Bayesian

Yes, that is my one big caveat with the film. Snyder has such a rich and big visual landscape, he doesn't need pompous dialogue on top. It's like he took the space opera thing literally, creating an over-the-top libretto to match the images. But that isn't really necessary. There are so many good qualities with this film, he could have toned down that a bit. That's one of the big success factors of STAR WARS - some people, like the Emperor, speaks in a pompous style, while the regular folks, like Luke Skywalker, just mind their own everyday business ("But I was going to the Tosche station to pick up some power converters!"). It's a good way to denote class differences.
 
But hey -- in the scheme of things, that's not enough to drag down my very positive experience of this film - love the SEVEN SAMURAI-like plot, love the mise-en-scene, loved the music, loved the performances, loved the neat visual ideas and inserts etc. etc. He's created a universe I really want to explore further, and I hope he gets the opportunity to. 

I too am finding Rebel Moon very disappointing. (I’m about two-thirds of the way through.) The problem for me is that it’s too damn derivative. Yeah, I get that Snyder is aiming to make an “adult” Star Wars, so we’re going to see some familiar tropes, but we have seen literally everything in this movie before. The copy-paste tame-a-wild-alien-bird bit from Avatar, the Nazi-looking bad guy, the wholesome, down-to-earth farming community…. in 2024, it’s just lazy for a filmmaker to copy so much from so many places, and it’s boring for the audience to watch it. 
 
Also, I’m getting pretty tired of every last character in movies like Rebel Moon speaking like they all went to boarding school. Every damn character speaks with such ponderous solemnity all the fucking time. No contractions, no folksy vernacular, no conversational humor. Just the goddamned King’s English, no matter the mood, no matter the scene or setting or context. A character from a Luddite farming community speaks no differently from a senior warmongering officer? Really? That’s just lazy, lazy, lazy. And it makes movies like Rebel Moon boring. 
 
Say what you want about Star Wars, but at least Lucas gave us alien languages, characters from different social classes who actually sorta kinda acted or talked like it, and an innovative look for the bad guy. We need filmmaking to find that kind of creativity again. 

I too am finding Rebel Moon very disappointing. (I’m about two-thirds of the way through.) The problem for me is that it’s too damn derivative. Yeah, I get that Snyder is aiming to make an “adult” Star Wars, so we’re going to see some familiar tropes, but we have seen literally everything in this movie before. The copy-paste tame-a-wild-alien-bird bit from Avatar, the Nazi-looking bad guy, the wholesome, down-to-earth farming community…. in 2024, it’s just lazy for a filmmaker to copy so much from so many places, and it’s boring for the audience to watch it. 
 
Also, I’m getting pretty tired of every last character in movies like Rebel Moon speaking like they all went to boarding school. Every damn character speaks with such ponderous solemnity all the fucking time. No contractions, no folksy vernacular, no conversational humor. Just the goddamned King’s English, no matter the mood, no matter the scene or setting or context. A character from a Luddite farming community speaks no differently from a senior warmongering officer? Really? That’s just lazy, lazy, lazy. And it makes movies like Rebel Moon boring. 
 
Say what you want about Star Wars, but at least Lucas gave us alien languages, characters from different social classes who actually sorta kinda acted or talked like it, and an innovative look for the bad guy. We need filmmaking to find that kind of creativity again. 

I think, it wouldn't work that way.
In the meantime I believe, that Williams doesn't work for the money, but for the fun of it. You could offer him billions of dollars, but he might respond "Sorry, but I rather go golfing today." and he will do so. He doesn't have to proof anything to anyone anymore.
As we all know, he loves working, but in the meantime he just works with people he knows and loves.
And I would say, he has earned that freedom to do whatever he likes.
He is not a music factory. He is a human being. 
Let us just be grateful for what we got and eventually still get.

I too am finding Rebel Moon very disappointing. (I’m about two-thirds of the way through.) The problem for me is that it’s too damn derivative. Yeah, I get that Snyder is aiming to make an “adult” Star Wars, so we’re going to see some familiar tropes, but we have seen literally everything in this movie before. The copy-paste tame-a-wild-alien-bird bit from Avatar, the Nazi-looking bad guy, the wholesome, down-to-earth farming community…. in 2024, it’s just lazy for a filmmaker to copy so much from so many places, and it’s boring for the audience to watch it. 
 
Also, I’m getting pretty tired of every last character in movies like Rebel Moon speaking like they all went to boarding school. Every damn character speaks with such ponderous solemnity all the fucking time. No contractions, no folksy vernacular, no conversational humor. Just the goddamned King’s English, no matter the mood, no matter the scene or setting or context. A character from a Luddite farming community speaks no differently from a senior warmongering officer? Really? That’s just lazy, lazy, lazy. And it makes movies like Rebel Moon boring. 
 
Say what you want about Star Wars, but at least Lucas gave us alien languages, characters from different social classes who actually sorta kinda acted or talked like it, and an innovative look for the bad guy. We need filmmaking to find that kind of creativity again. 

Recently watched the old "The Magnificent Seven". That was fun. Far faaar better movie. 
If Rebel Moon was one of the best movies of the year, then the movie industry is really in trouble.
 

Instead of watching this shit, watch the original Star Wars, the Star Trek movies, the Harry Potter series and Blade Runner.
 
I've stopped the movie after the first half. I will imagine the rest, IN-SLOW-MO-TION and over the next hours.
 
