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  1. Thanks! The strange thing is the album versions of the two songs were both recorded by choirs in Israel, and conducted by other people, so based on the liner notes from the original CD, I'm not even clear if Williams had any involvement with them. Yet he clearly chose to include them on the album. Perhaps he commissioned these two Israeli choirs to record these versions? Either way, I'm glad both of the temp track versions stayed in the film. The Billy Bathgate version of OYF'N Pripetshok, arranged by Mark Isham, is much more effective, since it sounds inten
  2. This is the recording of Yeroushalaim Chel Zahav used in the film, from the movie "Pour Sacha." (Note that this video is a slightly different mix from the "Pour Sacha" soundtrack album mix, which I can't find anywhere online): This is the album version, performed by The Ramat Gan Chamber Choir, conducted by Hana Tzur, Williams doesn't seem to have any involvement with it. The recording used in the film, with the guitar and the whistling and the individual voices more audible, feels human and hopeful. The choral recording feels timeless
  3. The recordings used in the film are not even credited in the end credits roll though, it's very strange. It's like they were temp track versions left in at the last minute after the credits were done or something. I believe all the other existing recordings used in the film are credited at the end, there are 5 of them, although none of the dance songs/tangos that Williams recorded are credited, which is weird, since songs are usually credited for the composition, even if they're not the original recordings.
  4. Both explanations are entirely possible, the versions are just so utterly and completely different, I wonder what the story is.
  5. Does anyone know the backstory for the album versions of "OYF'N Pripetshok" and "Yeroushalaim Chel Zahav"? They're completely different from the film versions. I presume the film versions were temp tracks, since they're both off film soundtracks that came out in 1991, two years before the film was being edited. Was there ever an intention to replace them in the film with the album versions? It seems unlikely, because their tone is so different they would have altered those scenes, especially the ending, the version of Yeroishalaim from "Pour Sacha" is so upbeat, while t
  6. Where is it available in that format? I kept putting off buying this, hoping there'd be a CD, but it's probably time to give in and buy it. At least doing that should ENSURE a CD is announced the next day. :)
  7. I found the scene you're talking about in the shooting script. It's a one page scene at the stadium, right after the atomic bomb goes off and Mrs. Victor dies. The Eurasian is a character from the book, I googled it. The scene is similar in the book and the shooting script. He tries to steal Jim's shoes, and then tells Jim about the atomic bomb and the Japanese surrender. Spielberg must have decided to cut The Eurasian scene while they were still shooting in Spain, because it is replaced in the finished film with an unscripted, impressionistic scene of Jim wandering through an aban
  8. Yep, I remember reading there's a HUGE amount of material that was cut from Schindler's List, I think the first cut ran like 4 hours. Many scenes were cut from the portion towards the end in Czechoslovakia, including a scene in which I don't know about a subplot with Avner's father though, I read the shooting script for Munich ages ago and I don't think I remember those scenes.
  9. Do you remember where in the film this character of The Eurasian was supposed to have appeared? I'll check the shooting script I have. It's 160 pages long, which must have resulted in a first cut well over three hours.
  10. Which scenes are those? I read the shooting script ages ago, but I can't remember that. I know MIranda Richardson had her role almost completely cut from the finished film.
  11. Just saw your question, here are the recordings used in the film for the classical pieces: Tchaikovsky: Symphonies Nos. 4-6 Schubert: Symphonies Nos. 3 & 8 I only just discovered the sessions, which amazes me, since I spent so many hours at the time the film came out figuring out where the album cues went and where all the source cues came from, going as far as calling Fox Music to clarify exactly which recordings of "Moon River" were used. Anyway, I thought it was really interesting to hear the cue "Anderton in Halo," because it is the score for a scene dele
  12. Thanks! So, once we see screenshot comparisons of widescreen vs full screen, I have a hunch that the widescreen will have some more on the sides, despite that it loses from top and bottom. Movies shot on film were always shot 1.33, then matted for 1.85. Duel is no different, you can see from these caps: http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=9796378&postcount=269 Hmmm.. you mean even those that are 2.35:1, 2.50:1, are shot in 1.33:1? Yep. They're either shot Super 35, in which case the 2.35 image is extracted from the middle of the 1.33 frame, or they're shot anamorphic, in which case, wh
  13. Thanks! So, once we see screenshot comparisons of widescreen vs full screen, I have a hunch that the widescreen will have some more on the sides, despite that it loses from top and bottom. Movies shot on film were always shot 1.33, then matted for 1.85. Duel is no different, you can see from these caps: http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=9796378&postcount=269
  14. "Meteor" by Laurence Rosenthal, lots of great cold war Soviet style music.
