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Pieter Boelen

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  1. 13 hours ago, crumbs said:

    the Score Only version of TLJ has disappeared from the PC/browser and Android app versions of Disney+ for me. I haven't checked my PS4 but hopefully it's still there! How bizarre... it was there a few weeks back because I was playing it on my computer!

    Checked my PS4 just now and the only extra's I could find are a whole bunch of deleted scenes and the movie with audio commentary.

    Couldn't find the "Score Only" option as separate audio track for the film or audio commentary either.

     

    Maybe time for us to Give Feedback here?

    https://help.disneyplus.com/csp

     

    I had just been mentioning this to certain Disney+ naysayers as a positive and this is sort-of undermining my point for them. :lick:

  2. 4 hours ago, dylanskie said:

     

    I haven't found it yet either. I'm in the US. The movie is on Disney Plus, but the score-only version isn't in the extras

    I also looked if it was listed separately under "Specials" in the Star Wars section.

    But that's not where it is either...

     

    1 hour ago, igger6 said:

    Wait...TLJ debuted in the US on 12/26, and I don’t see the isolated score as an option on Audio or Extras. Am I missing something? That’s the only way I want to watch TLJ!

    Maybe this was just the announcement and it has to show up?

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    7 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said:

    Ep 8 gave no guidance to the follower as to how to follow it. I'd argue Ep 7 atleast set up various lines to be explored in 8. Not only did Rian trample all over them - he provided none of his own. Nobody had any idea at the end of 8 where the story could go. We knew at the end of Ep5 atleast something about what to expect. We knew at the end of Ep2 atleast something about what to expect. We knew absolutely nothing about what was going to happen in Ep 9 after Ep 8. The story had no momentum point, set up no mysteries, created no momentum or inevitability.

    Hmm... I was going to disagree with you there.

    But then:

     

    7 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said:

    I think the only option would have been - they should has asked Rian back. Saying Rian - you have put us in a corner. We don't know how to proceed. You show us the way and write the script for us. Have some skin in the game. Your name is going to be credited up on the screen on 9. So come join the fray and if there is blame - share the blame and if there is reward share the reward.

    I like that idea.

     

    3 hours ago, Stefancos said:

     

    The struggle between Rey and Kylo Ren, who's now the big bad of the trilogy instead of someone's willing thrall?

     

    The decimated Resistance having to reassert itself against the First Order. Poe as the new leader after Leia's tragic death. Finn with his new found goal of actually being a Resistance member rather than pretending to be one.

     

    Rey coming to terms with her relationship with the Force.

     

    That combined with a new plot are all interesting things that Ep 9 could have gone with rather than sticking an old, supposedly dead character on a crane and suddenly break out FIFTEEN THOUSAND Star Destroyers and a bunch of Sith lore stuff that does little than power this films scavenger hunt.

     

    Oh well.

    OOOH! Well said!

  4. 19 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said:

    Shocking sacrilegious opinion - would anyone really care if Chewie died? Seriously?

    For a second there, I was quite shocked.

    Seemed a bit sudden to kill him off before he had the chance to do much of anything in the trilogy.

     

    Then, as it turned out, many other characters concluded the trilogy, barely doing much of anything either.

    Lando showed up for a double Deus Ex Machina bit, but that's about it.

    What was even the purpose of those brand new characters?

    And I can't remember a thing that famous R2-D2 did in TROS at all.

  5. 14 hours ago, gkgyver said:

    Indian productions feature predominantly Indian people, Chinese productions feature predominantly chinese people, European productions predominantly feature European people, and Anglo American productions feature predominantly Anglo American people. Because that's what the majority of the respective population identifies with.

    It is true that is the current state of the world.

     

    And from a historical perspective, that makes sense.

    But the future isn't history. And we can move beyond that.

  6. 12 minutes ago, Chen G. said:

     

    I mean, it is trying to be Raiders, which is sad not only because it falls flat, but also because the last thing I want in a bad movie is for it to remind me of a much, much better movie.

    Why a finale of a much-loved series should aim to mimic any other movie is certainly beyond MY understanding.

    I'd have said, it should've been very much its own thing.

  7. 16 hours ago, Bespin said:

    False SW fans

    Who are you to judge?

     

    16 hours ago, A. A. Ron said:


    Of course there isn’t anything wrong with that, but it’s not like these are great films, nor are the women in them particularly interesting. Rey, Jyn, Qi’ra, and even Leia are just ok in these films. Holdo, Rose, and Phasma are pretty much worthless. Like these movies themselves, these characters are forgettable.

    I agree they could've done better. Far better.

    Real shame that they didn't. The chance was most certainly there.

     

    5 hours ago, Brundlefly said:

    TRoS is designed not to hurt or upset anyone - the result is generic and boring. The same story from the original trilogy repeated, it's just realistic to say that TLJ will be more and more appreciated in the future.

    Yes, it was indeed designed for that.

    It failed.

    It failed because it tried to do exactly that.

