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I ugly-cried at the ending when I first saw it. One of my favourite films of all time.
 
The score is really good. I find it slightly ironic that the most famous theme from the movie was written not by Ennio Morricone, but by his son. At least, that's what I've heard, the reality might be different.
 
 

Per Cinema Herald:
 
Legendary composer John Williams has been tapped to score Oliver Stone's upcoming film, "Donald Trump," set for release in 2027. The film will explore the life and presidency of Donald Trump. Stone, known for his provocative and politically charged filmmaking style, is expected to bring his unique perspective to this highly anticipated project.
 
Williams expressed his excitement for the collaboration, stating, "Working with Oliver Stone is always a creatively fulfilling experience, and I am thrilled to be a part of this project."
 
Williams revealed that he has already written the main theme. “Oliver wanted me to write an ambiguous theme that could be played in either a major or minor key, depending on the context. So I wrote a motif that goes up a major second, down a perfect fifth, and then up a perfect fourth. Hopefully, I’ve written something that might contribute in some way to the audience’s listening experience, if only on a subconscious level.”
 
This collaboration is set to deliver a captivating musical narrative, leaving fans eagerly awaiting the film's release.

When I listen to Zimmer, I think, well, he knows what he's doing, he just doesn't know much. When I listen to Elfman, I legit don't know if he knows what he's doing. I think their lack of training is obvious, and limits their potential. But then, we have someone like Desplat who is trained, and clearly knows what he's doing, but is so boring I've fallen asleep trying to listen to his scores. I think Jerry and James and Johnny stick around because they had extensive education, and the spark of the Muse. I think you need both to be great. 

Zimmer can't write music either.
 

I haven't listened to all Jerry Goldsmith, though a while ago I did go through a bunch of 15 minute suites of his scores on Youtube. But I'm still not that familiar with his Star Trek work, for example (in fact I'm listening to it now )
 
That said, my favourite so far is Total Recall. Someone who doesn't know anything about music might dismiss it as a silly action score, and in a way it is silly, but on closer inspection it reveals amazing artistry. And it's an enjoyable listen from start to finish.
 
It's so hard to choose with Goldsmith, though, because all of his works are so diverse. With Williams, even though he has also written in different genres, I feel that you can always pick out a single internal language in his soundtrack work. With Goldsmith it's not so obvious, and he's better at being more chameleon-like. But then I've listened to far more Williams than Goldsmith, so that might just be a bias of mine.
 
EDIT: Just finished listening to The Enterprise for the first time. As if I needed any more confirmation that Goldsmith is a genius! Brilliant track, almost a perfect encapsulation of epic/heroic musical tropes of that time (not in a bad way). Lots of Debussy influences.

It was Herb Spencer.

 
With that said, JW's sketches are extremely detailed and as Conrad Pope says, an orchestrator for JW's film is a glorified editor.  He's specific about the instrumentation, rhythms, voicings, ornaments, doublings, solos, etc., all in the sketch.

Well that and the restraining order he has against us.  

And here is what it sounds like.

Hi, 
im new to the Forum. Been a Big Williams Fan for several years now.(I am only 21) I have been reading the Forum for a while now every once in a while. And sometimes i get the urge to chime in, so i created an account.
 
Here is a Handwritten Letter/Theme i stumbled upon by Williams and i was Wondering wether anyone new anything about this. I couldnt find
anything on this Forum about it.
 

 

It must be Mod - short for moderato, an indication of the tempo.  Either that or Moo - to play the music as if you were a cow. 

I haven't listened to all Jerry Goldsmith, though a while ago I did go through a bunch of 15 minute suites of his scores on Youtube. But I'm still not that familiar with his Star Trek work, for example (in fact I'm listening to it now )
 
That said, my favourite so far is Total Recall. Someone who doesn't know anything about music might dismiss it as a silly action score, and in a way it is silly, but on closer inspection it reveals amazing artistry. And it's an enjoyable listen from start to finish.
 
It's so hard to choose with Goldsmith, though, because all of his works are so diverse. With Williams, even though he has also written in different genres, I feel that you can always pick out a single internal language in his soundtrack work. With Goldsmith it's not so obvious, and he's better at being more chameleon-like. But then I've listened to far more Williams than Goldsmith, so that might just be a bias of mine.
 
EDIT: Just finished listening to The Enterprise for the first time. As if I needed any more confirmation that Goldsmith is a genius! Brilliant track, almost a perfect encapsulation of epic/heroic musical tropes of that time (not in a bad way). Lots of Debussy influences.

On the topic of cello concertos, here's one of my favourites...written by John Williams' composition teacher!
 
 

On the topic of cello concertos, here's one of my favourites...written by John Williams' composition teacher!
 
 

I've always assumed it's an intentional orchestration effect. I like it.

1:11-1:18 (horns take over the line from then but the strings continue in the back until 1:22)
 
Goddammit I had to listen to the full track because of you, I can't just stop there. That fiddle near the end rules! Adds some much needed diversity and more fun.

