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    Datameister got a reaction from Manakin Skywalker in Remasters of the First 6 Star Wars Soundtracks now available (Shawn Murphy / Disney Records 2018)   
    ESB is more salvageable. You can get it to a very listenable state by artificially widening the stereo field, adding a touch of reverb, and adjusting the EQ a bit. ROTJ is what is...those higher frequencies are just gone, full stop. Nothing you can do to unmuffle that album.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Holko in Remasters of the First 6 Star Wars Soundtracks now available (Shawn Murphy / Disney Records 2018)   
    ESB is more salvageable. You can get it to a very listenable state by artificially widening the stereo field, adding a touch of reverb, and adjusting the EQ a bit. ROTJ is what is...those higher frequencies are just gone, full stop. Nothing you can do to unmuffle that album.
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    Datameister got a reaction from A Ghost From Highwood in How many times have you listened to the track The Rise of Skywalker?   
    You guys don't hear it? Don't get me wrong, it sounds like it was written by Williams, and I certainly didn't intend to accuse him of lifting material from Giacchino, but I hear some definite similarities in the approach. I'm talking about pieces like "Labor of Love", "Your Father Would Be Proud", "Parting Words", etc. You've got 4/4 meter with chord changes at the start of each measure...heavy reliance on simple, steady quarter note rhythms in the melody, often ending phrases with longer notes...overall major tonality with strategically placed minor chords to add emotional richness or bittersweetness... (I didn't fully think through all those exact similarities till now; it was just a "feel" thing, but I think it stands up to objective analysis.)
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    Datameister got a reaction from A Ghost From Highwood in How many times have you listened to the track The Rise of Skywalker?   
    Twice so far for me...I was late to the TROS game, and I tend to space out my listens anyway. I quite like this theme and I think it serves the film well. It hasn't captivated me the way it has for some of you, but I do think it has a rather Giacchino-esque beauty.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Tydirium in What Is The Last Score You Listened To?   
    The expanded Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. Wow, it really helps to have some more of the quiet underscore in here...the OST is fun but it can be a little much as it rushes from one full-blast action cue to another. I like this presentation a lot better - all the best music was on the OST, but this album gives more time to breathe between those moments. Very glad I finally bought this!
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    Datameister got a reaction from Not Mr. Big in How many times have you listened to the track The Rise of Skywalker?   
    You guys don't hear it? Don't get me wrong, it sounds like it was written by Williams, and I certainly didn't intend to accuse him of lifting material from Giacchino, but I hear some definite similarities in the approach. I'm talking about pieces like "Labor of Love", "Your Father Would Be Proud", "Parting Words", etc. You've got 4/4 meter with chord changes at the start of each measure...heavy reliance on simple, steady quarter note rhythms in the melody, often ending phrases with longer notes...overall major tonality with strategically placed minor chords to add emotional richness or bittersweetness... (I didn't fully think through all those exact similarities till now; it was just a "feel" thing, but I think it stands up to objective analysis.)
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    Datameister got a reaction from Brundlefly in Now that we have the Complete JP from LLL, is the 20th anniversary JP completely redundant?   
    There are elements of the JP OST that I really like, but the way the end of the film is handled really ruins it for me. I loooooove going from the triumphant conclusion of T-Rex to the Rescue to the peaceful piano solo that eventually leads to the full end credits. It's such a perfect way to wrap up the score; I can't fathom why they didn't take that route for the original album.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Smaug the iron in Now that we have the Complete JP from LLL, is the 20th anniversary JP completely redundant?   
    There are elements of the JP OST that I really like, but the way the end of the film is handled really ruins it for me. I loooooove going from the triumphant conclusion of T-Rex to the Rescue to the peaceful piano solo that eventually leads to the full end credits. It's such a perfect way to wrap up the score; I can't fathom why they didn't take that route for the original album.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Tydirium in Now that we have the Complete JP from LLL, is the 20th anniversary JP completely redundant?   
    There are elements of the JP OST that I really like, but the way the end of the film is handled really ruins it for me. I loooooove going from the triumphant conclusion of T-Rex to the Rescue to the peaceful piano solo that eventually leads to the full end credits. It's such a perfect way to wrap up the score; I can't fathom why they didn't take that route for the original album.
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    Datameister got a reaction from The Five Tones in Is there any significance to the first chord of the Ark theme?   
    All good points in general, but I'm not really seeing the connection to this passage in particular. The Ark theme doesn't use the sort of harmonic language and instrumentation that you normally get with the type of music you're talking about. If anything, it's always struck me as a uniquely Western musical in-joke, using the so-called "devil's interval" to represent the Judeo-Christian God. For what you're talking about, I'd look more at the music for the arrival in Cairo or for the swordsman in the marketplace.
     
