Bofur01
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3 hours ago, Chen G. said:
The 4K shouldn't technically make the effects hold-up any worse, because those shots are the same - just upscaled to 4K. If they rescanned the live-action elements in 4K and then re-added the same 2K effects, then this would have been a concern.
But if there’s been edge enhancement on the upscale, it can result in things standing out which didn’t before. -
Has any major vfx studio used deep-faking outside of something like that impersonation of the Queen the other day? I can't think of any off the top of my head (though would like to see if there are any), though there have to be reasons why they are so rare.
They get a bit weird when the character turns sideways, and mouth and lips are often very odd in motion.
They are limited in that the studio would need to license hundreds of hours of old interview footage of the young actors, all needing to be sourced (doubting they could just download clips from youtube).
They also produce results which are low resolution with plenty of rendering issues which even show when looking at compressed-as-hell YT videos (and what would they look like in 4K?) and studios think it's worth pumping money into CG characters when soon (hopefully) they really will be able to look photo-real.
And last of all, they very much seem to work best on top of a CG recreation of the same face... which requires the CG face to be good in the first place?
Obviously, I don't really know, I am guessing. I'd assume that people working in the industry obviously have their reasons for doing what they are doing, and I'm sure they'd love to save hundreds of hours of refining and rendering imperfect CG characters using deepfakes if they could.
(Yeah, I think the deepfake Luke is an improvement on the weird dead eyes of the Mando original, obviously)
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I sort of tried to do the same thing, mostly using tracks named after Chapter Titles from the book, or the closest match I thought fitted, and album suites. Again, it's nowhere near a "best of" but flows nicely (imho), though clocks in at 109 mins.
An Unexpected Party
Roast Mutton
The Hidden Valley
Over Hill
Dreaming of Bag End
Under Hill
Riddles In the Dark
Out of the Frying-Pan
The House of Beorn
Flies and Spiders
Beyond the Forest
Barrels Out of Bond
Thrice Welcome
On the Doorstep
Inside Information
Smaug
Fire and Water
The Gathering of the Clouds
A Thief in the Night
The Clouds Burst
Ironfoot
The Return Journey
There and Back Again
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I don’t think studios have anywhere near the capability to deepfake as fans, for at least one reason - fans use ridiculous amounts of footage from old interviews and films to make their deepfakes, and that footage would probably be a huge licensing problem for vfx studios.
Thanos is a big purple fella, and like with Gollum in the Hobbit, both punch above their realism weight as they don’t have entirely human features. Humans are far more attuned to human faces than apes, for example.
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Harry Potter in the Hairdresser today.
And not JW, but the 20th Century Fox fanfare played in between club music while waiting in line for a club in Korea, that was exceedingly strange
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So far I’ve just seen people saying that it’s not too late to make the ST not canon, and trying to come up with ways it could have happened in an alternate universe...
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But barely any of that is deleted scenes, it's mostly deleted lines, alternate sequences, alternate lines, or even unused shots... They're not just going to dump all the rushes on a disc, there is no way the vast majority of these things would ever be seen, because they were never meant to be. I think that list would be wayyyyyyy shorter if it were talking about things likely to be released. Even stuff people are excited about, like Gil-galad vs Sauron, was probably only going to be 3 shots and 3 seconds long, or similar..
(But yes, it would be very cool)
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1 hour ago, Holko said:
If we look at the Rohan smearing issues that were also on the bluray... it really doesn't look like they used the OCNs for LotR. And why would they have, most shots are altered in some way, even a simple grading is a ton of work to recreate from scratch when it changes from shot to shot to unify all the different material over years. So... who knows. But either way I'd take waiting a year over having/wanting to buy it twice.
Yeah, having looked at as many screenshots I could find on the internet, I don’t think there’s any way that the films were actually rescanned from the OCNs, there’s less visible detail here than on the Blu Rays. -
I'm more interested in Chicken in the Pot!