This kind of movie makes us realize how fortunate my generation was to grow up watching innovative films, both in terms of storytelling and visuals, where real artists were in charge, not just copycat idiots.

I haven’t, but it’s on my to-do list, alongside K-pax and the others mentioned above. 👍🏻

@Jay if there is a thread for this, please move.
 
So I got my 2023 Last.fm summary.
 
Not too surprising.

 
But I'm kind of proud of these two:

 

 
It's hard to compare the albums I listen to since some of my albums have custom tags (either for sorting purposes or to distinguish editions). But I figure "Jerry Goldsmith" and "The Enterprise" has got to be comparing apples to apples.
 
I'm guessing @Yavar Moradi has got to be in the top 13. I wonder who listens to The Enterprise more than I do?
 
My top track was "Main Title" by James Horner which Last.fm attributes to Braveheart. No chance.
 
And JW was STILL my top artist! (Between Sneakers, Zorro, and Battle Beyond the Stars I'm surprised Horner didn't gain more ground in the last month.)
 
On Spotify this was the Year of Subspace Rhapsody.
 
Happy New Year!

“I love his music! He’s right up there with Hans Zimmer!”
 
- far too many of them, unfortunately 

“I love his music! He’s right up there with Hans Zimmer!”
 
- far too many of them, unfortunately 

Agreed on all points. I would love if he also incorporated jazz elements into this concerto (jazz rhythms, progressions, colors…). Several of us here have hoped for awhile he would reach back into his jazz roots more often.

No kidding. Maybe with superhero fatigue finally setting in and a bit of luck, we might soon see studios pivot back toward literary sources again for story ideas.

My list, in terms of personal enjoyment:
 
1.  A New Hope
2. The Last Jedi
3. Revenge of the Sith
4. The Force Awakens
5. The Phantom Menace
6. Solo
7. Empire Strikes Back
8. everything else
 
So the thing about TESB is that I never thought it was all that great, outside of the score and the last hour or so. Han is at his asshole-iest when we see him on Hoth and the movie is slo-o-ow when Luke gets to Dagobah. I know this opinion is unpopular, to say the least, but I figured it was worth getting it out there before the year runs out. 

My list, in terms of personal enjoyment:
 
1.  A New Hope
2. The Last Jedi
3. Revenge of the Sith
4. The Force Awakens
5. The Phantom Menace
6. Solo
7. Empire Strikes Back
8. everything else
 
So the thing about TESB is that I never thought it was all that great, outside of the score and the last hour or so. Han is at his asshole-iest when we see him on Hoth and the movie is slo-o-ow when Luke gets to Dagobah. I know this opinion is unpopular, to say the least, but I figured it was worth getting it out there before the year runs out. 

Brief update in The Times interview today when they asked him what’s next: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/john-williams-maestro-of-the-melodic-spark-0w6mbp5fm
 
“Most imminently there's a piano concerto to be written for Emanuel Ax ("I finished the first movement yesterday")”

What a class act.

2022: "Indiana Jones is my last film score, I'm retiring from film scoring"
 
2023: Lucasfilm announces the Daisy Ridley film
 
Also 2023: "When I said I was retiring, I didn't mean I was retiring"
 
Coincidence? 🤔

Out of every artist in every genre on Spotify? Not really
 
If it makes you feel any better, he has more than double Zimmer's listeners

My list, in terms of personal enjoyment:
 
1.  A New Hope
2. The Last Jedi
3. Revenge of the Sith
4. The Force Awakens
5. The Phantom Menace
6. Solo
7. Empire Strikes Back
8. everything else
 
So the thing about TESB is that I never thought it was all that great, outside of the score and the last hour or so. Han is at his asshole-iest when we see him on Hoth and the movie is slo-o-ow when Luke gets to Dagobah. I know this opinion is unpopular, to say the least, but I figured it was worth getting it out there before the year runs out. 

Listened to this album for the first time today. Where the hell has this score been my whole life?? How did I manage to miss this (and the movie it was written for) for two decades?? And why hasn't it been expanded yet by a specialty label??
 
Count of Monte Cristo was directed by the guy who made Waterworld -- one of my favorite action/adventures of all time -- and Robin Hood PoT. Theoretically, I should have been all over this movie (and its score) from day one. Now I wish I had been.

Ah, yes, the Martian. A great Ridley Scott movie. You know, since Thanksgiving, almost all of my music and motion picture entertainment discoveries (outside of LLL’s Hook) are due to my newfound fascination with Sir Scott. After Napoleon came out, I realized I really didn’t know the man’s work outside of his biggest four or five films. By way of Napoleon, I learned about the Duellists (great movie)—and the terrific music of Howard Blake— and about Bondarchuk’s Waterloo from 1970, and then about other movies featuring Napoleon, including, just today, Count of Monte Cristo. Which then led me to learn about the music of Ed Shearmur. It’s been an interesting and rewarding few weeks.

Ah, yes, the Martian. A great Ridley Scott movie. You know, since Thanksgiving, almost all of my music and motion picture entertainment discoveries (outside of LLL’s Hook) are due to my newfound fascination with Sir Scott. After Napoleon came out, I realized I really didn’t know the man’s work outside of his biggest four or five films. By way of Napoleon, I learned about the Duellists (great movie)—and the terrific music of Howard Blake— and about Bondarchuk’s Waterloo from 1970, and then about other movies featuring Napoleon, including, just today, Count of Monte Cristo. Which then led me to learn about the music of Ed Shearmur. It’s been an interesting and rewarding few weeks.