Pieter Boelen

A Collectors' Edition? Who are the collectors anyway? Since it concerns John Williams' music, one might assume that WE are supposed to be those "collectors", right? Would be interesting if it would actually BE what they advert it to be for a change: An edition of the Star Wars scores to satisfy the "COLLECTORS", also known as "US".

Williams used what theme was appropriate. The other themes weren't really nescessary nor appropriate. But there are scenes in films 4-7 where Voldemort's Theme, A Window to the Past or Fawkes' Theme would be VERY appropriate. I would personally love to hear a sad but beautiful version of Fawkes' Theme for the ending of Harry Potter 6. That's what I imagine the music to sound like when I read the book. Also PoA is simply utterly great music that is good enough to not need past themes that much. The same can not be said for Potter 4 and 5. The music is OK, but could definitly benefit both from the appropriate use of established themes as well as having an identity of their own. Somehow I don't really find much of an identity in Potters 4 and 5. The same can be said for many modern scores though: There are bad ones, there are good ones, but many of the good ones still don't really have much of an identity.

Alan Silvestri is great. But how about James Newton Howard as well?

Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone for me. But only because that's what I heard the most music of. I haven't heard much of the unreleased music from Prisoner of Azkaban outside the film and I can't remember much from in the film. I still love the music to Prisoner of Azkaban, even though I don't really like the film too much. Order for me: 1) Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone Great themes, great use of themes, captures the atmosphere of both the film and the books brilliantly. 2) Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban Great emotion in the beautiful Window to the Past, the elegant but sad Buckbeak's Flight, the absolutely bone-chilling finale music combining the dementor music with the simple Patronus music, layered with a Window to the Past. Captures the spirit of the book brilliantly, even though the film does not. 3) Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets The Chamber of Secrets and Fawkes' Theme are great and completely appropriate themes. The rest of the music is pretty good, but not in the league of the above two scores. 4) Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix A pretty good score, but not enough new themes and not much thematic development. All tracks have something enjoyable about them and no tracks are truly great. Pretty good use of Hedwig's Theme. I especially like it's usuage in the opening track. Although it's far from John Williams quality, it does sound Potterish. 5) Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire I really don't care much for this one. Some tracks are somewhat enjoyable, but much of the music completely misses the mark. The First Task was begging for better music than what it got. It requires exciting "Flying on broomstick, chased by dragon" music. Instead it got "Look, a dragon! Look, it's still there! Dragon! DRAGON!" music. Only a couple of seconds of that track actually did justice to the "exciting flight on a broomstick" aspect of the scene and the rest of the music only focussed on the dragon. The themes are OK, but none of the music feels at home in the Potter world. I personally think there should be some more thematic integrity between the films. Fawkes' Theme should be used where appropriate and I want the return of Voldemort's Theme and A Window to the Past. These are all great themes that could and can be put to great use in many scenes in films 4-7.

Favourite: John Williams beyond a shadow of a doubt. Other composers have written good scores and there are several other brilliant composers, but John Williams is simply the best. Least feavourite: Alan Menken. He might write memorable songs, but I don't like any of his music. And he won more Oscars than he should have, based on the amount of Oscars John Williams won.

Raiders March.

Does anyone have this release? It seems pretty interesting. It includes, amongst others, music from the Pirates of the Caribbean films performed by actual orchestra.

I am thinking of buying this DVD, but I would like the version with the score only track, of course. So the question is: Which version has the score only track and how do you access it?

