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This is what I think of everytime I open this thread:

Yep. Same way we know Ben Solo was actually an Ewok. The first interval of a theme doesn't lie!
 
@Trope welcome to the party.
 

And don't forget that he said the same thing about TROS before it came out. It was going to blow people's socks off, receive universal acclaim, unite the fans, make TFA and TLJ suddenly gel together, reveal the secret truth of the saga's hidden meaning, etc., etc. He likes to bring up his track record of predictions that came true, which is admittedly pretty impressive … if you leave out the ones that didn't.
 
I'm still waiting for the big reveal that the Jawas were created by Palpatine. Their theme starts with an upward jump of a minor third, just like Rey's and Palpatine's. It's also going to be super cool to see the next Jurassic Park film reveal that the dinosaurs were robots all along, as JW cleverly foreshadowed by starting their theme with the same three notes that start the droids' theme from ESB. The evidence is overwhelming.

Robots confirmed! And come to think of it, the Jawa theory makes sense too. They played a key role in the fulfillment of Palpy's plans by bringing the droids to Luke. Obviously Lucas intended them to be the Emperor's henchmen from the start!

Yep. Same way we know Ben Solo was actually an Ewok. The first interval of a theme doesn't lie!
 
@Trope welcome to the party.
 

And don't forget that he said the same thing about TROS before it came out. It was going to blow people's socks off, receive universal acclaim, unite the fans, make TFA and TLJ suddenly gel together, reveal the secret truth of the saga's hidden meaning, etc., etc. He likes to bring up his track record of predictions that came true, which is admittedly pretty impressive … if you leave out the ones that didn't.
 
I'm still waiting for the big reveal that the Jawas were created by Palpatine. Their theme starts with an upward jump of a minor third, just like Rey's and Palpatine's. It's also going to be super cool to see the next Jurassic Park film reveal that the dinosaurs were robots all along, as JW cleverly foreshadowed by starting their theme with the same three notes that start the droids' theme from ESB. The evidence is overwhelming.

And don't forget that he said the same thing about TROS before it came out. It was going to blow people's socks off, receive universal acclaim, unite the fans, make TFA and TLJ suddenly gel together, reveal the secret truth of the saga's hidden meaning, etc., etc. He likes to bring up his track record of predictions that came true, which is admittedly pretty impressive … if you leave out the ones that didn't.
 
I'm still waiting for the big reveal that the Jawas were created by Palpatine. Their theme starts with an upward jump of a minor third, just like Rey's and Palpatine's. It's also going to be super cool to see the next Jurassic Park film reveal that the dinosaurs were robots all along, as JW cleverly foreshadowed by starting their theme with the same three notes that start the droids' theme from ESB. The evidence is overwhelming.

And don't forget that he said the same thing about TROS before it came out. It was going to blow people's socks off, receive universal acclaim, unite the fans, make TFA and TLJ suddenly gel together, reveal the secret truth of the saga's hidden meaning, etc., etc. He likes to bring up his track record of predictions that came true, which is admittedly pretty impressive … if you leave out the ones that didn't.
 
I'm still waiting for the big reveal that the Jawas were created by Palpatine. Their theme starts with an upward jump of a minor third, just like Rey's and Palpatine's. It's also going to be super cool to see the next Jurassic Park film reveal that the dinosaurs were robots all along, as JW cleverly foreshadowed by starting their theme with the same three notes that start the droids' theme from ESB. The evidence is overwhelming.

What do you think George Lucas thinks we think he thinks Star Wars means to Jon Favreau’s niece?

How can it simultaneously be so fun and so irritating to read one person's posts? 

Yeah, early on, they saved money by shooting a lot of Hogwarts interiors and exteriors at Lacock Abbey, Alnwick Castle, Durham Cathedral, Gloucester Cathedral, Oxford, etc. As the series went on, they were able to afford more sets, and the location shoots dwindled. But either way, the castle is very different in the films than in the books.

Yeah, early on, they saved money by shooting a lot of Hogwarts interiors and exteriors at Lacock Abbey, Alnwick Castle, Durham Cathedral, Gloucester Cathedral, Oxford, etc. As the series went on, they were able to afford more sets, and the location shoots dwindled. But either way, the castle is very different in the films than in the books.

Look, just because I take issue with the use of Binary Sunset in The Last Jedi doesn't mean it take issue with every single instance of it: its more the overall effect that wears down on one. So, sure, in this scene there are just two quick statements (at least one of which is VERY similar to Binary Sunset), but its more the culminative effect of all those statements across the film.
 
