bollemanneke

2024-04-18T08:43:37Z

No, because he said he was done with films, right? He's done enough, he needs to enjoy the time he has left.

Tallguy · Wednesday at 07:05 PM

You will never behave like that again.

Wednesday at 06:57 PM

On 13/04/2024 at 3:19 PM, Jurassic Shark said:

One could say it sunk.

Unlikely. God himself can't sink it.

BB-8 · Wednesday at 02:58 PM

I think I asked him about recording ideas before the concert, and he said he had no ideas. It's proabbly copyright nonsense no sensible human being cares about, but maybe he could use his Italian charm. I'm sure JW wouldn't mind us having the Milan concert.

Naïve Old Fart · Wednesday at 01:21 PM

Pulcinella suite, Marriner. Wow. Stravinsky can write... music?

Monday at 12:00 PM

Well that didn't work, 2 minutes too long.

QuartalHarmony · Monday at 10:58 AM

On 16/12/2023 at 5:49 PM, Jay said:

Well that's what Disc 3 is. You can listen to that (specifically tracks 1-21; the last 3 tracks are bonus tracks) as your short program.

11 of the OST album's 17 tracks are here exactly, and the other 6 can be easily approximated, yes.

(Really, if a modern rebuild of the OST album from 1st generation elements if what you're after, that was released by Mondo in 2021 on vinyl. Hopefully Sony Music replaces the old master with this rebuild on digital platforms at some point)

But, to use this set to approximate the OST album, it's easy:

OST LLL

1 Prologue 1:31 2-11 Hook Prologue 1:25

2 We Don't Wanna Grow Up 1:50 3-01 We Don't Wanna Grow Up 1:52

3 Banning Back Home 2:22 2-12 Banning Back Home (Extended Version) 4:24

4 Granny Wendy 2:57 1-10 Forgotten How To Fly 0:56
and
1-04 Wendy's Entrance 2:12

5 Hook-Napped 3:56 1-09 Hook Is Back 2:09
and
1-08 Hook Returns To Kensington 2:00

6 The Arrival Of Tink And The Flight To Neverland 5:56 1-12 Arrival Of Tink 3:33
and
3-08 The Flight to Neverland (Alternate) 2:33

7 Presenting The Hook 2:58 1-14 Pirate Town And Presenting The Hook 5:09

8 From Mermaids To Lost Boys 4:24 2-13 From Mermaids To Lost Boys 4:26

9 The Lost Boy Chase 3:32 1-20 The Lost Boy Chase 3:35

10 Smee's Plan 1:45 1-23 Smee's Plan 1:46

11 The Banquet 3:08 1-26 The Banquet 3:14

12 The Never-Feast 4:39 3-14 The Never-Feast 4:42

13 Remembering Childhood 11:02 3-18 Remembering Childhood 11:06

14 You Are The Pan 4:00 2-04 You Are The Pan (Film Version) 1:26
and
1-21 The Face Of Pan 2:42

15 When You Are Alone 3:14 1-28 When You're Alone 3:17

16 The Ultimate War 7:53 2-15 The Ultimate War 7:54

17 Farewell Neverland 10:17 2-09 Farewell Neverland 10:18

This is all mentioned in the liner notes, of course.

Alternatively, you can spruce things up by using alternates/film versions instead

OST LLL

1 Prologue 1:31 1-01 Hook Prologue (Extended Version) 1:33

2 We Don't Wanna Grow Up 1:50 1-02 We Don’t Wanna Grow Up (Extended Version) 2:57

3 Banning Back Home 2:22 1-03 Banning Back Home (Film Version) 3:21

4 Granny Wendy 2:57 1-10 Forgotten How To Fly 0:56
and
1-04 Wendy's Entrance 2:12

5 Hook-Napped 3:56 1-09 Hook Is Back 2:09
and
1-08 Hook Returns To Kensington 2:00

6 The Arrival Of Tink And The Flight To Neverland 5:56 3-06 The Arrival Of Tink (Alternate) 3:35
and
1-13 The Flight To Neverland 2:40

