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Posts posted by Pieter Boelen
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I tried finding both the Memoirs of a Geisha and Zathura soundrack on both the Free Record Shop and Fame website, but they both didn't have it. It's as if they are all completely uninterested in movie music. If anyone sees them in the stores, please notify me. I want them! :mrgeen:
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Most important question: Will you ever score a Harry Potter movie again or would you like to do so?
The rest, I suppose he doesn't have much to say about. Otherwise I would also be interested in a question about complete Indiana Jones score releases, proper Star Wars prequel score release and his work on writing music for Star Wars scenes that are currently stuck with tracked music.
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Indiana Jones, hands down. I also like the Harry Potter films (with #3 being a terrible disappointment), but I don't like the movies quite as much as the books. I like all the Star Wars movies, but don't really love them. They're just fun. I also very much like Jurassic Park, Lord of the Rings and Back to the Future. I never did care much for James Bond. And I never saw most of the other films mentioned.
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Very true indeed. That was one of the most major let-downs for me. I had imagined the music to implement both fast-paced theme for the flying on the broom (a.k.a. Numbus 200 theme, even though the broom is now a Firebolt) and a large loud theme for the dragon chasing Harry. The large loud theme was there, but it was slow and the fast-paced flying music was completely missing. You said it: D-U-L-L.the doyle score succeeded in part, like the entrance into the great hall by the visiting students, and failed in others, noticable in the dragon sequence, D-U-L-L
I saw Gof yesterday and thought it was quite a good one. Defenitly much better than the completely and utter mistake that was Prisoner of Azkaban. The only thing I liked about PoA was the absolutely excellent music. The story of the movie was messed up and hardly made sense anymore (which is rather a shame, because I like PoA best of all the books). There were a lot of things in the movie that were completely superfluous, wasting movie time that could've been spent on enhancing the story. Plus a lot of things suddenly looked rather different from the PS and CoS movies. The Patronus didn't at all look as it was supposed to and Lupin was a CREEP!
On to GoF now: Lot of humour and the story has been handled much better. It is realy noticeable that a lot is missing. Actually, the only thing the movie seriously lacked was a score by John Williams. The music by Patrick Doyle is OK, I suppose, but nowhere near John Wiliams' usual brilliance. It works in the film sure enough and defenitly makes it a better movie then it would've been without the music. But even far-from-excellent music can add something to a movie (imagine National Treasure without the music; the music isn't very good, but having no music would've been even worse). I miss the excellent themes* (having Window to the Past, Fawkes' Theme and Voldemort's Theme in there would've made it soo much better), exciting (and fun) acton music and truly dramatic music (the music from the end of PS is scarier than the entire GoF movie). Best musical moments in the movie: Whenever Hedwig's Theme was being used. I suppose I'll have to do with the Patrick Doyle score though. I seems to have done his best. Unfortunately, Doyle's best is rather lacking in comparision with Williams' best.
That John Williams version of the Hogwarts March is excellent. That is indeed much more of how it should've been. Thanks boom-tzzzz.
About people bashing CoS: I really liked the first movie when it came out. I liked the second movie better. I was GREATLY disappointed in PoA. GoF is quite good though. It is the best movie. Or would've been if the music was better (or: John Williams-composed).
* When I watched Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone some time ago, I had non-stop goosebumps for the full duration of the movie due to the music not stopping being overly excellent. BRING ON THE 2-DISC EDITION!
Edit: Be sure to vote in the Scorereviews poll asking which is the best Potter score. I voted for The Sorcerer's Stone (whch should've read Philosopher's Stone, of course), which, shockingly enough, doesn't even have more votes than GoF yet. Luckily, PoA at least does rank higher than PS.
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Could "one of the most prolific film composers of the 1980's" refer to John Williams? He did write a lot of popular acclaimed scores during the 1980's. Then "a never-before-released action score" might refer to Temple of Doom! 8O
I'm afraid I'm being much too optimistic here, right?
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I think, after such a productive year as this one with four scores, I would say it wouldn't be a surprise if next year wouldn't see much new John Williams scores. Not that that makes me any happier. I can't wait for Indiana Jones IV. 8O
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Rather a hard question, this. John Williams is certainly the composer I consider to be best. He wrote the most music I like and almost all the best music I like. I like works from other movie composers too (especially John Debney's Cutthroat Island), but I reckon John Williams is the best composer. I personally don't like classical music too much (I find it much more dull and boring and it certainly has no action in it), so I cannot make a good judgment on this issue. I am highly biased in the favour of John Williams. 8O
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Woops. Pressed the wrong button. I meant to vote for The Matrix. STUPID!
I didn't even like the first Matrix movie at all. But I do like all the Star Wars prequels, even though they might have their faults.
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Most notably Far and Away and Schindler's List(!), but also Jaws 2 and Seven Years In Tibet. I usually try to watch the movie that the music was written for, even if the movie is crap.
