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Posts posted by Pieter Boelen
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Just in case you're interested: I should be able to find some place to upload this score so everybody can download without any limitations. I have a lot of webspace that I could use.
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I bought it from the Fame music store in Amsterdam about a year ago or so. The next time I got there, they had another one again. They also have it at the library here. It doesn't seem overly rare to me, but it might be a bit rare. I'm pretty happy to have that CD.
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How about Patrick Doyle? Before Potter 4 was released, I heard people claim he is a good composer. I only did hear Potter 4, so I can't judge, but I have been thoroughly unimpressed with that one.
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Actually, The Scorpion King doesn't sound much like the first two. For some reason, a rock influence has been added to the music. Which actually works reasonably well. It's not overdone at least. Apart from the track "Boo!". That one does feel out of place. The rest is pretty good. And there are some genuinely good parts in there.
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Now this is a truly tough choice. Goldsmith's music is excellent, but so is Silvestri's. I find Silvestri's music more enjoyable, especially the action sequences. But Goldsmith's music is perfect for the film as well. The Mummy Returns movie isn't as good as the first film though. Both scores are better on the complete editions though. Lots of absolutely excellent music was left off from the OSTs, such as several action tracks from The Mummy and the entire finale from The Mummy Returns.
I will also say that John Debney's The Scorpion King is pretty good as well. Not quite as good as Goldsmith's or Silvestri's music and not as good as Cutthroat Island either, but still definitly good.
In the end, I can't really make a well-judged choice about this. Both are simply excellent.
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Would it be possible to remove the sound effect files that play during those cutscenes?
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I liked Henry Jones a lot in The Last Crusade, but I don't see any nescessity to have him in Indy IV. Not in a large role anyway. He had a large role in Indy III; Indy IV should be different. Good as well, but different.
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It most certainly does. I bought it as soon as it was released. I just had to have for the full Battle sequence alone. And the rest is just as good. Absolutely awesome. This is one score that can compete with John Williams' usual writing.If you haven't done so yet, get the 2-disc Prometheus release. It rocks.
Depending on my mood, the rest is either OK, tolerable or bad. That one scene truly is the highlight, musically.Too bad it's pretty much downhill from there. -
What do you people think of The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad? There are a few tracks I like (the main theme, for example), but so far I haven't gotten myself to listen to the score in it's entirety. Are there any nice action/adventure tracks in there?
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The first time I heard that, I thought it was the Imperial March. I haven't listened to it enough to confirm this with absolute certainty, but it certainly sounds like it. Knowing the usual level of neat thematic references Williams puts into his scores, I expect it to be an intentional reference to the Imperial March.I don't know the exact source, but I'm pretty sure it's a reference to the Imperial March. -
That is at least true for me. I got into film music with John Williams' scores for Indiana Jones, Jurassic Park and Star Wars, but I really liked the first Pirates of the Caribbean score. I say "liked", because after reading a lot of positive reviews about "Cutthroat Island", I bought the OST and was so impressed by it, that my appreciation for PotC dropped pretty badly. Now I think PotC is an OK result for a score composed in a short time. But scores like Air Force One and King Kong show that much better music can be composed in a short time.I would hazard a guess that most young people who like POTC/Zimmer/MV and listen to film music on a regular basis will change their minds as they get older.There are parts that work pretty well in the first PotC though. Especially the entrance of Jack Sparrow. The music actually works excellent there.
I read that Zimmer is using a large orchestra and even choir for PotC 2:
Source: http://www.scorereviews.com/forum/topic.as...id=1929&page=10Question: Could you tell us about the amount of orchestral players, something like that?Answer: I'm not at the sessions. But from what I know, it's huge. Like 107-pieces or something. Large orchestra with strings, brass and WOODWINDS. Choir is recording in London.
Not sure if this information is reliable at all though.
I'm still hoping for the best. I really like adventure music, especially pirate music. I think Muppet Treasure Island by Zimmer was pretty nicely piratey-sounding, even if it did make heavy use of synths. So Zimmer can do a good (acceptable?) job. In theory.
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If Verbinski wanted Zimmer-like music, why did he hire Alan Silvestri at first? He could've known that Silvestri would come up with something very much not Zimmer-like. It wouldn't surprise me if Verbinski really did want Silvestri to write some genuine pirate music and that the sole reason for Silvestri being fired is Bruckheimer insisting on a Zimmer-score.
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In case anybody is interested in some news about Hans Zimmer's score for Pirates of the Caribbean 2: Dead Man's Chest:
At the moment, I'm not exactly certain what to make of this. I really like scores to pirate movies, most notably Cutthroat Island and Hook. I used to like the score to the first PotC film a lot, until my interest dropped after hearing Cutthroat Island. I really want the score to the second film to be good, but what I see, read and hear from these two sources haven't really given me any confidence that it will be good. Seems like Hans Zimmer is having rather oddish ideas. Almost as if he insists on coming up with something truly original, but fails miserably, because thinking of something original isn't always the best choice. Sometimes writing something in the same style as has been done previously for similar films is a better idea and that certainly applies to Pirates. Pirate movie should have swashbuckling orchestral music. So I hope he'll be adding enough swashbuckling orchestra in... :?