Hello all, It seems there are rather a lot of new films coming up that might be of some interest. But with the amount of films that are upcoming, how to distinguish between the good and the bad? So the question is: Which of the new films are you looking forward to? Which ones will suck? Why? A selection of the upcoming films: Stardust Directed by: Matthew Vaughn Music by: Ilan Eshkeri Release Date: 4 October 2007 In a countryside town bordering on a magical land, a young man makes a promise to his beloved that he'll retrieve a fallen star by venturing into the magical realm. Beowulf Directed by: Robert Zemeckis Music by: Alan Silvestri Release Date: 22 November 2007 The warrior Beowulf must fight and defeat the monster Grendel who is terrorizing towns, and later, Grendel's mother, who begins killing out of revenge. The Golden Compass Directed by: Chris Weitz Music by: Alexandre Desplat Release Date: 6 December 2007 In a parallel universe, young Lyra Belacqua journeys to the far North to save her best friend and other kidnapped children from terrible experiments by a mysterious organization. I Am Legend Directed by: Francis Lawrence Music by: James Newton Howard Release Date: 20 December 2007 Robert Neville is the last man alive. He busies himself with preparing for a nightly attack from the rest of the world - all of which have transformed into blood-thirsty vampires. National Treasure 2: Book of Secrets Directed by: Jon Turteltaub Music by: Trevor Rabin Release Date: 10 January 2008 Treasure hunter Benjamin Franklin Gates looks to discover the truth behind the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, by uncovering the mystery within the 18 pages missing from assassin John Wilkes Booth's diary. The Spiderwick Chronicles Directed by: Mark Waters Music by: James Horner Release Date: 13 March 2008 Upon moving into the run-down Spiderwick Estate with their mother, twin brothers Jared and Simon Grace, along with their sister Mallory, find themselves pulled into an alternate world full of faeries and other creatures. 10,000 BC Directed by: Roland Emmerich Music by: Harald Kloser Release Date: 20 March 2008 A prehistoric epic that follows a young mammoth hunter's journey through uncharted territory to secure the future of his tribe. The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep Directed by: Jay Russell Music by: James Newton Howard Release Date: 20 March 2008 A lonely boy discovers a mysterious egg that hatches a sea creature of Scottish legend. Indiana Jones IV Directed by: Steven Spielberg Music by: John Williams Release Date: 22 May 2008 The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian Directed by: Andrew Adamson Music by: Harry Gregson-Williams Release Date: 2 July 2008 The Pevensie siblings return to Narnia, where they are enlisted to once again help ward off an evil king and restore the rightful heir to the land's throne, Prince Caspian. Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince Directed by: David Yates Music by: Nicholas Hooper Release Date: 21 November 2008 As Harry Potter begins his 6th year at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, he discovers an old book marked mysteriously "This book is the property of the Half-Blood Prince" and begins to learn more about Lord Voldemort's dark past. The Lovely Bones Directed by: Peter Jackson Music by: Unknown Release Date: 2008 A young girl who was brutally raped and murdered, watches the effects of her death on her family from Heaven, as her parents drift apart, her father becomes obsessed with vengeance and her sister grows into the woman she would never be.

Nice! Congratulations on finishing yet another suite. I'm downloading it right now. BTW: I once made attached covers for my attempted Star Wars prequel edits. They are meant to be similar to the Special Edition covers that were released by Sony. I still have the PSD files, so I could change the text on the covers for you so that you could use them for your suites if you like.

Nicely done. I really like that story you made up. Especially the John Williams reference, of course.

I personally don't really see any need to have Sean Connery in Indy IV. I liked him a lot in The Last Crusade, but I think they can make a better Indy IV without relying on the past too much. The only character I really want to see make a return, apart from Indy himself, is Sallah. I would also like to see Marcus Brody again, but Denholm Elliott died, so that wouldn't work. I don't think that having Henry Jones, Marion, Short Round and Willie Scott in the fourth film is going to make it a much better film. They'd probably all have little cameos that don't have much to do with the story. Although it would be great if they could bring in these characters into the story in a believable way that really contributes to the story. Still I'm very much looking forward to Indiana Jones IV.

I hope London Symphony Orchestra. I haven't got the slightest idea if they actually WILL use the LSO though.

Basil Poledouris score: Starship Troopers Basil Poledouris theme: Theology/Civilization (Conan the Barbarian), Lonesome Dove, Quigley Down Under Basil Poledouris cue/track: Battle of the Mounds (Conan the Barbarian), Battle Montage (Farewell to the King), Denouement/End Title (Flesh & Blood) Basil Poledouris album: Conan the Barbarian Film scored by Basil Poledouris: The Hunt for Red October

I emptied it now. PMs should find me again.

They don't show movies there; they show documentaries there. If I want to see a movie about the Titanic, you'd think I could watch the movie called Titanic. Right? I won't deny that: It IS a good film. I might have liked a different film better, but the current film is a good film.

I didn't say it WOULD have been better; I said I would have LIKED it better. That statement is true. I really would have liked that better. I personally don't see what that particular love story has to do with the history of the Titanic. It could have been used in any other film. Why wasn't it a love story between an officer aboard the ship and a young lady instead? That would have provided an excuse to show more of the goings-on about the actual sailing of the ship. AND the reason for the sinking. I wanted to see Titanic to see why the Titanic sank. And although I admit it is a pretty good film, it wasn't really about the sinking of the Titanic at all. It was a love story that was set against the background of the Titanic history. I would've liked it the other way around: The history of the Titanic with a love story in it. Or no love story at all; I don't quite understand why just about all films need a love story. Having a personal story in the film or having the personal story BE the story are two different things. I expected the film to be about the Titanic. It wasn't. It was about the love story. In short: What the film is, is pretty good. But it simply isn't what I would have liked from a film called Titanic.

