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Posts posted by Barnald
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No it is the head-throwing bit. I always think Azog looks better in the flashback, a more natural colour rather than the bluey/white hue he takes on in the current timeline.
It was a pic from Empire's article with Manu Bennett from a few months ago.
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They were probably saying the same thing this time last year...
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There is an extension where Gandalf and Bilbo talk briefly before coming upon Rivendell. Also, I don't think Bilbo has any extra lines in that opening exchange with Gandalf.
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He was pictured at the London AUJ premiere last year with his kids. Even if he didn't like the film (he could have done for all I know), we can hope they did and might convince him to do it!
He did a song for a film PJ produced IIRC so I guess they could be friends. I hope it happens anyway!
I see he wrote the score for West of Memphis, which was produced by Jackson, so you could be right. Fingers crossed.
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He was pictured at the London AUJ premiere last year with his kids. Even if he didn't like the film (he could have done for all I know), we can hope they did and might convince him to do it!
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I'm firmly in the Nick Cave camp at this point.
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This is where it gets really weird - apparently, while Rawls is still credited as Yazneg, the reshoots (I'm guessing all the Yazneg bits? Weathertop for sure) saw him played by movement coach Terry Notary.
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I guess they were trying to avoid the 'Hagrid Mk II' or 'Giant Dwarf' route.
Which is cool. The reason they tried something different is valid, and I'm OK with that. The reason I don't like Beorn's design is not because it doesn't fit the book's description. It's just that I find the end result less than stellar (yes, I know: "Wait and see until you see it on the big screen to make a judgment". But let's face it: will it look that different?).
In other news, the Appendices apparently suggest that Azog is only CGI because PJ realized too late he should have kept Conan Stevens, whose original design apparently resembled the final Azog. So Stevens originally looked more like Azog before he looked like Bolg.Yeah. We talked about that. Apparently, Bolg's design was Azog's original design. See here.
Before that though, Conan Stevens was made-up to look something more like the Azog we know (and love?). There's pics over at TORN showing the various design stages before he arrived at the Bolg look.
And to complicate things, the Yazneg in the final film is not how Azog originally looked when played by John Rawls. I believe it was more of a Freddy Krueger old-man look, like the figure:

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I guess they were trying to avoid the 'Hagrid Mk II' or 'Giant Dwarf' route.
In other news, the Appendices apparently suggest that Azog is only CGI because PJ realized too late he should have kept Conan Stevens, whose original design apparently resembled the final Azog. So Stevens originally looked more like Azog before he looked like Bolg.
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He'll be good in the film. I have faith in Persbrandt...
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Some like it raw...
and wriggling?
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Tom Waits perhaps?
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Don't forget 'Smaug's Song (?)' performed by ?. Have to get that on the cover somewhere.
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It does feel weird, but the feeling is kind of offset by excitement right now, knowing we're getting ever closer.
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I can't tell from those gifs whether he's got four legs or two.
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If 'Erebor' or a cue very similar appears in DoS I'd be willing to forgive Jackson for many of his music-related mishaps in AUJ.
While we're on the subject, it'd be nice to hear some grand version of the 'Dwarf Lords' theme when they're climbing that huge statue. And if he wants to reprise the Dwarrowdelf theme (I know, I know - but I love it so much), he can (a new version of course). If we're reconstituting certain themes, it can become a 'Dwarven Grandeur in Ruin' theme instead.
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Would they all fit after Finn's song finishes?
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How funny would it be if it turned out Shore wrote the music for 'Down, Down to Goblintown'?
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Dear me - it's even more pathetic than I thought possible. Very sad.
Quoted from DjU over at TheOneRing.net forums.
The music during the scene of Bilbo heading off into Hobbiton and lots of shots of Hobbits at the market and doing Hobbity things is unsuprisingly some tracking of "Bag End" from the FotR Complete Recordings ("Bag End" is listed in the End Credits).
It is a VERY similar montage to the one in FotR so the music obviously fits even if it a bit of tracking. The time code relating to that CD track are bits used are 1.06 - to approx 1.40 (it fades behind the dialogue).
The scene ends with Bilbo panicking as he thinks he see Gandalf's Hat, the music for this bit is also "Bag End" - it's a bit 10 or so second part plucked from some where in the 2.05 - 2.30 region - the part in FotR where Bilbo panics he has lost the ring, I think? -
So the young Bilbo scene is unscored but has 'Flaming Red Hair' playing at the party. Must be a popular one round Bilbo's way...
That just leaves Bilbo in the marketplace now.
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That I have no idea about. The marketplace scene is our best hope for new music really:
http://kkwings.tumblr.com/post/64723468459/extended-scene-from-the-hobbit-auj-about-king
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Possibly. I can link it if you want to see it, you'd probably be a better judge than I.
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If PJ does lurk here and saw Faleel's video of the Thorin/Azog confrontation with POTC music, we're in HUGE trouble.
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I just saw the new Thranduil scene and erm...music-wise, it's a mess. Thranduil's theme plays as normal, and is perhaps elongated (without the choral part), but I'm not sure if this is new or just repeated with the choral part removed (the sound was bad). Then, as the dwarf opens the box, it sounds very much like the part where Thorin looks up at Thranduil on the clifftop after he turns away (I'm pretty convinced it was tracked from there anyway). Then, when Thranduil turns and walks away, they play Thranduil's theme again (tracked).
I think the only bit up for debate is that slight extension to Thranduil's theme, but someone can probably clear that up better than I can.

Howard Shore's The Desolation Of Smaug (Hobbit Part 2)
in Tolkien Central
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I think myself and SafeUnderHill are about the only ones with any time for Azog around here.