage. And so will the entire score. I guess it will fit the film just fine.

They nominated the wrong Giacchino Score in the top category.

There is no way Ennio deserves it this year for his half baked score.

Yeah, as Jay said, Tintin is downright mutilated in the film. And very evidently so. I could make out that the movie was edited on my first viewing of the film without having heard the album too. Anyone know about Schindler's List? And Harry Potter 1? Both of them sound like could be unedited.

Basically which are the JW scores which were mostly intact in the films and played as they were recorded? I think most of his modern scores and butchered and hacked to bits in the movies.

Most of his Disney's noms were as producer, not director. As head of the studio, he basically just put his name as producer on everything Disney made and thus got a lot of nominations.

I was hoping against hope that Morricone was snubbed. What a pity he got nominated. Now the stupid general voters will vote for him. I think if Morricone was not here, JW would be the favorite. The rest are just filler and never going to win.

There is a little bit of similarity in the first phrase but that's it.

The Jedi Steps full version? Wow! I think it might be a full performance and development of the theme. For my bet, it is probably the best theme in the score so I would definitely love more of it.

Yep, my bad. I mean't MoTR.

I like the above discussion about the kind of theme it is. I will say this that there is something about the MotC which could easily make it a villain theme. It is rather forceful and extremely determined in its presentation and construction. The Godwin themes seem more "heroic" so to say, or for good guys. That is why I think the MotC is very interesting. It has a glinting mercenary edge which I think is reflective of the fact that it is apparently not actually sanctioned by the new Republic but is its own guerrilla body.

Can anyone tell me what theme is it from 0:00 to 0:35? This is my favorite opening of all the 6 middle earth films. It has the overwhelming sense of sweeping grandeur that is almost operatic.

He was kidding. That much is obvious.

Looking for some recommendation for some great Heroic and Badass themes. I include badass in the distinction because some of the most heroic sounding themes can often be villain themes. Beowulf Theme from Beowulf - Alan Silvestri (0:10) Imhotep Theme from The Mummy - Jerry Goldsmith (0:31) Kull Theme from Kull The Conqueror - Joel Goldsmith (0:54) Captain America Theme from Captain America: The First Avenger - Alan Silvestri (0:12) Amphytron Theme - The Legend Of Hercules (1:07) What would you recommend?

I mean this by the Tatoonie theme From 1:42 in the track.

1. Anakin and Padme Love Theme - II 2. Darth Vader's Theme - V 3. Yoda's Theme - V 4. March Of The Resistance - VII 5. Han Solo and Leia Love Theme - V 6. Princess Leia Theme - IV 7. Luke and Leia Theme - VI 8. Luke's Theme - IV 9. Force Theme - IV 10. Tatoonie Theme - IV My rationale - Higher points to themes which can be performed stand alone as extended musical movements without quoting any other themes or motifs. Luke's Theme and Force Theme were hurt in this regard. Han Solo and Leia would be higher but doesn't have a proper concert arrangement. And Tatoonie theme is last because again is a short movement and cannot be performed at length on its own. This is just my rationale - I overall gave preference to melodic harmony and development as markers of strength of the composition of the theme.

TOP 5 SCORES OF 2015: 1. John Williams - Star Wars: The Force Awakens 2. Michael Giacchino - Tomorrowland 3. Gabirel Yared - Tom At The Farm 4. Daniel Pemberton - The Man from U.N.C.L.E. 5. Carter Burwell - Carol Runner-Ups 6. Michael Giacchino - Inside Out 7. Danny Elfman - 50 Shades Of Grey 8. Danny Elfman - Avengers: Age Of Ultron 9. Ennio Moricone - The Hateful Eight 10. Henry Jackman - Kingsman: The Secret Service TOP 12 INDIVIDUAL TRACKS OF 2015: 1. The Jedi Steps and Finale - Star Wars: The Force Awakens 2. March Of The Resistance - Star Wars: The Force Awakens 3. Rey's Theme - Star Wars: The Force Awakens 4. Joy Turns to Sadness/A Growing Personality - Inside Out 5. New Avengers - Avengers: Age of Ultron - Avengers: Age of Ultron 6. Electric Dreams - Tomorrowland 7. End Credits - Tomorrowland 8. Opening - Carol 9. Manners Maketh Man - Kingsman: The Secret Service 10. Take You Down - The Man from U.N.C.L.E. 11. His Name Is Napoleon Solo - The Man from U.N.C.L.E. 12. The Unfinished Kiss - The Man from U.N.C.L.E. Top 12 Best New Themes of 2015 1. Jedi Steps - Star Wars: The Force Awakens 2. Rey's Theme - Star Wars: The Force Awakens 3. March Of The Resistance - Star Wars: The Force Awakens 4. Love Theme or the Main Theme (whatever its called) - Tomorrowland 5. Athena's Theme - Tomorrowland 6. Ilya's Theme - The Man from U.N.C.L.E. 7. Kingsman Theme - Kingsman: The Secret Service 8. New Avengers Theme - Avengers: Age of Ultron 9. Solo's Theme - The Man from U.N.C.L.E. 10. Main Theme - The Hateful Eight 11. Main Theme - Carol 12. Sadness Theme - Inside Out 5 BEST FILMS OF 2015 1. The Assassin 2. Li'l Quinquin 3. A Pigeon Sat On A Branch 4. Jauja 5. Tom At The Farm 5 Best Uses of Existing Music 1. Love 2. The Hateful Eight 3. Youth 4. Clouds Of Sils Maria 5. Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation

Clemensen's review is up and frankly I don't get half of his thematic analysis. He seems to have gleaned a very different set of new themes than what we have established here. Anyone read his analysis yet?

Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone A.I. The Adventures of Tintin Star Wars - The Attack Of The Clones Star Wars - The Force Awakens The first Harry Potter is undoubtedly one of Williams' masterpieces. Outstanding. Even the smaller themes are unforgettable.

So is the Jedi Steps theme being considered a new theme? It sounds like a new theme to me but some people are saying it is a fusion of Rey and Luke's themes.

I see what you are saying. Might happen with general audiences for sure. But frankly didn't happen with me at all. I had admittedly heard the theme track before the film so when I saw it I picked out almost all of its statements in the film. But it can be a slippery theme due to its complexity for the general audience. Its very refinement make it less easy to remember and comprehend for general audiences.

Like say a quite introspective moment when Finn is sitting and wondering, the theme cannot be used right? That's the reason I don't think it is his theme. I am trying to locate an instance when the action motif is used when Finn is not around.