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Easy listening? It's so easy listening I would be able to put the Voldemort cue up over dinner without my parents wanting to turn it off. I'm sure they'd run for the volume or skip control as soon as I'd try to listen to Quidditch, Third Year. The music seems to be lacking 1) complicated orchestrations, 2) memorable themes, 3) thrilling music (like in music relying on complicated-ness and fastpaced-ness for the thrill and not just on sheer volume), 4) anything resembling a "magical" sound and 5) John Williams composing it.
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I really liked Kingdom of Heaven, Sinbad and Shrek, so I'm quite looking forward to this. I don't mind a little bit MV, as long as it's not overdone. I wished the samples would play for me though; they don't seem to want to. And I do have the latest QuickTime version.
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He's the only good editor I know. Who else is a good editor? Which movies has he/she edited?
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I won't, unless I am somehow overly impressed wen seeing the movie. But I already listened to it once and am more like overly unimpressed. There's no magic, no nice melody's and the action music is severaly lacking, relying more on volume than complicated orchestrations. For the music from the first task, which is a chase scene through the air, there's a lot of slow loud brass (which would go well with the dragon), but since it's a chase scene, I would have preferred something a tad more... fastpaced. I would've liked something like a cross between the first and third year quidditch matches, but new nevertheless. The Nimbus theme shoul'd've been in there, even though Harry flies a Firebolt now. Plus I'm sure I wouldn't have almost fallen asleep during the Voldemort scene is John Williams' Voldemort theme and Fawkes' theme were in there, with some nice choir to back it up.
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I noticed that there are quite a lot of scores to be released during the next two months that could be very nice indeed. I was wondering what your views are on these upcoming scores. Or if you know of some other upcoming scores of interest.
The Chronicles of Narnia
By Harry Gregson-Williams
Harry Gregson-Williams already wrote some great music (Kingdom of Heaven, Sinbad, etc.) to date and I have great hopes that this one will be excellent as well. I am hoping for a sort-of fun cross between Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter or something like that. Hopefully with some forceful choir like in the trailer as well.
Zathura
By John Debney
The first adventure movie for John Debney since the amazing Cutthroat Island. I really hope this one will be good as well. The soundclips I've heard sound quite good. A bit like Cutthroat Island in space. I wouldn't complain about a Cutthroat Island in space.
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
By Patric Doyle
It is already available, but not on CD yet. I listened to it on the AOL listening part once and am officially unimpressed. I actually almost fell asleep during the Voldemort track. That might have something to do with me being sick at the time, but I am still sure that nothing of the sorts woulf have happened if John Williams had done GoF. Now let's all just hope that John will come back to the series eventually. I love Harry Potter and I want it to have the best music possible. Even though I am fearing I will like the movies less and less. I didn't like PoA very much. There was so much in there that didn't make sense either in context with the books, the previous films or the film itself. Even though I do like PoA as the best of the books.
King Kong
By James Newton Howard
James Newton Howard might have a very tight schedule, but I still reckon King Kong has all the makings to get a good adventurous and fun score, even if it's not entirely Oscar-worthy. I'm sure JNH can do a good job on it. I actually don't mind that he is scoring it instead of Howard Shore. Having only ever heard LotR from Shore, I am not sure if he'd come up with fun adventurous music.
Memoirs of a Geisha and Munich
By John Williams
They're John Williams. Of course they're of interest.
The Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring (extended edition):
By Howard Shore
I'm not sure myself if I really have to get that. Although I do agree Howard Shore's music for LotR is excellent, I find most of it to not be very much enjoyable. Can you please tell me why the extended release is worth getting?
I am very interested in your views on these and other upcoming scores of interest.
(BTW: I am also hoping for a nice score for Pirates of the Caribbean 2. I would have preferred to see Alan Silvestri try again. Or at least to give Klaus Badelt a chance to do a good job on it by giving him more time this time (he can write nice music. Proof: The Time Machine). But maybe Hans Zimmer will come up with something properly piratey as well. I sure hope so. But I'm not at all sure if those hopes are justified.)
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Thanks a lot for all your suggestions. I have now bought several more scores through an MP3 download site. Unfortunately, there sometimes seems to be some errors in the tracks, so I'm working on fixing them as good as I can. Or at least minimizing them. I suppose it is not according to the board rules to ask if people could send me the tracks that are a bit messed up, right? Never mind then.
I have gotten the complete bootleg score to First Knight (excellent music, though I haven't listened to it in it's entirety yet). I also got Jaws II, which is also quite nice (though I don't find it manages the same level of excitement as Man Against Beast from the original Jaws). I also got the complete Home Alone 2 (now that I have that one, is Home Alone 1 still worth getting?), Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas (I love that one, though the volume was waaay too high when I downloaded it first, so I turned it down. Not sure if that did the sound quality much good though), King Solomon's Mines (Jerry Goldsmith; not really excellent, but fun nevertheless), JFK (I don't seem to like it too much yet, but it's John Williams, so I don't mind having it), Superman complete edition (that one was still missing as well) and Tomb Raider 2 (Alan Silvestri; far from excellent, but features some nice moments every now and then). I am probably also getting Peter Pan (I already have some of the tracks; sounds nice enough).
