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artguy360 reacted to Jurassic Shark in What are your thoughts on John Williams' new theme for Obi-Wan?
He better start working on that aunt Beru theme.
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artguy360 got a reaction from Docteur Qui in Natalie Holt's OBI-WAN KENOBI (2022)
You seem a little fixated with Holt's gender. Plenty of men write passable soundtracks, including for other Disney+ shows and their work hasn't been rejected. The fact that you haven't watched the show but are willing to make the judgment and assumption that had Holt been male her score would have been rejected is really something.
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artguy360 got a reaction from Chewy in Natalie Holt's OBI-WAN KENOBI (2022)
So far none of the music has been standout except for the moments JW's theme is used and even those moments are just ok. The music just isn't having much of an impact in the show. I'm not sure it's bad music, it's just generic and just kind of there.
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artguy360 got a reaction from JTW in Natalie Holt's OBI-WAN KENOBI (2022)
You seem a little fixated with Holt's gender. Plenty of men write passable soundtracks, including for other Disney+ shows and their work hasn't been rejected. The fact that you haven't watched the show but are willing to make the judgment and assumption that had Holt been male her score would have been rejected is really something.
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artguy360 got a reaction from DarthDementous in Natalie Holt's OBI-WAN KENOBI (2022)
You seem a little fixated with Holt's gender. Plenty of men write passable soundtracks, including for other Disney+ shows and their work hasn't been rejected. The fact that you haven't watched the show but are willing to make the judgment and assumption that had Holt been male her score would have been rejected is really something.
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artguy360 got a reaction from Not Mr. Big in Natalie Holt's OBI-WAN KENOBI (2022)
You seem a little fixated with Holt's gender. Plenty of men write passable soundtracks, including for other Disney+ shows and their work hasn't been rejected. The fact that you haven't watched the show but are willing to make the judgment and assumption that had Holt been male her score would have been rejected is really something.
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artguy360 got a reaction from Bofur01 in What are your thoughts on John Williams' new theme for Obi-Wan?
Listening to it more (at least 14 times now), it is a decent minor SW theme. It's perfectly nice to listen to as almost all JW music is, and it fits the psychology and state of Obi Wan at this time. But it's the least interesting of all JW's recent SW themes. Even Galaxy's Edge and Adventures of Han are both better.
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artguy360 reacted to Fabulin in Obi-Wan Theme debuts at Star Wars Celebration, conducted by John Williams
Touché. But while the ostinato offers variety, it preserves and contributes to the unabashedly serious and dramatic mood. Rebellion is Reborn is a nice contrasting piece where that is not the case.
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artguy360 got a reaction from MaxTheHouseelf in What are your thoughts on John Williams' new theme for Obi-Wan?
Listening to it more (at least 14 times now), it is a decent minor SW theme. It's perfectly nice to listen to as almost all JW music is, and it fits the psychology and state of Obi Wan at this time. But it's the least interesting of all JW's recent SW themes. Even Galaxy's Edge and Adventures of Han are both better.
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artguy360 got a reaction from Ricard in Obi-Wan Theme released as a single!
I don't think the word suite was used in any official way. I believe Holt said suite when she referred to what JW recorded. I assume she was referring to the theme and a series of variations he composed. I think JW did something similar for Solo. He wrote a theme and several cues to show how the theme could be used in the film.
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artguy360 got a reaction from Jurassic Shark in Obi-Wan Theme debuts at Star Wars Celebration, conducted by John Williams
I'm just happy to know William Ross is still out here doing his JW stand in thing. No one does it better.
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artguy360 got a reaction from aescalle in Obi-Wan Theme debuts at Star Wars Celebration, conducted by John Williams
Here's the end credits music:
https://youtu.be/HTxk5TT4Nds
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artguy360 got a reaction from BB-8 in Obi-Wan Theme debuts at Star Wars Celebration, conducted by John Williams
The credits are weird. It seems like Holt wrote the entire score and then JW delivered his theme so they hired William Ross to record new material adapting the theme into the show itself?
Also, the theme is used everywhere, I think we hear it more in episode 1 than we heard the Force theme in A New Hope.
Lastly, is the end credits something JW recorded? It starts differently than what he conducted today.