7 Presenting The Hook 2:58 3-24 Presenting The Hook (Vocal Version Segment) 1:38

8 From Mermaids To Lost Boys 4:24 1-18 From Mermaids To Lost Boys (Film Version) 4:26

9 The Lost Boy Chase 3:32 3-10 The Lost Boy Chase (Alternate) 3:34

10 Smee's Plan 1:45 1-23 Smee's Plan 1:46

11 The Banquet 3:08 1-26 The Banquet 3:14

12 The Never-Feast 4:39 1-27 The Never-Feast (Film Version) 4:41

13 Remembering Childhood 11:02 2-02 Home Run And Follow That Shadow 5:24
and
2-03 Peter Remembers (The Flying Sequence) 8:23

14 You Are The Pan 4:00 2-04 You Are The Pan (Film Version) 1:26
and
2-14 The Face Of Pan (Choral Version) 2:43

15 When You Are Alone 3:14 3-14 When You’re Alone (Instrumental) 3:19

16 The Ultimate War 7:53 2-06 The Ultimate War (Film Version) 8:02

17 Farewell Neverland 10:17 3-20 Farewell Neverland (Short Version / Alternate) 6:54

Or mix and match between the two

I'm really excited to try your alternate OST program suggestion. But I want to take things further still: I'm going to insert the Boston Pops concert arrangements in it.

Monday at 10:05 AM

I'm just starting to listen to the Hook Pre-Concorde bootleg, just to see how bad it is.

Violin totally botching Hook's March. Nice.

Naïve Old Fart · Sunday at 01:21 PM

But this is what I don't understand. Flashpoint, as an album, is great. But we can't have a second disc that contains those B-sides, and thereby covering everything. Meanwhile, Steel Wheels 2000 seems to favour different performances, which I don't want. Straightforward releases would be heaven.

Naïve Old Fart · Sunday at 12:39 PM

But it still seems to be missing Play with Fire, which Wikipedia says was recorded too.

Sunday at 11:59 AM

Question: I'm looking to buy Flashpoint by the Rolling Stones, but am I correct in saying that, for some stupid reason, a complete album was never released? They seem to have recorded more stuff that was only released as b-sides, whatever those are.

Thor · Saturday at 06:33 PM

Not insensitive at all, but I'm not quite sure how to answer it.

Do you mean, how do I watch them? Well, in this case I'd just be enjoying the surround version as opposed to the stereo mix, provided they've invented better hearing aids by that time since my right eardrum had to go and become all funny and healing is not something it wants to.

Or do you mean, why would I want to watch them with someone? Maybe to ask their opinion on what they see or the occasional description of what they see. Or because I'm guessing it would be more exciting for them to watch instead of just listen.

Does that answer your question?

Saturday at 05:50 PM

I don't doubt it. But once you CAN do it it surround, properly, you should.

BB-8 · Saturday at 05:42 PM

I have both, bought only so I could watch them with an as of yet non-existent other half at a distant point in the future for her conversion to JW.

Saturday at 05:39 PM

Because it can. Because it always sounds better if the music has a little more room to breathe.

Saturday at 05:13 PM

I'm curious, what's so special about Japan? As in, why do they often seem to get SACD releases etc. that would sell in other countries too? Why Japan?

Saturday at 01:56 PM

Huh, same seems to be happening with Groundhog Day.

Saturday at 12:29 PM

That's just plain weird. How did it work in theatres then?

Saturday at 12:14 PM

I just got Presumed Innocent on DVD. Is it normal there's only a 2 channel audio track? Was no surround sound version released?

Naïve Old Fart · April 12

Green hornet, halfway. Here we go again, Seth Rogen playing a guy you hate after an hour, pfff. Wonder what Beethoven recording they used.

April 12

Minority Report sold out, apparently.