The soundtrack is scheduled for release on July 4th.
Apparently, this is what Hans Zimmer said about his work on the first Pirates of the Caribbean:
Well, I thought honesty was a virtue! But seriously, Jerry Bruckheimer quite rightly asked me not to give him "that old-fashioned Pirate music," and Gore Verbinski, who I adore and did The Ring with, said, "Well, it is a pirate movie, so we have to disguise it." In the end, I spent a day and a half writing tunes, Klaus Badelt wrote a lot of stuff, and we rolled up our sleeves, got drunk, behaved in a debauched way, and produced a score!
They're joking, right?
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One wonders why they keep re-recording the same pieces of music. I would be more interested in hearing new music. MUCH more, I might add.
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Sensible = disliking AotC?
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Question: The Episode II score: is it really so bad?
Answer: No, it's not.
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Raiders March, anyone? :roll:
Pretty hard question, really. There are so ridiculously many good themes. Most of them written by good not-so-old John Williams.
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No, I indeed am not. I never listened to it in it's entirety, so it's either Willow or nothing. I can't really make proper judgement. I could also say that John Barry's King Kong is my favourite score from 1976 because that is the only 1976 score I have on my HD, but I never listed to it at all. :roll:
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Stepmom is from 1998.
Woops. I knew something was wrong. Thanks for correcting me. I changed my list now.
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1940
The Sea Hawk (Erich Wolfgang Korngold)
1958
The 7th Voyage of Sinbad (Bernard Herrmann)
1962
Mutiny on the Bounty (Bronislau Kaper)
1975
Jaws (John Williams)
1976
Nothing that I know of
1977
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope (John Williams)
1978
1. Jaws 2 (John Williams)
2. Superman: The Movie (John Williams)
1979
Star Trek I: The Motion Picture (Jerry Goldsmith)
or
The Great Train Robbery (Jerry Goldsmith)
or
1941 (John Williams)
Not sure
1980
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (John Williams)
1981
Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark (John Williams)
1982
E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (John Williams)
1983
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (John Williams)
1984
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (John Williams)
1985
1. King Solomon's Mines (Jerry Goldsmith)
2. Back to the Future I (Alan Silvestri)
1986
Nothing that I know of
1987
Empire of the Sun (John Williams)
or
The Witches of Eastwick (John Williams)
Not sure
1988
Willow (James Horner)
Not sure
1989
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (John Williams)
1990
Back to the Future III (Alan Silvestri)
or
Home Alone (John Williams)
Not sure
1991
Hook (John Williams)
1992
Far and Away (John Williams)
1993
Jurassic Park (John Williams)
1994
Stargate (David Arnold)
1995
1. Cutthroat Island (John Debney)
2. First Knight (Jerry Goldsmith)
3. Waterworld (James Newton Howard)
1996
Independence Day (David Arnold)
1997
1. The Lost World: Jurassic Park (John Williams)
2. Air Force One (Jerry Goldsmith)
1998
1. Mulan (Jerry Goldsmith)
2. The Mask of Zorro (James Horner)
3. Godzilla (David Arnold)
1999
1. Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (John Williams)
2. The Mummy (Jerry Goldsmith)
3. The 13th Warrior (Jerry Goldsmith)
2000
1. Dinosaur (James Newton Howard)
2. The Patriot (John Williams)
2001
1. Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (John Williams)
2. The Mummy Returns (Alan Silvestri)
3. Atlantis: The Lost Empire (James Newton Howard)
2002
1. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (John Williams)
2. Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (John Williams)
3. The Scorpion King (John Debney)
2003
1. Sinbad, Legend of the Seven Seas (Harry Gregson-Williams)
2. Children of Dune (Brian Tyler)
3. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (Howard Shore)
2004
1. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (John Williams)
2. Hidalgo (James Newton Howard)
3. Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (Edward Shearmur)
2005
1. Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (John Williams)
2. Kingdom of Heaven (Harry gregson-Williams)
3. King Kong (James Newton Howard)
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It used to be available for download from a site, but it was removed from there a long time ago, because of space reasons. For my own enjoyment, I have compiled a soundtrack from this game. I tried to order the tracks in such a way that it more-or-less tells the story of the game. The game is an open-ended RPG game, so the tracks are basically underscoring for walking around the towns/jungles, fighting with enemies and sea battles. Naturally, this doesn't make for very Williams-like music. Many of the tracks might not be as piratey as you'd expect, but I still like them and there are some tracks that either are really nice or contain really nice parts. A lot of the tracks aren't actually used in the English version of the game and I took several tracks from Sea Dogs as well. Sea Dogs is a game PotC is a "sequel" to and which is said to have better music. I can upload this soundtrack for you somewhere. I will PM you the link. If anybody else is wanting to give it a listen, PM me as well. I am interested in what you people think.Is this score downloadable somewhere? If so, please PM me. I know it's not hard to compose a score which is better than Badelt's POTC, but I'm alway interested in videogame music so I'm curious about this one.Edit: I have uploaded this soundtrack, so if you would like to give it a listen, PM me for a link.