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I think JP has always been reticent to release lyrics in his music, I saw several questions asking about this for HTTYD3 with no/minimal replies
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22 minutes ago, Chen G. said:
So...that Arwen flashback in The Two Towers...does it give grounds to resend the film to the MPAA? I mean, Arwen's gown was looking pretty sheer back in DVD. Something to conceal from the eyes of little ones?
You and your sheer gown...
I don't think anything's more... prominent than before, Arwen's quite covered in that gown. Maybe when Arnie's topless scenes hit 4K the Hobbits should be protected from that extreme nipple detail!
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These have updated on iTunes, and I've had a brief flick through.
I think on the whole, these releases are definitely an improvement on what came before. LotR looks great (ignore the "photos of a screen" posted by certain reviewers online, their phone cameras really didn't give an accurate representation at all). Some shots do seem a bit smooth and fuzzy, but the majority are vastly improved, and I'm a fan of the new colour grade on the whole, except...
For the desaturated and blurry-at-the-edges look for flashbacks, as used in the Extended version of DoS for those kinda awful-looking flashbacks of Thrain. This look has been given to some LotR flashback scenes now, such as Faramir and Boromir in Osgiliath in TTT, which looked really weird having been used to the original for years.
The Hobbit, meanwhile, apart from a few entirely VFX shots where the low resolution is *really* noticeable, fares better - some of DoS and BotFA definitely seem more saturated (thank god!) than before, and I am almost certain some of the bloom is either gone or reduced in some scenes, and the VFX shots on the whole seem more natural somehow now.
However - a moment of silence for those dreadful, awful GoPro shots in the barrel chase, which look utterly dreadful now and stick out like extremely sore thumbs.
If anyone has any specific questions about how things look I will attempt to answer.
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I always thought that sound represented the Savareen villagers who’d had their tongues cut out by Crimson Dawn and couldn’t speak. I think that part of the track plays when Beckett tries to talk to one of the locals who doesn’t reply.
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Would that be part of the slithery Kylo C theme?
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It’s separated by about 10s and several shots in the film
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When do we expect this album to be out?
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It's just an alternate, an alternate, I tell you!
On the OST, it's "Good Thing You Were Listening" 1:04-2:06, whereas in the film, it's replaced by "Maul's Call/Parting Ways" at 2:39-3:39.
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Nah, I think that's an alternate for when Qi'ra flies away, isn't it? Just after Han kills Beckett?
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5 minutes ago, Jay said:
That isn't 5M33A by that point in the track? We need @BrotherSound
Just had a look at the spreadsheet. In the film, the TIE chase lasts as long as the whole "Reminiscence Therapy" track, and the Monster only appears at the start of "Into the Maw".
So I think that 5M32 is "Reminiscence Therapy", and 5M33A-C are "Into the Maw".
It definitely checks out from a film PoV.
5M32 Kessel Run Pt. 1 - TIE Chase 5M33A Kessel Run Pt. 2 - Monster 5M33B Kessel Run Pt. 2 - Maw 5M33C Kessel Run Pt. 2 - Landing -
I meant the parts starting with the transitional bits at 3:47 up until the rebel fanfare statement at 4:35. I think pretty much that entire segment is a bit of a combination of various ideas from TAOH.
But yeah, you could be right, it's difficult to know.
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JP updated his story to say that 5m32 included portions from JW, not 5m33a.
So he definitely means that the big statement of Han's theme in Reminiscence Therapy, from The Adventures of Han, was written by JW. Surprise, surprise!
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I'd imagine the percentage includes everything, eg Rebel Fanfare statements, Luke's theme etc.
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3 minutes ago, Edmilson said:
I wonder which portions of Kessel Run John Williams wrote. Sure, the track includes material from Here They Come, but I imagine this is not what Powell was referring to... or was it?
Am guessing it's the big Han's theme quote near the end of Reminiscence Therapy which is straight out of The Adventures of Han
John Powell kicks ass
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Really? Huh. I always assumed it was Goransson.
(tbf I don’t really like it either way, sounds like JW-lite to me)