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    Bayesian reacted to lairdo in John Williams and West Side Story   
    Certainly, there is nothing to compare the 9 films too (and the influence on 2 other modern films + the 80's movies + the TV shows + Shadows of the Empire + the games + Disneyland/Disney World + the Radio Shows + audiobooks +....). But really, there have not been many opportunities for such work either.
     
    The closest in my mind is the Ring Cycle by Richard Wagner which I love but it's so hard to compare them because JW is such an opposite to Richard Wagner in terms of temperament, world view and personality. Plus of course Williams has composed far more total music than Wagner's 13 operas and handful of concert works. But if we want to compare musical treatment for the same master story arc, it would be The Ring and Star Wars (which crosses art forms). Time-wise it's about 16.5 hours (depending on the conductor) vs. 20+ hours (for SW - assuming 2 hours or so for Ep IX.)
     
    Next up is Howard Shore's work on the 6 Hobbit/LoTR films. The movies are longer, so the to the total music time gets close to the same. Yet, to me, they still feel like 2 related but different trilogies - more even than the SW prequel trilogy does to the original trilogy.
     
    What makes JW's feat on SW even more amazing is that we also have 4 Indiana Jones films (and maybe 5 + some of one Young Indy episode). Even a 4/5 film franchise with consistent musical language and development is odd in itself.
     
    John Barry did 11 James Bond films (not including touching up Dr. No and orchestrating the Bond theme for that outing). So, that's more movies than Star Wars will be (depending on how you count Solo and Rogue One).  And Barry does have a few themes that work across many of the films (and even show up in the David Arnold scores). However, there is no consistency of development. Very few characters reappear in any meaningful way, so there is less chance for a musical language to span. Plus John Barry did not really compose that way. He let the songs form the new themes each time out which works for the Bond formula.
    (From Russia With Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Diamonds are Forever, The Man with the Golden Gun, Moonraker, Octopussy, A View to a Kill, The Living Daylights.)
     
    Harry Potter (and Fantastic Beasts) deserves a mention because of the influence of the Hedwig Theme on the other scores, but really, the soundtracks do not hold a consistency across the 8+2 films. And the use of the themes shifts a bit too with Harry linked to Hedwig's music on the later films.
     
    What else is there with a lot of entries to even compare? I guess things like the Thin Man series, the Abbot & Costello films, Fast and The Furious, Police Academy. Perhaps things like 30's/40's serials - Buck Rogers, Tarzan, stuff like that - although I have no idea how much was done by the same composer. Finally, maybe in some way the Hammer Films make up some sort of epic scope, but few are in the same fictional universes. 
     
    Gosh, I know this does not belong in this thread, but there you go!
     
     
     
     
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    Bayesian reacted to crumbs in John Williams and West Side Story   
    JW finishing at 8 of 9 Star Wars films is basically my worst nightmare, especially considering his likely successor. Yuck. 
     
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    Bayesian got a reaction from Will in RUMOR: John Williams plans to retire in 2019   
    If JW is ever "retiring," it's either from scoring films or conducting concerts (not that the latter has been much of a thing for him for many years anyway). Nothing would stop him from working from home, at his own pace, on new concert pieces, adapting existing works, fulfilling commissions, and supporting Mike Matessino in producing proper expansions of all the scores that haven't received the golden treatment. I indeed imagine he looks forward to doing exactly that after Ep. IX. 
     
    And, considering how long-lived many of history's great artists are and have been, what would JW do with all his remaining time if he actually were to full-out retire from music? There's only so much golf a man can play.
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    Bayesian reacted to Jurassic Shark in Schindler's List - 2CD 25th Anniversary Edition from La-La Land Records (2018)   
    Don't underestimate what Bes can find difficult.
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    Bayesian reacted to gkgyver in RUMOR: John Williams plans to retire in 2019   
    He literally supported JW's free will to retire. Uncalled for.
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    Bayesian reacted to Jay in Harry Potter - The John Williams Soundtrack Collection 7CD boxset from La-La Land Records (2018)   
    It's not a coincidence; That's why your order hasn't shipped.  That's a bummer they didn't reply to your message, but I am sure they are inundated with messages at the moment.  They will probably start going through them when they return to work on Jan 2, I'd reckon
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    Bayesian reacted to Thor in RUMOR: John Williams plans to retire in 2019   
    Just relax, folks.
     
    Williams will keep on chuggin' untill he himself, or his official representatives, say otherwise.
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    Bayesian reacted to Loert in RUMOR: John Williams plans to retire in 2019   
    Perhaps he will turn towards dictation.
     
    JW: "JJ baby, would you kindly put a fortissimo 2nd inversion B/GbM7#5 on beat two with an Eb whole-step/half-step octatonic scale in the-..."
    JJ: "Wait, WHAT?"
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    Bayesian reacted to crumbs in RUMOR: John Williams plans to retire in 2019   
    Not sure about this one. He's been asked about retirement before and has signalled he has no intentions to officially retire, that writing music is just in his DNA and he writes every day. 
     
