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  1. Okay, having matched things up to the DVD, here's the best chronological list I can come up with, many thanks to macuser02 for his or her list as well, which led me in some new directions:

    1 – Prologue

    13 – After The Storm* (1:10 – 2:57)

    4 – The Intersection Scene

    13 – Ashes/The Minivan* (3:03 – 6:25)

    6 – Escape From The City

    11 – Floating Corpses* (0:00 – 0:40)

    5 – Refugees*

    2 – The Ferry Scene

    3 – The Separation Of The Family*

    7 – Probing The Basement

    11 – Caught* (0:40 – end)

    13 – Escape From The Basket (6:25 – end)

    12 – Look At The Birds!*

    10 – Victory*

    14 – The Reunion

    6 – War Of The Worlds* (0:27 - end)

    15 – Epilogue

    Unknown:

    8 – Refugee Status - plays well between Escape from the City and Floating Corpses

    9 – The Attack On The Car - most likely for a deleted scene immediately after The Ferry Scene

    If you want to be picky, the second portion of track 10, the piano solo, should be chopped off and stuck in the middle of track 14, as it scores the reunion with Robbie, but that would ruin the flow of the music.

    If you really want to do this, however, here are the times:

    10 - Victory (0:00 - 0:39)

    14 - The Reunion Pt 1 (Rachel & Mary Anne) (0:00 - 0:49)

    10 - The Reunion Pt 2 (Ray & Robbie) (1:28 - end)

    14 - The Reunion Pt 3 (closing narration) (2:01 - end)

  2. There's one slight error on your cue list, macuser. As track 27, you have "The Reunion" off the album. However your track 26, for the dying alien, is the first minute or so of album track 10, the bizarrely named "The Separation of the Family," which of course does not accompany that scene in the film.

    The rest of track 10 comes in the middle of "The Reunion." The darker piano solo in track 10 is used for the reunion with Robbie. The hopeful bits in track 14 are for the reunion of mother and daughter.

    Rather than slice these tracks up too much, it plays well to put track 10 as "Victory" or something similarly named, then have track 14 as "The Reunion."

  3. I still think "Attack on the Car" was meant to score the deleted "Camelot" sequence, as detailed in Cinefex magazine.

    Following the ferry scene, Ray and kids were to enter Newark, where they took refuge behind a minivan as tripods attacked apartment buildings and plucked screaming residents from them.

    The scene was apparently finished but dumped at the last minute. I'm guessing it was either too late to take the track off the album, or Williams liked it enough to leave it on anyway.

  4. Thanks so much for adding the tracked music listing. It turns out I had guessed wrong about where to start "Assault on the Temple," and it sounds much better now that I've corrected it, I started nearly a minute too soon. Also nice to be able to add "Charge of the Wookies" into my mix CD, I had no idea where that was from.

  5. I figured out how to make a CD that is exactly, and I mean exactly 80 mins long. I hate having to break up an album onto 2 discs, somehow it always looks too imposing on my shelf, and I never end up reaching for it.

    I took all the album music, the best of the Galaxies files (leaving off the bits that aren't that interesting and mean hacking otherwise nice album cues unlistenably.) Then I added the most important tracked bits off Eps I & II.

    Wow! I love the resulting album. Miles better than the chronological OST I made. The lightness added by the galaxies files and the tracked cues is an enormous help.

  6. I'm putting together my mix CD of OST material, Galaxies files and tracked music. I have the segment of Escape From Naboo as 1M8. However, I can't remember what was happening in ROTS as this played. Can anybody give me some idea, so I can create a track name.

  7. Can somebody help?

    I want to make a comlpete version, taking the OST tracks, the Galaxies audio files and the tracked music from Eps I and II. Bits like Escape From Naboo and Anakin Destroys the Federation Battleship durign the opening space battle and Arena March as Anakin enters the Jedi temple worked so well that I want to re-create them on my full chronological album.

    I want to find timings for the tracked cues, but this list, which seems the most complete, only lists the use of Federation Battleship and DOTF:

    http://jwfan.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&f...er=asc&start=50

    On this thread:

    http://jwfan.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&f...iewtopic&t=7540

    I found the following list of tracked cues, but no times or anything.

    1M8 - Escape from Naboo, The Phantom Menace

    2M2 - Battleship Destroyed, The Phantom Menace

    3M4 - The Arena, Attack of the Clones

    The Senate, The Phantom Menae

    The Big Army, The Armies Face Off, Laser Fight March, The Phantom Menace

    (reel six cues featuring the Trade Federation March).

    4M2 - Ambush on Coruscant (film version), Attack of the Clones

    The Senate, The Phantom Menace

    (I need to check this one again)

    5M2 - The Arena, Attack of the Clones

    6M5 - Duel of the Fates (album version orchestra track), The Phantom Menace

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

  8. I had to make a few versions too, but found the chrono version miles better. Why Williams consistently has his albums put in such wacky order bewilders me, but I guess it's his to do with as he pleases. I'm just glad he has the clout to get every score released, and as hour+ albums. And re-arranging them is always fun, and I gain new appreciation for the music, so I guess it ain't all bad.