  8. 20 minutes ago, Chen G. said:

     

    Its a complex subject, but the short of it is no, it doesn't matter: the western ideal is freedom for the individual. A cast can be predominatly white male and still be perfectly egalitarian.

    That's the ideal, yes.

    We don't live up to it.

     

    Freedom isn't all it's made out to be anyway.

    Not when my freedom interferes with yours.

     

    For me, the ideal would be "live and let live".

    And I like to believe most people would agree; at least in words.

     

    In actions though?

    That's a different story...

     

    It's easier said than done.

    And we have a lot yet to learn.

     

  9. 20 minutes ago, gkgyver said:

     

    It really doesn't. People who gauge movie quality based on gender or on how many and which ethnicities are cast, are really disturbing. 

    If it makes a movie better or worse for you based on what color or sex the actors have, that's blatantly racist and sexist. 

    Real life is diverse.

    Having more representation only makes sense.

     

    Ideally we would live in a world where it doesn't matter one way or another.

    And yet here we are, talking about it.

    Apparently it matters.

  10. 5 hours ago, gkgyver said:

    Destroys hyperspace. 

    Thought TFA already did that with its "jump from zero to hyperspace" and the other way around in one movie.

     

    Actually, that is something I could've done without altogether.

    The amount of "playing with simple travel" was quite excessive in the entire ST.

     

    The only part I like is that, in the moment at least, the effect of the Holdo manoeuvre is quite stunning.

     

    30 minutes ago, mstrox said:

    He literally burned a tree.  The books from the tree were in the Falcon at the end of TLJ and Rey uses them in TROS.

    Exactly.

    Plus, those books were introduced in the very same movie.

  11. 15 minutes ago, Jay said:

    I find all the Disney Star Wars movies equally boring and forgettable

    In the end, they kind-of were.

     

    They could've said something.

    They could've said a lot.

     

    About the size of the galaxy.

    About luck versus destiny.

    About inclusiveness opposed to "us vs. them".

    About (and so on and so on).

     

    But they didn't.

    Not really.

     

    Unless you consider TLJ as saying something about "making mistakes and learning from them".

  12. 33 minutes ago, gkgyver said:

    The consensus after TLJ was that everybody wondered where Episode IX would go with 2/3 of the villains dead. 

    And even more than 2/3rd of the heroes dead.

     

    There were so few characters left that in 2 hours, a lot could be done with them.

    There was even space to focus on character over spectacle, for a less visually epic, but more thoughtful finale instead.

     

    And wasn't it exciting to NOT know where things were headed?

    To truly venture into the unknown?

  13. 47 minutes ago, gkgyver said:

    TLJ is written as a finale. Finn and Rose end up kissing in a dramatic way, Finn beats Phasma, Rey and Kylo kill Snoke. Rey comes to the aid of Leia as a powerful Jedi. 

    Killing off both Phasma and Snoke, and killing off Luke Skywalker as a bitter hermit, left Episode IX with almost nothing. 

    In a way, indeed that is true.

    And in a way, that was a GOOD thing.

     

    Like @Holko says, that allowed the next film in the series enough freedom to NOT remake RotJ.

    To maybe skip on the Rey's parentage and the superweapons and the old villains.

    And instead focus on what exactly this series truly wanted to leave behind as its final, undiluted core message.

     

    As it is, I honestly don't know what TROS was trying to say.

    It seemed to be too busy regurgitating the past to say much of anything.

     

    The one message I remember liking is "evil wins by making us believe we're alone, even though we're not".

    That's one I would very much wish would stick in people's minds.

     

  14. 11 minutes ago, Pellaeon said:

    honestly, I hate the idea that the audience is to blame for speculating about stuff. That post-TFA fandom was a very energetic and fun one, fueled in no small part by all the speculating and theories.

    Fair enough; it CAN be fun.

    And indeed for a while, I followed along and it was.

     

    12 minutes ago, Pellaeon said:

    I really doubt most people will be butthurt about their theories being proved false, as long as the movie is good.

    Agreed; I don't believe most people were like that either.

    Only some of them. Some very vocal ones. :(

  15. 36 minutes ago, Chen G. said:

    Therefore, going into The Last Jedi, when Rian Johnson started asking (rather late in the game) who Rey's parents were, I knew he was going to land on the conclusion that they were nobody. But instead of just doing it, he made a big buildup about it, clearly intending for the reveal to be a surprising shock. That's what I call a low-hanging fruit. But then, here comes JJ Abrams and says Rey is indeed related to a legacy character, so maybe it wasn't really such a low hanging fruit?

    Based on just the movies, indeed I agree with you there.

    The question of Rey's parentage was never very relevant in TFA at all.

    Almost a complete non-issue, as far as I'm concerned.

     

    But then the fandom and the JJ Mystery Box come in.

    And with the "Skywalker everywhere", suddenly it gets blown far out of proportion.

     

    When it never needed to be.

    Because why wouldn't it be a BIG galaxy?

    It's a whole GALAXY, for crying out loud!

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