I actually already have the music from Braveheart, Armageddon (complete) and Tomorrow Never Dies, but have so far not listened to them really. I should some time, I suppose. I actually have rather a lot of music I haven't listened to. :?
I am not really into James Horner. I like his Mask of Zorro music (and Legend of Zorro is also nice, though seems to be basically more of the same), but that's it really. Not that I ever listened to much of his work, so I can't talk. What is The Perfect Storm like? Does it contain some nice adventurous music in addition to the dramatical stuff, or is it just drama all the way through? Same for Titanic, really. I never even saw the Titanic movie (if I am correct, there is rather a lot more romance in there than I think should be in there).
I'm not really interesting in Danny Elfman or John Barry, but I suppose that is also because I hardly heard any of their music. I did notice that during Spiderman, the music went "ooohh" every time Spidey was flying around. It got a bit tiresome in the end.
I would like to get Stargate, Star Trek: The Motion Picture and some of Korngold's music , but they seem to not be very well available. Unless I haven't looked thoroughly yet.
And is the complete Crimson Tide soundtrack worth getting if you already have the single disc version? I liked parts of it, but they are hidden in waaay too long tracks. And Gabrial Yared's Troy I do not know where to find.
Could you also tell me if Stepmom, Far and Away Volume 2 and Jane Eyre are worth getting and why? I did get one of the tracks from Far and Away Volume 2, but it was more messed up than I can repair. Strange digital artifacts all over the place.
I know I am now forgetting to answer on a lot of your suggestions, but thanks for them anyway!
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Not as far as I am aware. It's available on DVD now. :?Did that film ever make cinemas here?
That would've made more sense, yes. If only the movie had been about Lucky Luke. But, judging by the movie, the title is quite appropriate. Lucky Luke has got hardly anything to do with it. Which I don't think does the movie much good.It seems pretty stupid to me to name the first live-action Lucky Luke film Les Daltons rather than, oh I don't know, Lucky Luke perhaps.
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I've watched the movie, yes. It was during the scene in the crazy Mexican's house during the party, right? I recall thinking exactly the same. I heard some more sort-of familiar music as well, but don't recall what anymore. I think the entire movie is best forgotten. I was hoping it would be as much fun as Asterix: Mission Cleopatra, but it most certainly wasn't. If ever you want to see a good and fun French cartoon-based movie, I recommend watching that one instead.
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I don't care how I'd get a proper full version of the music from Episodes I-III, as long as I get it. If they'd release proper versions, I'd happily buy them. If they don't, I hope someone can give me a hand in getting some bootleg version or something. I'd make them myself according to the instructions available through this site, but unfortunately my sound editing skills are quite bad. Even if I do manage to make a reasonably good edit, I keep hearing the edit because I made the edit myself.
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Last Crusade for me. It's the score that got me into film music in the first place. Defenitly a great one. Bring on the expanded edition!
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What about Hook? Wouldn't that one count?
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No votes for Raiders yet? Talking about shocking! I'll vote Raiders then; defenitly the one I like best.
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Since you have been talking about Nixon a few posts up, thought I'd ask here: Although I do have the music, I never really listened to it. I really like the first track, but never listened to the rest. Are there any other really nice tracks on the album? I can't imagine that the score is in any way bad though. I don't think John Williams can write bad music, unless he'd try on purpose; and even then he might fail. :mrgeen:
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The movie looks quite good to me. I love the time setting. Great time setting for a good adventure movie, which it seems to be. I also don't mind that James Newton Howard has replaced Howard Shore. Of course I cannot make a good judgement, having only ever heard the LotR music by Howard Shore, but the LotR music was, although excellent, not really fun and adventurous. So I don't know if Howard Shore would come up with some good adventurous, bombastic and fun music. On the other hand, James Newton Howard has written some very fine music for adventure movies already (Atlantis: The Lost Empire, Hidalgo, Waterworld, Dinosaur and, to a slightly lesser extent, Treasure Planet), so I'm hoping for some nice and fun adventure music from James Newton Howard. Even if it won't be Oscar-worthy, I still expect it to be fun.
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A few years ago I downloaded The Raiders March from the internet. After that, I started downloading a lot. The first soundtrack I managed to get complete was Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, which I absolutely loved. After that I got seriously hooked. Lucky for me, a few months ago I encountered the Last Crusade soundtrack in a store, so I bought it immediately. I tend to first download soundtracks and then, when I like them enough, buy them. :g1
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Has anyone heard the music to Zathura yet? It was supposed to be officially released the same day as Memoirs of a Geisha. If you have any news about what it's like, please tell me. I am highly interested and want to know if it's worth buying. I hope it is; I hope it'll have some of the same greatness as Cutthroat Islands in it.