    Why on earth would official confirmation of something like this go to some random Harry Potter news site? More likely they've just misinterpreted Williams' comments about retiring from Star Wars after IX. 
     
    Either way, nobody could begrudge him if he chose to retire altogether after IX. I'm still elated that we got 2 new Star Wars scores, hopefully soon a trilogy's worth, at his advanced age. 
     
    And yes, for the love of god just cancel Indy 5 if Williams doesn't want to score it (an outcome I can't see happening unless Williams is physically incapable of writing by that time). 
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    Bayesian reacted to King Mark in John Williams - La-La Land Records: 2019   
    i disagree completely about the Prequel scores
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    Bayesian reacted to Incanus in Harry Potter - The John Williams Soundtrack Collection 7CD boxset from La-La Land Records (2018)   
    And it's official. No Harry Potter: John Williams Soundtrack Collection or Schindler's List for me this Christmas. Foiled by the untraceable stealth package and Christmas Rush and only lord knows what else. Bummer.
     
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    Bayesian reacted to Jay in Harry Potter - The John Williams Soundtrack Collection 7CD boxset from La-La Land Records (2018)   
    If you ordered "The Land Of The Giants" in the same order, then your order was delayed because The Land of The Giants didn't come in in time.

    Same as if you ordered it in the same order as anything else that may be currently awaiting stock.

    if you ordered it by itself, or only with titles that are shipping, then it likely has shipped by now, but your order status for whatever reason never got updated.
     
    If you try using the "contact us" page on their website again, you'll probably get a response within a reasonable amount of time.
     
     
     
     
    They sold out of every copy they initially pressed pretty quickly, though they are expecting more stock in this week:
     
    https://www.varesesarabande.com/products/dracula-the-deluxe-edition
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    Bayesian reacted to Incanus in Harry Potter - The John Williams Soundtrack Collection 7CD boxset from La-La Land Records (2018)   
    We few, we unlucky few.
     
    Throw me a freakin bone here. I'm the obsessive fan. Need the info.

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    Bayesian got a reaction from redishere in Harry Potter 7CD Collection - Pictures, unboxing videos, and art design / liner notes discussion   
    Reading this thread is killing me. I’m still awaiting shipment on mine. 😣
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    Bayesian reacted to Jay in Harry Potter - The John Williams Soundtrack Collection 7CD boxset from La-La Land Records (2018)   
    http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=132262&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=3&r=586#bottom
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    Bayesian reacted to Bespin in Harry Potter - The John Williams Soundtrack Collection 7CD boxset from La-La Land Records (2018)   
    I ordered the Harry Potter box set, because the World is not enough. I will not received it for Christmas, so I'll Die Another Day!
     
    😭
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    Bayesian reacted to Bryant Burnette in Harry Potter - The John Williams Soundtrack Collection 7CD boxset from La-La Land Records (2018)   
    I ordered all of that (plus Bram Stoker's Dracula and Saving Private Ryan) except Die Another Day -- mine shipped today.  Or, at least, a shipping label was created for it.
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    Bayesian reacted to staccato in Harry Potter - The John Williams Soundtrack Collection 7CD boxset from La-La Land Records (2018)   
    I ordered Harry Potter box set, The World is not Enough and Die Another Day in the same order. I received notification it has shipped on 13th December. I ordered the order on November 27th, so I waited for 17 days.
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    Bayesian reacted to King Mark in Harry Potter - The John Williams Soundtrack Collection 7CD boxset from La-La Land Records (2018)   
    like this .it my main hobby besides JW and videogames
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     


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    Bayesian got a reaction from rpvee in Score from ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story’ Disqualified from Oscar Race   
    Disney may want nothing to do with Solo anymore, but that’s a hell of a way to treat Powell (if indeed they “forgot” to submit on time).
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    Bayesian got a reaction from mahler3 in Elders of JWFan, what were the forums like during the Dark Ages (2005 - 2011)?   
    Oh, I’m not trying to be snarky! I actually am interested in reading more about this era. I didn’t really start to develop my JW fascination until 2013-2014 (although I remember taking note of him after Jurassic Park). I can imagine, though, that if I joined up here in ‘06, I’d not have much reason to think we’d ever have the embarrassment of riches we’ve enjoyed over the last few years. Six years is a long time for a scoring drought (KOTCS notwithstanding). What did people talk about here to pass the time?
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    Bayesian got a reaction from Once in Score from ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story’ Disqualified from Oscar Race   
    Disney may want nothing to do with Solo anymore, but that’s a hell of a way to treat Powell (if indeed they “forgot” to submit on time).
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    Bayesian got a reaction from ATXHusker in Harry Potter - The John Williams Soundtrack Collection 7CD boxset from La-La Land Records (2018)   
    Mine is #167105 and it’s still awaiting shipment too. Misery loves company : )
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    Bayesian reacted to gkgyver in Score from ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story’ Disqualified from Oscar Race   
    That's one hell of an organisation you're running there.
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