  15. I agree that the new Carry On version is mixed differently from the film version. However, I'm convinced they're the same recording. I listened to the Carry On version and the opening credits at the same time on my headphones and they matched exactly, except for the missing verse in the opening credits. The Carry On version is clearly the same as the one that was on Chris Cornell's myspace page back in the fall. I assume it's the same as the second version on the German CD single, which I could never find. I don't know about any third or fourth versions out there.
  16. I posted this at the FSM board, but I thought people here might be interested too: Fans of "Casino Royale" might want to know, the film version of "You Know My Name," which was different from the CD-single version released last fall, has finally been released. It's on Chris Cornell's new solo album, "Carry On". It was on his myspace page last year, just before the movie came out, so I figured it would be his album version. I just compared it to the opening credits. Identical, except that they cut out one verse because the full song is 4:00 long. There are two easy ways to tell the versions ap
  17. I wasn't trying to twist your words, only to answer Fommes's question as clearly as possible. I was shocked myself to see that the music matched up to that scene, I never realized it was on the CD.
  18. Well, if you insist on giving titles instead of the good old fashioned reel format. That cue is meant to represent Arrival in Vienna, but its edited form is also used for the chello retrieval and the ferris wheel scene the same way Inflight Flight is tracked into the kitchen fight sequence. TLD has about 15 minutes of tracked music. Some version of the second half of "Approaching Kara" may, indeed, be used in the cello scene, but it's considerably altered and only a fraction of the length. However the cue that plays during the "Arrival in Vienna" scene is absolutely identical to the piece on
  19. I was attempting to redo my Living Daylights CD to match this order, and noticed an error. "Approaching Kara" should indeed be cut in half at the 1:24 mark, but the second half is not the piece that plays as Kara retrieves her Violin. Try listening to it with the DVD on, they don't match at all. The second half of "Approaching Kara" is, in fact, the cue "Arrival in Vienna". My CD burner, which accesses some sort of internet CD database even recognized this title, which isn't on the CD packaging. It called that track "Approaching Kara/Arrival in Vienna". Try matching this music on the DVD as B
  20. The only error is that False Alarm and Al Capone should be switched so False Alarm comes first.
  21. I've added times for the finale to my breakdown above.
  22. Okay, having matched things up to the DVD, here's the best chronological list I can come up with, many thanks to macuser02 for his or her list as well, which led me in some new directions: 1 – Prologue 13 – After The Storm* (1:10 – 2:57) 4 – The Intersection Scene 13 – Ashes/The Minivan* (3:03 – 6:25) 6 – Escape From The City 11 – Floating Corpses* (0:00 – 0:40) 5 – Refugees* 2 – The Ferry Scene 3 – The Separation Of The Family* 7 – Probing The Basement 11 – Caught* (0:40 – end) 13 – Escape From The Basket (6:25 – end) 12 – Look At The Birds!* 10 – Victory* 14 – The Reunion 6 – W
  23. There's one slight error on your cue list, macuser. As track 27, you have "The Reunion" off the album. However your track 26, for the dying alien, is the first minute or so of album track 10, the bizarrely named "The Separation of the Family," which of course does not accompany that scene in the film. The rest of track 10 comes in the middle of "The Reunion." The darker piano solo in track 10 is used for the reunion with Robbie. The hopeful bits in track 14 are for the reunion of mother and daughter. Rather than slice these tracks up too much, it plays well to put track 10 as "Victory" or so
  24. And here are captures from the trailers and another tighter shot of the three of them cowering behind the van:
  25. Here's a shot from Cinefex of the deleted "Camelot" sequence:
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