Yeah; Sorry for that. The latest I heard on the issue is that it should be up and running again in a couple of days. I don't really dare hoping for it though.

You're right. But I would've liked if it WAS a movie about the sea. That was the one thing I didn't like about that whole movie: Although it did play out at sea, it didn't really have much to do with the sea. If I had made that movie, I would've shown a lot more of the goings-on at the bridge and much less of the love story. I still don't understand what business a love story has in the story of the sinking of the Titanic. I would've thought the movie should've been about the Titanic and it's sinking. But that's just me, I suppose.

I don't mean "swashbuckling". I mean "seaworthy". I don't think the main theme for Mutiny on the Bounty is swashbuckling per se, but it sure IS "seaworthy". You are right that swashbuckling music would not fit in Titanic. But some "seaworthy" music for the sailing-around-on-the-ocean shots sure would've been nice.

Horror: Hans Zimmer Reason: I don't care about horror films and I don't care about Hans Zimmer either With his usual MV music, he can probably make any good horror film extremely not-scary, which is exactly how I like my horror films Drama: Howard Shore Reason: I only ever heard LotR of his, but it seems to me it is more like dramatic music than fantasy music Modern Action: Jerry Goldsmith Reason: Jerry Goldsmith is very good at writing action music for modern action films, such as Air Force One Fun Seek-the-treasure Adventure: John Williams Reason: INDIANA JONES! Pirate Film: Alan Silvestri Reason: Bring us Silvestri's PotC!!! Epic Historical Adventure: Basil Poledouris Reason: Conan, Flesh & Blood, need I say more? Sci-Fi: David Arnold Reason: Is pretty good at writing Sci-Fi music, such as for Stargate and Independence Day Comedy: John Debney Reason: He writes music for comedies all the time. Though I would prefer to hire him for an action film with occasional comedy Mystery: Harry Gregson-Williams Reason: Let's give him something new to do Romance: James Horner Reason: I don't care about romantic films and I don't care about James Horner either. His music does sound very romantic most of the time, so he'd probably be quite able to to it Fantasy: James Newton Howard Reason: Although he hasn't yet scored a big fantasy movie such as Harry Potter or Narnia, I'm sure he would do a great job at it

I don't know about Titanic; I am not thoroughly impressed with that music. Seems too new-age for my taste. But the worst thing about that music is that it simply doesn't sound "seaworthy". Although one could argue that the Titanic herself wasn't seaworthy either, considering that she sank."Seaworthyness" is a bit of an odd concept that I have made up myself. It is a bit hard to explain, but it is something that is found in Cutthroat Island and especially in Bronislau Kaper's Mutiny on the Bounty. It is also found in the second half of Jaws and occasionally in Hook. It is even found in some parts of the first Pirates of the Caribbean, although to a much lesser extent. But the scene where Jack and Will escape from Port Royal in the HMS Interceptor certainly does have some "seaworthy" quality. I can do nothing but agree with you on that one. I absolutely love the score to Cutthroat Island. All I meant is that I would very much like to hear what John Williams would come up with for such a film. But one thing is for certain: There is nothing wrong with the score Cutthroat Island already has and it certainly doesn't need replacing in any way. I would also very much like to hear what Alan Silvestri would've come up with for PotC. I think that he would have made those films much more better, as Captain Jack would say. Perhaps Alan Silvestri might even have written a better and/or more appropriate score for those films than John Williams would have done. But I'll never know unless they BOTH rescore the film(s). Which I wouldn't mind them doing, actually. What I would like best is simply to have more "seaworthy" music. There is far too few of it as far as I'm concerned. I absolutely love the sea and sailing (that's why I will be doing just that in February), so more is always better in my opinion. If anyone has some recommendations on possible "seaworthy" music that I am missing out on, please PM me the title of the score(s) so that this thread won't go off-topic any further.

As far as I'm concerned: Any film that calls for good seafaring/piratey music. Examples would be Pirates of the Caribbean, Cutthroat Island and perhaps even Titanic.

An meant an all-out pirate movie; not a movie with piratey elements. But as long as John Williams doesn't score an all-out pirate movie, at least we do have Hook and the second half of Jaws. Which is pretty darn good piratey music anyway.

I notice Cutthroat Island is not on that list. I personally love that score and I don't think it needs to be rescored at all, but I would still like to hear John Williams' music for a pirate movie.