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    Datameister reacted to igger6 in GALAXY'S EDGE - New John Williams composition (2018)   
    Update: now that Disney has an upcharged replacement for FastPass, I guess they don't care as much about total immersion in Galaxy's Edge as they did before.  Now the attraction doesn't have a proper sign, but the Lightning Lane™ for it does.
     
    So can we get some Williams music in there now?
     

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    Datameister reacted to Disco Stu in THE COWBOYS (1972) - NEW! 2018 Varese Deluxe Edition   
    More importantly it means that this great score isn't limited anymore to a small population of existing super fans, but open to budding and casual John Williams fans to discover in Spotify or wherever.
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    Datameister got a reaction from oierem in I'm fairly certain the "2nd" ending in Duel Of the Fates was added a later date - later recording session that is   
    It seems nothing was written or recorded for that, yeah. My best guess is that they intended to track in the end credits all along.
     
    @Manakin Skywalker, which music do you think was written for the earlier part of the duel (the part in which they move from the hangar to the big generator room or whatever)?
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    Datameister got a reaction from MikeH in I'm fairly certain the "2nd" ending in Duel Of the Fates was added a later date - later recording session that is   
    That's filmmaking for you. It happened in the OT, too. Think of how much of ESB's score was dropped or replaced. And in TPM's case, yeah, they heavily recut the whole end battle after the music was written.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Not Mr. Big in J.K. Rowling didn't like JW because the music didn't sound English enough? Fact or fiction?   
    Nah, I think it was a good call. My disappointment is in the fact that there ended up only being two "Star Wars Stories," and they had totally different openings from each other and from the episodes, yet both used the classic Star Wars end credits. It's a melange of unique and familiar elements that doesn't quite work for me.
     
    I would have preferred that the anthology films not use the main saga's main title or end credits. I also have a slight preference for the idea of them sharing similar new formats for each, but oh well.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Taikomochi in How do you primarily listen to your film scores (2021 edition)?   
    Right now most of my pure listening is on my iPod. It's a holdover from before I had a smartphone, and it still gets the job done. I tend to buy pretty cheap phones, so I'm not exactly drowning in storage space for my large collection, and I don't use any streaming services either.
     
    Second place would be my computer. That's of course where I do lots of music-related stuff, but right now I'm not often just sitting and listening there.
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    Datameister got a reaction from BrotherSound in I'm fairly certain the "2nd" ending in Duel Of the Fates was added a later date - later recording session that is   
    Also, some of "The Great Dual [sic]" was still used as intended in the film. The cue was split into two separately recorded pieces, with some music in the middle never being recorded. From the first part, there's the quiet, swirly passage just after the laser walls go up; from the second part, there's the percussion for the queen's surrender (although they took out the piccolos) and the music for Anakin's crash.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Bayesian in How do you name commonly named tracks (e.g. Main Title)   
    Better question, yeah. I fix them. I fix capitalization, too - a much more frequent issue with record labels of all sizes. I don't know why overcapitalization is so rampant.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Manakin Skywalker in How do you name commonly named tracks (e.g. Main Title)   
    Better question, yeah. I fix them. I fix capitalization, too - a much more frequent issue with record labels of all sizes. I don't know why overcapitalization is so rampant.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Edmilson in I'm fairly certain the "2nd" ending in Duel Of the Fates was added a later date - later recording session that is   
    Also, some of "The Great Dual [sic]" was still used as intended in the film. The cue was split into two separately recorded pieces, with some music in the middle never being recorded. From the first part, there's the quiet, swirly passage just after the laser walls go up; from the second part, there's the percussion for the queen's surrender (although they took out the piccolos) and the music for Anakin's crash.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Edmilson in How do you name commonly named tracks (e.g. Main Title)   
    Better question, yeah. I fix them. I fix capitalization, too - a much more frequent issue with record labels of all sizes. I don't know why overcapitalization is so rampant.
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    Datameister got a reaction from igger6 in GALAXY'S EDGE - New John Williams composition (2018)   
    I was chatting with someone elsewhere and managed to change my own mind on that. I still think a "greatest hits" style of BGM would be disastrous, but it actually could be possible to create appropriate orchestral loops for different areas of the land. I started thinking of examples and realized that I could get onboard with the use of atmospheric cues that aren't too thematic or mickey mousey (ironically). The Resistance forest, the market, the First Order area, and the Falcon area could each get their own distinct loop.
     
    The hard part would be finding enough material to avoid having super short loops like Universal's.
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    Datameister got a reaction from HunterTech in How do you primarily listen to your film scores (2021 edition)?   
    Right now most of my pure listening is on my iPod. It's a holdover from before I had a smartphone, and it still gets the job done. I tend to buy pretty cheap phones, so I'm not exactly drowning in storage space for my large collection, and I don't use any streaming services either.
     
    Second place would be my computer. That's of course where I do lots of music-related stuff, but right now I'm not often just sitting and listening there.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Josh500 in How do you primarily listen to your film scores (2021 edition)?   
    Right now most of my pure listening is on my iPod. It's a holdover from before I had a smartphone, and it still gets the job done. I tend to buy pretty cheap phones, so I'm not exactly drowning in storage space for my large collection, and I don't use any streaming services either.
     
    Second place would be my computer. That's of course where I do lots of music-related stuff, but right now I'm not often just sitting and listening there.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Tallguy in A New Hope vs. The Empire Strikes Back vs. Return of the Jedi   
    I missed this thread the first time around. Either that or I didn't bother posting because I knew I couldn't vote, because my answer to both questions is "not ROTJ." The other two are locked in an eternal struggle in my heart. SW edges out on the basis of maximum nostalgia; ESB edges out on my subjective impression of its objective quality. That's true for the films and the scores.
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    Datameister reacted to Yavar Moradi in Joel P West - Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings   
    Saw the film last night and loved it! Loved the CGI-heavy third act a little less than the compelling and visceral first two acts, but it was all very well done. Loved all the actors, loved the characters, was impressed by how emotionally resonant the relationships were and how compelling the villain was.
     