  9. I started a chronological thread, but it got attached by the webmasters to another thread about recommended listening order, and got buried. Hopefully this one won't suffer the same fate.

    Here's my list:

    Some timings for cutting up the immense track 13 are really approximate and are marked with question marks.

    I also gave some of the most badly named tracks new titles, they are noted with a star

    1 – Prologue

    13 – After The Storm* (1:10 – 2:57?)

    4 – The Intersection Scene

    13 – Ashes* (3:03 – 4:33?)

    6 – Escape From The City

    11 – Floating Corpses* (0:00 – 0:40)

    5 – Refugees*

    2 – The Ferry Scene

    3 – The Separation Of The Family*

    7 – Probing The Basement

    11 – Caught* (0:40 – end)

    13 – Escape From The Basket (7:00? – end)

    12 – Look At The Birds!*

    10 – The Reunion*

    14 – The Reunion (alternate)/Epilogue*

    6 – War Of The Worlds* (0:32 - end)

    15 – End Titles*

    Unknown:

    8 – Refugee Status

    9 – The Attack On The Car

    13 – (0:00 – 1:10), (4:30? – 7:00?)

    If I had to guess, based on what little I know, I'd put track 8 after track 6, and track 9 after track 2.

    I renamed "The Return To Boston" because it makes no sense. How can it be a return if they didn't leave from there and don't live there?

  10. Saw the movie yet again today. Am more and more amazed by the score. Anyway, here's my current breakdown. Timings for cutting up the immense track 13 are really approximate.

    I also gave some of the most badly named tracks new titles, they are noted with a star

    1 – Prologue

    13 – After The Storm* (1:10 – 2:57?)

    4 – The Intersection Scene

    13 – Ashes* (3:03 – 4:33?)

    6 – Escape From The City

    11 – Floating Corpses* (0:00 – 0:40)

    5 – Refugees*

    2 – The Ferry Scene

    3 – The Separation Of The Family*

    7 – Probing The Basement

    11 – Caught* (0:40 – end)

    13 – Escape From The Basket (7:00? – end)

    12 – Look At The Birds!*

    10 – The Reunion*

    14 – Epilogue*

    6 – War Of The Worlds* (0:32 - end)

    15 – End Titles*

    Unknown:

    8 – Refugee Status

    9 – The Attack On The Car

    13 – (0:00 – 1:10), (4:30? – 7:00?)

    If I had to guess, I'd put track 8 after track 6, and track 9 after track 2.

    I also renamed "The Return To Boston" because it makes no sense. How can it be a return if they didn't leave from there and don't live there?

  11. Even on the final album it gets confusing. Some cues have been intentionally given the wrong titles. I know Williams often gives vague or inaccurate titles on albums, but on WOTW, titles are actually mismatched. Track 10, The Separation of The Family, is actually played over The Reunion scene in the film. Album track 14, called The Reunion, actually comes after this. Meanwhile, track 3, called Reaching The Country, is actually from The Separation of The Family scene. And it continues like this. Totally confusing. There's also lots of cutting and pasting to do. Making a chronological album is going to be a task.

  12. I was just listening to the CD after seeing the film again, and I have to say, unless somebody says track 9 matches up exactly to the scene where the mob attacks Cruise and family in their minivan, I suspect it may be for a deleted scene in which there is an alien attack on the car.

    The music is so furious and loud. It's much more than I can imagine Williams composing for such a human, dark scene that's mostly about character. This sounds like music for an attack by aliens, not people.

    Below are some stills and captures from this deleted scene, which also showed up in the trailer, in which Cruise has his line "Nothing can touch them."

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  13. With one of my other favorite composers, John Barry in either self-imposed or forced retirement, it's such a thrill to have Williams still producing masterpieces.

    Collecting Barry rarities from the past is certainly fun, but having brand new Williams CDs come out in stores, knowing he just created this music mere weeks before, is so much more thrilling.

  14. I agree that too much was shown of the aliens, but Spielberg already showed unimaginable balls by going up the slope of the hill, but then not going over it to show the "war of the worlds" of the title, when Cruise lets his son go. It was brilliant cinema, but not what a mass audience wants. Not showing some aliens as well would have made too many moviegoers mad.

    As it was, both times I've seen it, people complained about the ending, when it's straight out of the book. They also laughed at many of the most tragic bits, like the bodies floating down the river and the crowds going berserk over the van and killing each other for it after Cruise and his kids abandon it. I really think this movie is over the heads of most of them. Spielberg has grown, which is great, but I don't think he can ever make a mass crowd-pleaser again, his movies are too intense and intelligent now.

    Apparently the director of Fantastic 4 is quoted as saying that his film will outgross WOTW. Spielberg was too polite to respond when asked, except to wish the film well, but I fear this will happen, 4 looks like mindless multiplex eye-candy, safe for everyone from 8-80, which sells.

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