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artguy360 reacted to Demondm810 in Obi-Wan Theme debuts at Star Wars Celebration, conducted by John Williams
William Ross gets credit for theme adaptation.
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artguy360 got a reaction from Muad'Dib in Obi-Wan Theme debuts at Star Wars Celebration, conducted by John Williams
To me the "epicness" is very similar to how JW scored signature moments of TLJ like Lesson One, Holdo's Resolve, The Spark, and The Last Jedi. The ostinato and brass in the Obi Wan theme remind me of those moments.
The melodic sense of burden reminds me of the Luke in Exile theme.
All together it is a slow, heavy theme that seems to be about Obi Wan's state of mind.
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artguy360 got a reaction from Will in Obi-Wan Theme debuts at Star Wars Celebration, conducted by John Williams
To me the "epicness" is very similar to how JW scored signature moments of TLJ like Lesson One, Holdo's Resolve, The Spark, and The Last Jedi. The ostinato and brass in the Obi Wan theme remind me of those moments.
The melodic sense of burden reminds me of the Luke in Exile theme.
All together it is a slow, heavy theme that seems to be about Obi Wan's state of mind.
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artguy360 reacted to Brando in Obi-Wan Theme debuts at Star Wars Celebration, conducted by John Williams
From the SW Facebook page
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artguy360 reacted to Fabulin in Obi-Wan Theme debuts at Star Wars Celebration, conducted by John Williams
I would never have thought that Star Wars makers would give Williams an opportunity to write a concert piece on a topic of tragedy and focus on the psychology of a traumatized character. This is the kind of unconditional dramatic seriousness that Williams's blockbuster scores has often been accused of lacking in contrast to operas or, say, Herrmann's scores. But even with that being the case in this assignment, the choice of Wagnerian/Brucknerian tonality and rhythm is not something I expected from Williams, certainly not to that extent. Always a step ahead of us he is.
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artguy360 got a reaction from Groovygoth666 in Since 1990, has John Williams ever scored a bad movie, and how did his score impact the film?
Of the JW scored films I've seen that are post 1990, and all Star Wars films aside, I would name:
Sabrina - I think the romance doesn't feel authentic. The two leads just don't work for me. I like JW's score for the film although I don't listen to any of it aside from the main theme.
Stepmom - the story is compelling but there are some real cliche moments and a lot of the child acting is rough. Another solid score from JW.
The Patriot - frankly the film is insulting in many ways both historical and in terms of characterization. A score with very good moments. Some period-tinged, full blast JW Americana is always fun.
Maybe the 2nd Harry Potter movie and definitely the 4th Indiana Jones movie. I love JW's new themes for the 2nd HP movie. I don't love anything about IJ4, and that includes JW's score.
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artguy360 reacted to Docteur Qui in Obi-Wan Theme debuts at Star Wars Celebration, conducted by John Williams
Eh? There’s a whole wonderful, wistful melody in there, played several times, with deliberate resemblance to The Force theme, Luke in Exile, Jedi Steps etc.
listen harder.
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artguy360 got a reaction from BrotherSound in Obi-Wan Theme debuts at Star Wars Celebration, conducted by John Williams
I like the surprise opening on strings and the slow rise of the main melody. Overall, it does remind me of the Luke in Exile theme from TLJ when it goes ostinato and brassy. I hope we get an official release very soon.
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artguy360 got a reaction from Bryant Burnette in "A Gathering of Friends" Williams / Yo Yo Ma album with Pablo Sainz-Villegas & Jessica Zhou
I actually really enjoy JW's concert music. I also enjoy when he reworks his film music into concert pieces, including when he really does to town on them like with several pieces on the Across the Stars album. However, in the case of With Malice Towards None, the earnest simplicity of the original on the Lincoln OST works best for what the music is trying to evoke.
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artguy360 got a reaction from GerateWohl in "A Gathering of Friends" Williams / Yo Yo Ma album with Pablo Sainz-Villegas & Jessica Zhou
I actually really enjoy JW's concert music. I also enjoy when he reworks his film music into concert pieces, including when he really does to town on them like with several pieces on the Across the Stars album. However, in the case of With Malice Towards None, the earnest simplicity of the original on the Lincoln OST works best for what the music is trying to evoke.