Trope · April 12

Their third best release after Hook and HP is now out of print.

enderdrag64 · April 11

HP1 especially is a score you just need from beginning to end. And if one needs to cut, one should stick to the film order and not waste time on a suite that nobody was missing to begin with because they didn't know it. Mind, I don't understand why JKR had to be difficult about a separate release. Her books made people read, why couldn't they make people listen to the orchestra?

April 11

I don't think he wants that. He wants Through The Doors from that set.

April 9

Must resist, must resist...

OST	LLL
1 Prologue 1:31	2-11 Hook Prologue 1:25
2 We Don't Wanna Grow Up 1:50	3-01 We Don't Wanna Grow Up 1:52
3 Banning Back Home 2:22	2-12 Banning Back Home (Extended Version) 4:24
4 Granny Wendy 2:57	1-10 Forgotten How To Fly 0:56 and 1-04 Wendy's Entrance 2:12
5 Hook-Napped 3:56	1-09 Hook Is Back 2:09 and 1-08 Hook Returns To Kensington 2:00
6 The Arrival Of Tink And The Flight To Neverland 5:56	1-12 Arrival Of Tink 3:33 and 3-08 The Flight to Neverland (Alternate) 2:33
7 Presenting The Hook 2:58	1-14 Pirate Town And Presenting The Hook 5:09
8 From Mermaids To Lost Boys 4:24	2-13 From Mermaids To Lost Boys 4:26
9 The Lost Boy Chase 3:32	1-20 The Lost Boy Chase 3:35
10 Smee's Plan 1:45	1-23 Smee's Plan 1:46
11 The Banquet 3:08	1-26 The Banquet 3:14
12 The Never-Feast 4:39	3-14 The Never-Feast 4:42
13 Remembering Childhood 11:02	3-18 Remembering Childhood 11:06
14 You Are The Pan 4:00	2-04 You Are The Pan (Film Version) 1:26 and 1-21 The Face Of Pan 2:42
15 When You Are Alone 3:14	1-28 When You're Alone 3:17
16 The Ultimate War 7:53	2-15 The Ultimate War 7:54
17 Farewell Neverland 10:17	2-09 Farewell Neverland 10:18

OST	LLL
1 Prologue 1:31	1-01 Hook Prologue (Extended Version) 1:33
2 We Don't Wanna Grow Up 1:50	1-02 We Don’t Wanna Grow Up (Extended Version) 2:57
3 Banning Back Home 2:22	1-03 Banning Back Home (Film Version) 3:21
4 Granny Wendy 2:57	1-10 Forgotten How To Fly 0:56 and 1-04 Wendy's Entrance 2:12
5 Hook-Napped 3:56	1-09 Hook Is Back 2:09 and 1-08 Hook Returns To Kensington 2:00
6 The Arrival Of Tink And The Flight To Neverland 5:56	3-06 The Arrival Of Tink (Alternate) 3:35 and 1-13 The Flight To Neverland 2:40
7 Presenting The Hook 2:58	3-24 Presenting The Hook (Vocal Version Segment) 1:38
8 From Mermaids To Lost Boys 4:24	1-18 From Mermaids To Lost Boys (Film Version) 4:26
9 The Lost Boy Chase 3:32	3-10 The Lost Boy Chase (Alternate) 3:34
10 Smee's Plan 1:45	1-23 Smee's Plan 1:46
11 The Banquet 3:08	1-26 The Banquet 3:14
12 The Never-Feast 4:39	1-27 The Never-Feast (Film Version) 4:41
13 Remembering Childhood 11:02	2-02 Home Run And Follow That Shadow 5:24 and 2-03 Peter Remembers (The Flying Sequence) 8:23
14 You Are The Pan 4:00	2-04 You Are The Pan (Film Version) 1:26 and 2-14 The Face Of Pan (Choral Version) 2:43
15 When You Are Alone 3:14	3-14 When You’re Alone (Instrumental) 3:19
16 The Ultimate War 7:53	2-06 The Ultimate War (Film Version) 8:02
17 Farewell Neverland 10:17	3-20 Farewell Neverland (Short Version / Alternate) 6:54

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