Yes, along with Elgar's Cello Concerto one of the best of the genre.  Also very satisfying to perform.  I played in the orchestra on this piece in a concert and was struck how well it feels and how exciting the ending bars were.  I've noticed that with all Dvorak I've performed, it's very well executed even if you don't play much, each note has purpose.  In contrast, Robert Schumann, I played throughout it but felt much of that served no purpose and wasn't exactly clear what I was needed for.  

Jaw-droppingly good:
 
 
I think this might overtake the New World symphony as my favorite Dvorak composition!

I haven't listened to all Jerry Goldsmith, though a while ago I did go through a bunch of 15 minute suites of his scores on Youtube. But I'm still not that familiar with his Star Trek work, for example (in fact I'm listening to it now )
 
That said, my favourite so far is Total Recall. Someone who doesn't know anything about music might dismiss it as a silly action score, and in a way it is silly, but on closer inspection it reveals amazing artistry. And it's an enjoyable listen from start to finish.
 
It's so hard to choose with Goldsmith, though, because all of his works are so diverse. With Williams, even though he has also written in different genres, I feel that you can always pick out a single internal language in his soundtrack work. With Goldsmith it's not so obvious, and he's better at being more chameleon-like. But then I've listened to far more Williams than Goldsmith, so that might just be a bias of mine.
 
EDIT: Just finished listening to The Enterprise for the first time. As if I needed any more confirmation that Goldsmith is a genius! Brilliant track, almost a perfect encapsulation of epic/heroic musical tropes of that time (not in a bad way). Lots of Debussy influences.

I haven't listened to all Jerry Goldsmith, though a while ago I did go through a bunch of 15 minute suites of his scores on Youtube. But I'm still not that familiar with his Star Trek work, for example (in fact I'm listening to it now )
 
That said, my favourite so far is Total Recall. Someone who doesn't know anything about music might dismiss it as a silly action score, and in a way it is silly, but on closer inspection it reveals amazing artistry. And it's an enjoyable listen from start to finish.
 
It's so hard to choose with Goldsmith, though, because all of his works are so diverse. With Williams, even though he has also written in different genres, I feel that you can always pick out a single internal language in his soundtrack work. With Goldsmith it's not so obvious, and he's better at being more chameleon-like. But then I've listened to far more Williams than Goldsmith, so that might just be a bias of mine.
 
EDIT: Just finished listening to The Enterprise for the first time. As if I needed any more confirmation that Goldsmith is a genius! Brilliant track, almost a perfect encapsulation of epic/heroic musical tropes of that time (not in a bad way). Lots of Debussy influences.

I haven't listened to all Jerry Goldsmith, though a while ago I did go through a bunch of 15 minute suites of his scores on Youtube. But I'm still not that familiar with his Star Trek work, for example (in fact I'm listening to it now )
 
That said, my favourite so far is Total Recall. Someone who doesn't know anything about music might dismiss it as a silly action score, and in a way it is silly, but on closer inspection it reveals amazing artistry. And it's an enjoyable listen from start to finish.
 
It's so hard to choose with Goldsmith, though, because all of his works are so diverse. With Williams, even though he has also written in different genres, I feel that you can always pick out a single internal language in his soundtrack work. With Goldsmith it's not so obvious, and he's better at being more chameleon-like. But then I've listened to far more Williams than Goldsmith, so that might just be a bias of mine.
 
EDIT: Just finished listening to The Enterprise for the first time. As if I needed any more confirmation that Goldsmith is a genius! Brilliant track, almost a perfect encapsulation of epic/heroic musical tropes of that time (not in a bad way). Lots of Debussy influences.

I haven't listened to all Jerry Goldsmith, though a while ago I did go through a bunch of 15 minute suites of his scores on Youtube. But I'm still not that familiar with his Star Trek work, for example (in fact I'm listening to it now )
 
That said, my favourite so far is Total Recall. Someone who doesn't know anything about music might dismiss it as a silly action score, and in a way it is silly, but on closer inspection it reveals amazing artistry. And it's an enjoyable listen from start to finish.
 
It's so hard to choose with Goldsmith, though, because all of his works are so diverse. With Williams, even though he has also written in different genres, I feel that you can always pick out a single internal language in his soundtrack work. With Goldsmith it's not so obvious, and he's better at being more chameleon-like. But then I've listened to far more Williams than Goldsmith, so that might just be a bias of mine.
 
EDIT: Just finished listening to The Enterprise for the first time. As if I needed any more confirmation that Goldsmith is a genius! Brilliant track, almost a perfect encapsulation of epic/heroic musical tropes of that time (not in a bad way). Lots of Debussy influences.

@Tom Guernsey 
 
TWATL
 

 
Agreed about the score, though. 'Raisulli Attacks' is astonishing.

THE MUMMY.

Music - especially leitmotivic music - can bring out the inner world and psychology of the character, but Williams perhaps doesn't do much of it, and even if he wanted isn't granted the opportunity to do so by the films (understandable given their idiom). Again, the exception mostly being some of Anakin's music, probably.

Got to see him once at the Southbank Centre performing Chopin's Preludes. A formidable force of piano playing. RIP