    The score was generally quite good and aided the film well, although I wish there'd been a more memorable main theme. The Chinese flavor was well integrated with the western orchestra.

    I highly recommend everyone go check out the film in theater, and maybe sample the score on Spotify before purchasing digitally.
     
    Yavar
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    Datameister got a reaction from thx99 in GALAXY'S EDGE - New John Williams composition (2018)   
    I just think you ought to withhold judgment till you've visited in person. Films and theme parks have different musical needs. (Also, Williams's Star Wars source music can be quite "off" - consider the three Tatooine source cues from TPM. Odd recorder harmonies, non-Western percussion, weird vocals, etc.)
     
    For me, the only problem with this cue in situ is that the melody is hard to pick out. It sets the tone really well, but it's only recognizable if you know the suite well and you listen closely. Part of that is the slow tempo, part of it is park acoustics, and part of it is the blurry synth pads beneath the flute-like melody. The end result is that the reference to Williams's theme feels almost like an Easter egg. I think I would have preferred a version that more clearly established the theme, setting up its orchestral statements in the attractions.
     
    That's just me, though. Still happy to be able to listen to this track on its own!
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    Datameister got a reaction from blondheim in GALAXY'S EDGE - New John Williams composition (2018)   
    Yep. You get orchestral scoring in the two rides and in the lightsaber building experience. All three of those include material adapted from the suite. But the orchestra isn't heard elsewhere in the land - the cantina features the Star Wars equivalent of club music, and you hear bits of alien folk music in a few spots outside, and the entrances/exits to the land use Kerber's arrangement for transitional ambiance.
     
    I like the decision to save orchestral scoring for actual story moments. I do wish there were more pervasive area BGM (still in the same indigenous-sounding vein), and I wouldn't have minded if the orchestral BGM started sneaking in during the ride queues. SWGE's music sounds good when you do hear it, but I think hearing it more often would help.
     
    I also still wish they had put together a small ensemble to play live music here and there. It would have been challenging but so worth it.
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    Datameister got a reaction from blondheim in GALAXY'S EDGE - New John Williams composition (2018)   
    Whooaaaa, this has been up for 11 months and I hadn't seen it till now. Super cool! Seems to be a different mix but that's all right.
     
    EDIT: @Tom I'm sure Randy Kerber would agree that Williams's version is more sophisticated and interesting. But I can appreciate the desire for a more "naturalistic" approach to the area background music.
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    Datameister got a reaction from thx99 in GALAXY'S EDGE - New John Williams composition (2018)   
    Whooaaaa, this has been up for 11 months and I hadn't seen it till now. Super cool! Seems to be a different mix but that's all right.
     
    EDIT: @Tom I'm sure Randy Kerber would agree that Williams's version is more sophisticated and interesting. But I can appreciate the desire for a more "naturalistic" approach to the area background music.
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    Datameister got a reaction from thx99 in GALAXY'S EDGE - New John Williams composition (2018)   
    Yep. You get orchestral scoring in the two rides and in the lightsaber building experience. All three of those include material adapted from the suite. But the orchestra isn't heard elsewhere in the land - the cantina features the Star Wars equivalent of club music, and you hear bits of alien folk music in a few spots outside, and the entrances/exits to the land use Kerber's arrangement for transitional ambiance.
     
    I like the decision to save orchestral scoring for actual story moments. I do wish there were more pervasive area BGM (still in the same indigenous-sounding vein), and I wouldn't have minded if the orchestral BGM started sneaking in during the ride queues. SWGE's music sounds good when you do hear it, but I think hearing it more often would help.
     
    I also still wish they had put together a small ensemble to play live music here and there. It would have been challenging but so worth it.
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    Datameister got a reaction from thx99 in GALAXY'S EDGE - New John Williams composition (2018)   
    Yeah, I haven't done a direct comparison with a live audio recording yet, but I confess that on one occasion I stood in the entrance for a while just to get a sense for how long the loop is and what's in it. The more rhythmic elements aren't there in the park mix at all. I think they may have shortened it, too. I'll compare them and let you know what I find.
     
    EDIT: I was wrong about the shortening - they used the whole track. It loops at about 4:54, overlapping the beginning on the ending. But yeah, the rhythmic panpipe breaths (starting around 1:12) and the drums (starting around 1:22) are completely missing from the park mix.
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    Datameister got a reaction from bollemanneke in J.K. Rowling didn't like JW because the music didn't sound English enough? Fact or fiction?   
    I've no idea if this rumor is true, but the irony is that parts of Desplat's scores (particularly the second one) sound more like typical modern Hollywood scoring than Williams does. And then the parts that don't sound that way remind me of Williams more than Doyle or Hooper. Not to mention the verbatim Williams quotes in Part 2.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Tom Guernsey in Who do you think is most responsible for the musical sound of Star Trek?   
    Oh yeah, as far as the sound of the TOS episode scores goes, I'd say Fried and Steiner provided the most memorable material. Kaplan too. Courage's theme music is fantastic, but his episode scores are relatively subdued.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Edmilson in Who do you think is most responsible for the musical sound of Star Trek?   
    I'd say there isn't a Star Trek sound. That universe has an enormous variety of musical voices within it. There's no established sound that a new composer has to stay consistent with.
     
    The only one I've heard that really screamed "not Star Trek" is the fourth film. So...everyone except Rosenman, I guess? 
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