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1 hour ago, bollemanneke said:Powell is talented enough to do this on his own. Anyone doubting that doesn't know the man's music.
Absolutely, I agree with you. He is a wonderful orchestral composer however if you listen to the podcast and Powell is to believed, he said he came on to the project with Williams already on it and that that was the reason he said yes to the project. Williams apparently like we had thought before, did not come on after the fact.
Even though I would have also loved a Powell only score to this, I did not like 90% of Rogue One, just did not think it worked nor do I think that Gia can really work an orchestra harmonically or can modulate for that matter (just my opinion, no shade) however Powell is magic with an orchestra in front of him. His harmonic language and orchestrations are beautiful. Anyway, even though I would have loved a solo Powell project, I'm excited to hear both the Johns together on this and maybe and I hope, Powell is who they go to for the future Star Wars movies.
54 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said:So if I have got this right, Powell is talking about using existing JW SW music (like The Asteroid Field in that one clip), not new stuff JW made specifically for Solo? Sounds fine.
No what he said, I believe, is that Williams WROTE more than one theme for the Solo movie.
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On 5/10/2018 at 5:17 PM, King Mark said:
it sounds williamsy but not like a Theme, and Williams only composed a theme
But it could be part of the theme and Powell is using it in the underscore?
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Maybe it's a new Indiana Jones rewrite...
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16 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:
Well, JW only wrote the set of new themes and orchestrated them, didn't he?
No, he was supposed to only write some themes but then stepped in and wrote everything you hear on it that is new. Ross only adapted existing material from the first potter movie. All concert arrangements and new underscore was Williams.
8 hours ago, Tom said:Back to Solo (which should be the ONLY topic discussed on this thread), the Powell thread mentions this piece is probably only around 2 minutes. I wonder if Williams will work up a longer piece for concerts/Hal Leonard.
Btw, "only" means "one," as in "solo," so settle down.
If it is only the 2 minute theme without development he will definitely do a longer version for concerts and then Hal Leonard as well. Can't see him conducting a 2 minute piece at a concert.
I really hope it's a good theme for Han....
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22 minutes ago, Margo Channing said:
Silvestri is almost 70. Some comeback.
I meant orchestral composers in General, not Silvestri himself.
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1 hour ago, Stefancos said:
Like Symphonia Of London?
Similar but not the same. Sinfonia of London is contracted by someone else. Isobel Griffiths draws from the LSO first, and then other huge orchestras.
Just saw Avengers IW again. I absolutely love the score. Wish there were more woodwinds but that is my only critique. He played the drama beautifully throughout! Now I can't wait to hear John Powell's score to Solo. Another fantastic orchestral composer. Maybe there's a comeback about to happen!
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If it's in London it's the equivalent of Sandy DeCrescent's orchestra there. I always forget the name of the person, it might be Isobel Griffiths, but the orchestra basically compromises of players from the RPO, LSO, Philharmonia, LPO, BBC etc etc, depends who is in London at the time and who is on tour.
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6 hours ago, John said:
Not below him, I just find it unlikely that he'd use another composer's theme for a character in one of his Star Wars scores.
Why not, If it fits the scene, use it. I always bash on composers when they take over a Williams franchise and don't use the appropriate themes, it has to go both ways!
12 hours ago, PrayodiBA said:Yeah, Powell has a thing for holst. Perhaps you have heard this cue, but yeah, i just share it anyway:
hahaha, total Jupiter inspiration to the max
There's also Walton in there for sure!
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I'm so happy Powell is doing this score. Love the clip and was executed from the get go with him doing it. Can't wait to hear the whole score! Just the way his music comes out of Williams seamlessly is fantastic! Also loved Silvestri in Infinity War!
31 minutes ago, Muad'Dib said:It's like.... like....
Like he knows how to write for orchestra
Mmmhhhmmmm.....
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16 minutes ago, Sharky said:
The NERVE of them! I mean, who do they think they are?
To post here, once must renounce ALL other Hollywood composers, for they are talentless, popmusik dilettantes, who aren't beholden to a staid, antiquated, formalist idea of the perfect musikkomposition!
Heil Williams!
