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  1. I thought my first sentence made it clear that I watched the film. And I always watch with an open mind. But I know good scoring talent when I see it, and this wasn't it. Sorry.
  2. Back when I saw Joker in the theater I absolutely hated the score, almost as much as I hated Dunkirk. After it won the Golden Globe last night, I decided to give it a second chance and so I listened to the entire OST by itself first thing when I got up this morning. Oy. This is a terrible excuse for a film score. No variety throughout the entire thing, zero melody, zero creativity with the orchestration, no rhythmic movement whatsoever, it's basically a bunch of time-wasting long notes sustained in the strings with some added sound design type stuff. Hans Zimmer would be proud. I swear there are student composers with better writing ability than this. But of course, my non-composer friends will all tell me it was an INCREDIBLE soundtrack and that I just don't "get it". I've learned that film composers who write like this and take this easy way out (with long 1-note string cues and sound design gimmicks) aren't doing so because they think it's the right artistic choice, but rather because they don't have the proper compositional ability to write anything better. And the sad thing is, we now have to spend the next two months hearing about what a masterpiece this score is and how this woman from Iceland is actually a musical genius. I really hate these award shows.
  3. I don't remember "dealing" with you either. I'm not on here very often, but when I am I have good conversations with others. Sorry if my opinion on Zimmer hurt your feelings. Haughty pretense? Just posting my opinion of the film and score. Isn't that the purpose of this thread?
  4. Ha, sorry. Haven't been on in a while. I'll try to change it.
  5. I'll be happy to, if you can explain what that means. :-)
  6. I know I'm late to the thread, but I thought the movie was disappointing and the score was Zimmer at his absolute laziest. I keep holding out hope that he'll start making some sort of effort to compose real music, but I guess he has no reason to at this point. And frankly I don't think he's even comfortable with the idea anymore. The direction of film music continues to go downhill, and Zimmer (and his success among the masses) is a big reason why. Yeah you kids get off my lawn..
  7. I am in southern China and yesterday spent the day at a new theme park called Chimelong Ocean Kingdom. The place is utterly incredible and home to the largest aquarium in the world. One of the things that stood out was the soundtrack played throughout the park which was full of sweeping, orchestral music and very well put together. Does anyone know who composed this music and if it's available somewhere?
  8. I was at Royal Albert Hall in June seeing Romeo and Juliet and these were given out.
  9. Whatever you say, maestro. Now, I don't think either Sharky or myself have said anything to precipitate that sort of snarky name-calling. And calling someone's opinion ignorant is a compliment? And Maestro is hardly snarky. Sheesh lots of sensitive people here.
  10. Sorry I'm not giving you what you want to hear. But I'm happy to keep debating this. I'm just being honest. You asked this on a John Williams message board, what do you expect exactly? Maybe you'll get responses more to your liking on a Brian Eno board. Also please explain what you mean by melodic writing is similar to minimalism. All I'd like to hear is a well-reasoned opinion. I don't care whether or not it's in accordance with mine. Also, I didn't ask anything, so.... Maybe it was a bit harsh, but I feel my opinion was well reasoned. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
  11. Sorry I'm not giving you what you want to hear. But I'm happy to keep debating this. I'm just being honest. You asked this on a John Williams message board, what do you expect exactly? Maybe you'll get responses more to your liking on a Brian Eno board. Also please explain what you mean by melodic writing is similar to minimalism.
  12. Probably. It's far from the finest cue in Williams's ouvre, but is an effective pastiche of Stravinsky and Ravel in the 1910s. I'm sure Reich is familiar with the Firebird Suite and Le Valse, and could do write a similar cue in the same fin de si├Ęcle style. We are talking about a guy who went to Julliard and studied with Vincent Perisichetti, Darius Millaud and Luciano Motherfucking Berio who wrote the ultimate pastiche piece with his Sinfonia. You think Reich could write the Arrival of Tink/Flight to Neverland? Lol... sorry, but I think you're very wrong on that. Either that, or Reich has hidden some truly remarkable talent to himself all this time. And what does where they went to college have to do with it? Do you know how many people went to Juilliard?
  13. Explain what you mean by melodic writing is similar to minimalism. Like I alluded to earlier, Williams has always had a self-deprecating style to him, and he's always made it seem like what he does is no big deal, so I'm not surprised at anything he says that compliments another person or musical style. Not only does he never imply a single negative thing about anyone or any musical style, he lauds them. No matter how simple the music may be. He's just really gracious and respectful, of pretty much everything really. Shoot just a few weeks ago at the Art of the Film Composer talks in LA he was practically asking for Gustavo Santaolalla's autograph. Williams shows respect for everyone and everything, and in interviews he goes out of his way to make it sound like these musicians are all on the same level as himself. It's always been that way with him. He has the craziest modesty/ability ratio I've ever seen.
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