    @First TROS March Accolyte, you're not imagining the similarity between these. It's a B minor chord - just below the C minor chord heard in "The Map Room: Dawn" - and it's voiced very similarly. I'm guessing it's unintentional, born of Williams' familiarity with a wide range of orchestral works and there only being so many notes and so many instruments to work with.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Fabulin in Is there any significance to the first chord of the Ark theme?   
    All good points in general, but I'm not really seeing the connection to this passage in particular. The Ark theme doesn't use the sort of harmonic language and instrumentation that you normally get with the type of music you're talking about. If anything, it's always struck me as a uniquely Western musical in-joke, using the so-called "devil's interval" to represent the Judeo-Christian God. For what you're talking about, I'd look more at the music for the arrival in Cairo or for the swordsman in the marketplace.
     
    @First TROS March Accolyte, you're not imagining the similarity between these. It's a B minor chord - just below the C minor chord heard in "The Map Room: Dawn" - and it's voiced very similarly. I'm guessing it's unintentional, born of Williams' familiarity with a wide range of orchestral works and there only being so many notes and so many instruments to work with.
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    Datameister got a reaction from TSMefford in Harry Potter 7CD Collection - MUSIC discussion   
    I've never even picked up the DH2 soundtrack because of how much it underwhelms me in the film, @redishere, but the DH1 soundtrack is a different story. Some very nice writing there. "Sky Battle" is hands-down the best non-Williams Potter action sequence.
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    Datameister got a reaction from bollemanneke in Harry Potter 7CD Collection - MUSIC discussion   
    I've never even picked up the DH2 soundtrack because of how much it underwhelms me in the film, @redishere, but the DH1 soundtrack is a different story. Some very nice writing there. "Sky Battle" is hands-down the best non-Williams Potter action sequence.
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    Datameister got a reaction from redishere in Harry Potter 7CD Collection - MUSIC discussion   
    I've never even picked up the DH2 soundtrack because of how much it underwhelms me in the film, @redishere, but the DH1 soundtrack is a different story. Some very nice writing there. "Sky Battle" is hands-down the best non-Williams Potter action sequence.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Fal J. M. Skywalker in Soundtracks, Compilations, or other recently purchased Music   
    On somewhat of a whim, I just ordered La-La Land's expanded Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow and their big Planet of the Apes multi-film box set.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Tydirium in Star Wars End Credits Rankings   
    In the broad strokes, this is a totally valid point...but I will point out that Williams rewrote the beginning of the credits for Empire - everything up till the Rebel fanfare. It's still the same idea, but he changed the key signature, he cut off the opening trumpet fanfare rather than letting it continue to the downbeat of Luke's theme, he gave the melody of Luke's theme to the trombones (and woodwinds) instead of the horns (and woodwinds), and he had to reconfigure the trumpet line that ascends up into the Rebel fanfare, which is still in its original key. This new version was retained for every film that followed. The changes are significant enough to be factors in this conversation, as are the differences in the performances and recording/mixing for each film.
     