Touché! Didn't quite come out how I meant to say it but I LOVE your post, almost spat out my tea so I am definitely not changing mine LOL
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4 hours ago, MikeH said:
Exactly. He's not like some other"unnamed" hack jobs who can't orchestrate or how to actually write for an orchestra or how to write orchestrally to start with. How a base line related to the melody, how a counter melody is placed. How to change chords orchestrally and not in a banal pop way that makes no sense musically at all. I am saddened that people think some other composers are geniuses. It's like how some people think Britney and Kanye are geniuses, lol. WHATEVER!
Williams is one of the only composers left in film who actually knows the orchestra and writes for the orchestra. Or I should say, one of the few BIG composers that are known. I'm sure there are others out there, they just are not known and Hollywood right now does not want that sound or that finesse in scoring.
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Powell is a good ORCHESTRAL composer, so I believe he will hopefully not only deliver a good score but do justice to any existing material he uses.
Just now, kaseykockroach said:Did he challenge Don Davis to a sword duel after JP3?
Ha! That was actually one instance where he was extremely upset.....
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1 hour ago, kaseykockroach said:
Though for all we know, "Han Solo Theme by John Williams" could just mean he scribbled something on a scrap of toilet paper and tossed it at Powell then called it a day.
Highly doubt that considering he is such a control freak when it comes to his music and his orchestrations and them development not to mention chord progressions. He's had it out with other composers who have messed up with his themes in certain franchises like Jurassic Park and Harry Potter....
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BTW it is amazing watching it with just the music. You can really see why they call him a master storyteller with his music. Loved it!
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16 minutes ago, King Mark said:is that the moist ever ?
I know I'm moist over it lol
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Great news, someone get on it and pass it to me, please cheers thanks! lol
In other news... I like these covers this one guy does for special editions. This is one of them.
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On 3/9/2018 at 5:11 PM, crumbs said:
Does that mean the LSO are the orchestra?
No it's Isobel Griffith who got the players together for this. It's not the LSO. Mind you I'm not sure if they are an orchestra on to themselves or if it's all freelance and therefor there could be people from many orchestras including the LSO in there.
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You guys are crazy, but you know, we all love different things and that's cool of course
To me the music when they go into dream land is just stunning. The main theme has a little Tchaikovsky feel to it and To Giant Country and Frollick are so much fun. He was on a completely different trip writing this and it was nice to hear. The movie itself is charming. The only thing I would have done different is had more of an actual fight with the giants at the end. seemed too easy. Other than that, Mark Rylance has to be one of the best actors working today. And we get the brilliant Penelope Wilton in there too.
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I'm sure there will be both. A piano sketch for Powell to have for the theme to orchestrate in the cues as he will, and he'll write a concert suite if it is a full theme ad not just a motif.
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Solo is being recorded in London right now so Williams theme for Han is already done. I guess that makes sense since it comes out in May. I'm actually excited to hear Williams' theme and Powell's score.
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On 3/8/2018 at 4:08 AM, Gurkensalat said:Great interview! I was surprised to learn that not only they made a new recording of Long Goodbye, but JW played himself!
All the details in the interview IMO devaluates the „autopilot“ meme that was as usual thrown around. One can say to not like the soundtrack, to find it not different enough, but obviously he spent a lot of time and work into crafting the best possible soundtrack. As often, the genius lays in the detail and emerges only with time and repeated listening. Same with TinTin and BFG IMO.
People said the same about Beethovens 8th and the Brahms symphonies. History has proven them wrong.
I've been saying for ages that TinTIn and The BFG are brilliant scores which shows Williams at his most inventive and with BFG almost impressionistic and light with his orchestrations.
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5 hours ago, Drew said:
Wael likes his pie makers. (What a small world! It's me, Adervae, LOL)
lol hi
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2 hours ago, Remco said:
I hope this access to the scores will finally debunk the idea that ‘Williams doesn’t really write his music all by himself’ which I still often hear in the academic music world.
LOL, that is laughably not true heh
3 minutes ago, peter.anschutz said:Well as an archivist-in-training, I guess I know where to keep my eyes peeled for job openings.
Hi my name's Wael..... lol
John Powell's SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY (2018) - Deluxe Edition release coming November 2020
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Ah, then yeah, it could be different versions and they decided on one, or that there are a few themes, can be either. We'll have to wait and see. Either way, I really hope this is a killer score!