And, I should add, that theme is NOT used so broadly in either The Force Awakens OR The Rise of Skywalker. Its very much a quirk of The Last Jedi that, whenever anything vaguely impactful happens onscreen, you can bet you'll hear a solo horn leading into a big cresdendo in the strings with that theme. It makes it both repetitive and kind of dissolves its dramatic associations: in 1977 it was a theme for an old, exiled Jedi. By 1983, it was a theme for the all-powerful Force. In 2017, it became an almost completely abstract musical device.

I would love to fly the LSO to California to record something at Sony, and then fly LA players to London to record something at Abbey Road. I think it would be very illuminating for all of us.
 
Anyone got a few million dollars we could throw at this?

I believe only the space battle cue that consists of material from ANH was the only thing recorded at Olympic. All the other orchestral stuff should have been at Abbey Road, so that's not it.
 
That being said, I do think the magic of Abbey Road has something to do with how good ROTJ sounds in non-SE releases. Something just went wrong with the SE album specifically. Which is unfortunate, because the program is so outstanding. There are many scores that I prefer to hear abridged. The Star Wars scores are not among them—especially not the first six.

@Bellosh Are you listening to the OST, the Anthology, or the SE? The ROTJ SE is missing the higher frequencies, resulting in a muffled sound. I don't know that a definitive, detailed explanation for this has ever been given.

Then I don't know what to tell you. The widely held opinion is that the sound on that one is godawful. 
 
I'm curious how ROTJ on the OST or Anthology sounds to you? Better? Worse? Just different? Not different at all?

Then I don't know what to tell you. The widely held opinion is that the sound on that one is godawful. 
 
I'm curious how ROTJ on the OST or Anthology sounds to you? Better? Worse? Just different? Not different at all?

@Bellosh Are you listening to the OST, the Anthology, or the SE? The ROTJ SE is missing the higher frequencies, resulting in a muffled sound. I don't know that a definitive, detailed explanation for this has ever been given.

@Bellosh Are you listening to the OST, the Anthology, or the SE? The ROTJ SE is missing the higher frequencies, resulting in a muffled sound. I don't know that a definitive, detailed explanation for this has ever been given.

Well, there's the composition, the performance, the recording techniques, the venue, and the various ways it's been transferred and mixed for albums and for the film. All play a role. Is there anything specifically you're referring to?

That's an extraordinary generalization. The reality is that Lucasfilm comprises people who live and breathe Star Wars, people with a casual appreciation for Star Wars, people who want to interrogate or deconstruct or reshape Star Wars, people who are in it to grow their existing wealth, people who are in it for fame and prestige, people who are just trying to put food on the table, etc., etc.—and people with multiple reasons for being there.
 
Similar things could be said for the other groups you mentioned. People are complicated. The likelihood of a group of 10 people having identical motivations is low. For groups of hundreds or thousands, the likelihood is effectively zero, particularly when different people within the group were chosen for different reasons in the first place.

That's an extraordinary generalization. The reality is that Lucasfilm comprises people who live and breathe Star Wars, people with a casual appreciation for Star Wars, people who want to interrogate or deconstruct or reshape Star Wars, people who are in it to grow their existing wealth, people who are in it for fame and prestige, people who are just trying to put food on the table, etc., etc.—and people with multiple reasons for being there.
 
Similar things could be said for the other groups you mentioned. People are complicated. The likelihood of a group of 10 people having identical motivations is low. For groups of hundreds or thousands, the likelihood is effectively zero, particularly when different people within the group were chosen for different reasons in the first place.

That's an extraordinary generalization. The reality is that Lucasfilm comprises people who live and breathe Star Wars, people with a casual appreciation for Star Wars, people who want to interrogate or deconstruct or reshape Star Wars, people who are in it to grow their existing wealth, people who are in it for fame and prestige, people who are just trying to put food on the table, etc., etc.—and people with multiple reasons for being there.
 
Similar things could be said for the other groups you mentioned. People are complicated. The likelihood of a group of 10 people having identical motivations is low. For groups of hundreds or thousands, the likelihood is effectively zero, particularly when different people within the group were chosen for different reasons in the first place.

That's an extraordinary generalization. The reality is that Lucasfilm comprises people who live and breathe Star Wars, people with a casual appreciation for Star Wars, people who want to interrogate or deconstruct or reshape Star Wars, people who are in it to grow their existing wealth, people who are in it for fame and prestige, people who are just trying to put food on the table, etc., etc.—and people with multiple reasons for being there.
 
Similar things could be said for the other groups you mentioned. People are complicated. The likelihood of a group of 10 people having identical motivations is low. For groups of hundreds or thousands, the likelihood is effectively zero, particularly when different people within the group were chosen for different reasons in the first place.