    That being said, ANH is edging it out over ESB for me at the moment, though they're both extraordinary.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Falstaft (hiatus til TROS) in Star Wars End Credits Rankings   
    In the broad strokes, this is a totally valid point...but I will point out that Williams rewrote the beginning of the credits for Empire - everything up till the Rebel fanfare. It's still the same idea, but he changed the key signature, he cut off the opening trumpet fanfare rather than letting it continue to the downbeat of Luke's theme, he gave the melody of Luke's theme to the trombones (and woodwinds) instead of the horns (and woodwinds), and he had to reconfigure the trumpet line that ascends up into the Rebel fanfare, which is still in its original key. This new version was retained for every film that followed. The changes are significant enough to be factors in this conversation, as are the differences in the performances and recording/mixing for each film.
     
    That being said, ANH is edging it out over ESB for me at the moment, though they're both extraordinary.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Cerebral Cortex in Star Wars End Credits Rankings   
    In the broad strokes, this is a totally valid point...but I will point out that Williams rewrote the beginning of the credits for Empire - everything up till the Rebel fanfare. It's still the same idea, but he changed the key signature, he cut off the opening trumpet fanfare rather than letting it continue to the downbeat of Luke's theme, he gave the melody of Luke's theme to the trombones (and woodwinds) instead of the horns (and woodwinds), and he had to reconfigure the trumpet line that ascends up into the Rebel fanfare, which is still in its original key. This new version was retained for every film that followed. The changes are significant enough to be factors in this conversation, as are the differences in the performances and recording/mixing for each film.
     
    That being said, ANH is edging it out over ESB for me at the moment, though they're both extraordinary.
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    Datameister reacted to ATXHusker in The Long Goodbye complete score released by Quartet Records   
    Official response from Intrada...
     
     
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    Datameister got a reaction from Arpy in Random YouTuber manages superior Star Wars special effects work over that of Industrial Light and Magic   
    In all fairness, the awesomeness of Jurassic Park's visual effects is due in part to the fact that they only used CGI for shots (or parts of shots) where puppetry, animatronics, and costumed performers couldn't get the job done. CG lets the dinosaurs run; practical effects let them come to life.
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    Datameister got a reaction from A Ghost From Highwood in Star Wars scores best to 9th best   
    ESB and ANH consistently duke it out for first in my book. "Gut reaction" picks between those will vary depending on my mood.
     
    At the other end, TLJ is a definitive low point for me. There's some very good stuff in there, but the literal interpretation of the temp track and the stretches of tepid underscore make for a stark contrast with the other eight scores.
     
    I can't vote yet because I haven't listened to TROS outside of the film yet. But even once I've listened to that album, voting will be nearly impossible. I reeeeaaaaally like my Star Wars scores.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Not Mr. Big in Star Wars scores best to 9th best   
    ESB and ANH consistently duke it out for first in my book. "Gut reaction" picks between those will vary depending on my mood.
     
    At the other end, TLJ is a definitive low point for me. There's some very good stuff in there, but the literal interpretation of the temp track and the stretches of tepid underscore make for a stark contrast with the other eight scores.
     
    I can't vote yet because I haven't listened to TROS outside of the film yet. But even once I've listened to that album, voting will be nearly impossible. I reeeeaaaaally like my Star Wars scores.
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    Datameister got a reaction from Holko in Random YouTuber manages superior Star Wars special effects work over that of Industrial Light and Magic   
    In all fairness, the awesomeness of Jurassic Park's visual effects is due in part to the fact that they only used CGI for shots (or parts of shots) where puppetry, animatronics, and costumed performers couldn't get the job done. CG lets the dinosaurs run; practical effects let them come to life.
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    Datameister got a reaction from crumbs in Random YouTuber manages superior Star Wars special effects work over that of Industrial Light and Magic   
    In all fairness, the awesomeness of Jurassic Park's visual effects is due in part to the fact that they only used CGI for shots (or parts of shots) where puppetry, animatronics, and costumed performers couldn't get the job done. CG lets the dinosaurs run; practical effects let them come to life.
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    Datameister got a reaction from crumbs in WAR HORSE - 2019 Recording Session Leak   
    I know exactly what you mean. My perfect-world scenario is to have a score in complete, unedited form as well as a slick, concise OST presentation. Some scores work better one way than the other, and sometimes my preferences vary depending on my mood.
     
    In any case, the album presentation of War Horse is one of Williams' best, IMO.
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