1 - Opening Theme
Sung in Russian. Not used in the English version of the game
2 - Oxbay Harbour
From Sea Dogs
3 - The French are Coming!
From Sea Dogs
4 - Escaping the Attackers
From Sea Dogs
5 - Sea Battle near Redmond
6 - Redmond Port
Not used in the English version of the game
7 - Robert Christopher Silehard
8 - Sailing the Archipelago
Not used in the English version of the game
9 - Douwesen Island
10 - The Dutch Shipyard
11 - Encounter with the Mefisto
12 - Saving the Animists' Captives
Not used in the English version of the game
13 - Isla Muelle
14 - The Local Pub
15 - The Spanish Governor
16 - Sea Battle with the Portuguese
From Sea Dogs
17 - Caribbean Hurricane
18 - Walk to the Smugglers' Lair
19 - Fighting for a New Ship
Not used in the English version of the game
20 - The Incan Treasure
Not used in the English version of the game
21 - Sinking the Black Pearl
22 - End Credits
Bonus: Yo, Ho! Yo, Ho! A Pirate's Life For Me!
Not used in the English version of the game
Bonus: Yo, Ho! Yo, Ho! A Pirate's Life For Me! (Instrumental)
Not used in the English version of the game
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Thanks a lot all. Especially thanks a lot Vosk for taking the time to post your tracklist!
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I make a point in collecting all piratey/seafaring music that I can possibly find. I have the following scores in my collection:
- Captain Blood (Erich Wolfgang Korngold)
Pretty good, but the sound quality is CRAP.
- Cutthroat Island (John Debney)
Absolutely awesome; no doubt about that. The 2-CD edition contains an inordinate amount of great music. Excellent sound quality as well.
- Hook (John Williams)
Absolutely great as well, although some parts are not entirely piratey/seafaring.
- Jaws (John Williams)
Lots of seafaring music. Plus a great score too.
- Jaws 2 (John Williams)
Good one as well with more salty music.
- Muppet Treasure Island (Hans Zimmer)
Probably one of the nicer scores by Hans Zimmer. The main theme actually sounds properly piratey. And I believe this is actually the first and only time I have heard actual trumpets in a Zimmer score. The songs are pretty funny.
- Mutiny on the Bounty (Bronislau Kaper)
Another great score. You can almost hear the salt in the music.
- Peter Pan (James Newton Howard)
A bit piratey at times, but not very much. Fun, but not excellent.
- Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (Klaus Badelt)
I used to like this score quite a lot, but after hearing Cutthroat Island, my interest dropped... completely. It's not bad, according to me. It's fun, but faaaaar from great.
- Pirates of the Caribbean: PC Game (Yuri Poteenko)
I might actually prefer this over the movie soundtrack. This music has got nothing to do with the movie at all, but it's very good nonetheless. Nice sailory tunes, as well as nice battle music. It was written for a PC game, so there is no thematic development. I haven't even been able to find true themes at all.
- Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas (Harry Gregson-Williams)
Great fun, absolutely excellent. Lots of good action music, good thematic development. Great score.
- The 7th Voyage of Sinbad (Bernard Herrmann)
I haven't listened to this in full, but it sounded pretty good. Very nice main theme.
- The Golden Voyage of Sinbad (Miklós Rózsa)
The sound quality is not very good, but the music is (although I haven't listened to this in full either).
- The Buccanneer (Elmer Bernstein)
I didn't listen to this one in full either, but what I heard didn't sound very piratey really.
- The Goonies (Dave Grusin)
Contains some more-or-less piratey music at points. Nice score.
- The Plymouth Adventure (Miklós Rózsa)
Apart from containing themes based on psalms, this also contains pretty good seafaring music in parts.
- The Sea Hawk (Erich Wolfgang Korngold)
The score that started it all. Although I like Cutthroat Island better, this one is certainly excellent.
- The Sea Wolf (Erich Wolfgang Korngold)
Didn't sound very seafaring or piratey to me.
- Treasure Planet (James Newton Howard)
Apart from including moderny influences like electric guitars, this score also contains a fair amount of good piratey music. Skip the songs though.
How rare is Far and Away?
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I thought it might have been. They have a lot of film music there in comparision with other stores.