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    The Howard Shore Middle Earth Score Showdown Poll! (An Unexpected Journey vs Fellowship of the Ring, musically)

    in Tolkien Central

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    13 hours ago, SafeUnderHill said:

    The entire scores are a great patchwork of different themes, cultures and ideas. BOTFA does not deserve this flack. It's full new ideas, the psychological demise of  Thorin through textural plays on Smaug's material, the brilliant new music for the evil forces - the descending third developments for the Dol Guldur orcs, the new Gundabad breed and the wars beast. The new turns the Durin theme takes as the line's future becomes uncertain, with the introduction of a new dwarven culture. The themes introduced in DOS become more battered and reflective, we get more depth with Bard's family and his new position as leader.

     

    We get wonderful new pieces like 'The Darkest Hour' which perfectly captures the tragedy of war and inevitable downfall, and is as cohesive as any set pieces from DOS. 'Sons of Durin' brilliantly pays off the dwarves material in heroic style. The final three pieces before the end credits show Shore's ability to squeeze the emotion out the story, in beautifully flowing and sorrowful pieces.

     

    The BotFA score is strange to me - I love loads of it, but can't love it as a whole. Some of the decisions made are baffling, and that's not just because of the decisions made in the film - the number of themes Bard has by that point is ridiculous... Gundabad's theme I love, and also Dain's, but now the decision to use the Dwarf Lords theme in AUJ for Dain now goes nowhere at all, instead of it becoming Dain's theme.

     

    I also think the new "Preparing for War" motif, badass though it be, is a bit pointless - would not one of the Dwarf themes have done, seeing as there's already Erebor's, Thorin's, and the House of Durin's themes hanging around?

     

    and then there's the mix. Eurgh. Does no favours for Ravenhill/To the Death...

     

    But I always really enjoy listening to it, despite the fact I'm a bit disappointed in some of the directions taken. Odd, really.

     

    Potterdom Film/Score Series Thread

    in General Discussion

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    Well, to be fair, I'm not sure if the lack of directorial continuity helped the continuity of the music, but there we go. Though I agree with mrbellamy on Doyle, I think he did a good job,  and I also liked Despot's efforts. Just not sure why nearly all continuity was abandoned a few times between scores... I'm guessing it's not known whether it was the directors who requested different sounding scores, or whether it was the composers?

     

    I also still don't have Hooper's scores, I want to get them to complete the set, but wasn't a great fan of them in the film, though they served their purpose... And I haven't exactly heard great things about them on here either...

    Star Wars Scores - iTunes Confusion

    in JOHN WILLIAMS

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    Hi, and if you hadn't guessed I'm one of those heretics who uses iTunes to buy all their music :P And, even worse, out of the Star Wars scores, I only have TFA... And I was hoping to rectify this :P 

     

    Anyway, I'm just a bit confused about all the iTunes versions of the Star Wars scores...

     

    For ANH, there's a '77 one and a '04 one, with the '04 one having many more tracks and being cheaper, so the choice seems obvious there...

    ESB has 2 versions of the album, both '97, same number of tracks and same cover and all, one costs a bit more... does anyone know if they're actually different or not? :P

    RotJ only has one version, thank god :P

     

    TPM has 3, 2 from '99, one with the 3D cover and one with the normal one... Seemingly the same tracks, one costs a bit more... And then the Ultimate edition (Is it worth the extra £2-3?)

    AotC makes sense! 2 versions, same cover, one is £1 more, and has an extra track...

    And RotS has 2, same cover, one is £1 more, seemingly no difference...

     

    And I'm assuming the ultimate digital collection is inferior to the standard OSTs, whichever ones they are?

     

    So, any help? The confusing thing is, the titles of the albums are almost, if not exactly the same for all versions...

     

    Thanks in advance... I hope... :P

     

     

    Howard Shore's The Battle of the Five Armies (Hobbit Part 3)

    in Tolkien Central

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    The same wiki page also lists this, as well as "Tauriel and Kili"

    • "Kili's Theme: A short theme that is played on a trumpet. It appears at the beginning of "Feast of Starlight." In The Battle of the Five Armies soundtrack, it is played at the beginning of "Shores of the Long Lake" and is played near the end of "Ravenhill.""

    So maybe take anything from there with a pinch of salt, unless I've missed a lot...

    Sherlock (BBC)

    in General Discussion

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    "In addition to the 90-minute standalone episode, cinema goers will be treated to exclusive bonus material, including a guided tour of 221B Baker Street from Steven Moffat and a look behind the scenes at how the special episode was made featuring all the lead cast and crew."

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    in Tolkien Central

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    I think they matter, to me and quite a few others, anyway. But still, no one here is close to completely hating these movies, so far as I've seen. The most negative opinions on tORN are far more negative than here.

    Though on average, tORN is more favourable towards the films. I prefer the atmosphere here by far, to be honest.

    Peter Jackson: 'I didn’t know what the hell I was doing' when I made The Hobbit'

    in Tolkien Central

    Posted

    Still, I think many of these articles (which couldn't wait to get the knives out about a franchise which apparently no one cares about anymore btw, much like they did with that silly Ian McKellen tennis balls story a couple of years back) ought to bear in mind just how messy TTT and ROTK were. I have read that Jackson took a huge gamble with FOTR, pumping most of his budget into that and leaving much of the other two films unfinished, hoping he would be given additional filming blocks and money should FOTR succeed. I don't know how true this is, but I should say that the insider in question called the CGI Dain thing way before anyone else.

    TTT and ROTK messy? Unfinished? Now I've never read the books, but to me at least the films are just as polished and fantastic and compelling as the first one is, I don't think I've ever heard someone state that these films are anything less than full on masterpieces. Again, this comes from someone with celluloid in mind, not paper.

    Now the thing about The Hobbit, well that's not suprising. It just doesn't have the same attention to detail as TLOTR had.

    No, he means that when they were shot, PJ poured tonnes of budget into FotR, and shot TTT and RotK as an afterthought, banking on the fact that FotR would succeed and be given extra budget and time for reshoots. I'm pretty sure, somewhere, I heard that TTT and RotK would've been straight to DVD releases, as at least half the effects budget was used on FotR alone. So it was a damned big gamble.

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