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    DominicCobb got a reaction from crumbs in The Rise of Skywalker - Disney Records OST   
    The pre order for Target has been up since at least this morning, already got mine. 
     
    Probably safe to say this is the cover art (minus the sticker).
     

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    DominicCobb reacted to stravinsky in L.A. Master Chorale returns for Rise of Skywalker?   
    I sang Tenor in the sessions for the Prequel scores with London Voices when I worked doing extra chorus at Covent Garden under the then chorus master Terry Edwards. I think we were paid around £225 for a 3 hour session. So quite lucrative. Strangely the sessions for Attack of the Clones were recorded on a Sunday. The movies were appaling and the scores (esp for EpisodeS II & III) were sub par in my estimation compared to Williams return to form with the sequel scores. But what an opportunity. I'll never forget it. 
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    DominicCobb reacted to Disco Stu in First clip from Rise of Skywalker - New music!   
    I love the music for when the Supremacy and the rest of the First Order fleet appears when the Resistance thinks they've escaped.  Fantastic version of Kylo's theme, and I love the small rhythmic motif right after that.  Last Jedi is brimming over with interesting little rhythmic motifs that never develop into anything.  As I've listened to the score many times over the past couple years, it's those small things that really add to the overall texture I've developed an appreciation for.
     
     
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    DominicCobb reacted to crumbs in The Rise of Skywalker - Disney Records OST   
    Or any of the corporations making billions digging up finite resources to burn for fuel.
     
    The disproportionate, cult-like obsession people have with Disney and the "harm" they're causing to society is indeed perplexing, if you have any grasp of reality and the harm some companies are actually causing to our planet.
     
    Oooh, "woke Disney" and their evil social engineering, infecting Star Wars with radical ideas like, "enslaving and abusing animals is bad." Those monsters!
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    DominicCobb reacted to Disco Stu in The Rise of Skywalker - Joann Kane Music Service pictures from the recording sessions   
    Ummmm, anyone else really excited to hear the last John Williams Star Wars OST?
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    DominicCobb reacted to Romão in The Rise of Skywalker - Joann Kane Music Service pictures from the recording sessions   
    According to JJ, there were reshoots on TFA than on this one.
     
     
    Was this massive reshoots rumor for TROS ever confirmed?
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    DominicCobb reacted to Jay in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Final Predictions (NO SPOILERS)   
    I couldn't submit the answers I wanted because Question 2 does not have a "none of the above" option.
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    DominicCobb reacted to crumbs in New article: Williams "has so far written about 25 minutes of score in about a month" for The Rise of Skywalker   
    Since when did Disney have test screenings for Star Wars? Seems more likely the haters on YouTube are just trying to create clickbait. 
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    DominicCobb reacted to tmarps in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Score Predictions   
    Scherzo for X-Wings?
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    DominicCobb got a reaction from Will in The Rise of Skywalker final trailer MUSIC discussion   
    I thought the TLJ trailer music in particular did a really good job of working Williams music into the type of track one expects from a trailer these days without going too far into over processed nonsense. The usage of themes in those trailers is honestly pretty impressive, and really goes to show how strong and untouchable Williams's work is that the trailers use his melodies, which is practically unheard of these days for any film to not just straight up use library trailer music (the Avengers trailers using Silvestri's theme is a notable exception and even then it's just minimally used as an add on to a preexisting library track).
     
    I think that first TLJ teaser in particular was very well written, and honestly I really enjoy the horn counterpoint to the Force theme here
     
     
    And the parallel Rey and Force themes near the beginning is done pretty well
     
     
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    DominicCobb reacted to Disco Stu in What changes would it take for you to not consider TLJ the worst of SW scores?   
    No one dislikes John Williams more than John Williams fans!
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    DominicCobb got a reaction from Will in "Space Battalions" by James Brett used in Star Wars promotional videos   
    Wow, three pieces from TLJ were in there and practically no one realized.
     
    As for the current topic, definitely going to say no, just sounds a lot like a good piece of library music too me, and I doubt whoever put this together (likely the Total Film team) was given access to Williams's score.
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    DominicCobb reacted to mrbellamy in What changes would it take for you to not consider TLJ the worst of SW scores?   
    Yeah I’ve grown to enjoy “A New Alliance” and the mickey-mousing for what it is but I was pretty disappointed that he didn’t go for something broader when I first saw that sequence. Like a more singular melodic or rhythmic action piece. 
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    DominicCobb reacted to Disco Stu in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Score Predictions   
    I'm mashing the imaginary down-vote button
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    DominicCobb reacted to Holko in The Infamous Phantom Menace Ultimate Edition   
    OK, quick rundown: (made up numbers to illustrate the point)
     
    1. Williams writes cues 11M5, 11M6, 11M7, 11M8 to all flow into each other well (this is how they are named, Reel 11, cue 5-8 for example)
     
    2. Williams revises and rerecords 11M5 to have a few different bars to change a motif, but they all still flow together the same way
     
    3. Williams finishes work
     
    4. Edit changes, Lucas changes his mind, Williams is not available anymore
     
    5. What ends up in the film is 11M5R, 5M3, XM1, 11M8
         11M5R is the revised piece from step 2, the original piece which may be very interesting gets discarded
         5M3, a shorter cue from earlier in the score and intended for a different context, replaces the longer 11M6 which is discarded
         XM1, a concert piece based on material found in 11M7 replaces 11M7 which is discarded, tempo no longer flows as well as in Step 2
         and let's say 3 bars are removed from 11M8 in a very unmusical way to fit the shortened picture.
     
    Williams' first idea is step 1, his final revised vision is step 2, the film version is step 5. What is on the TPM UE is step 5, which has little to do with what the composer of the music intended (and doesn't include his intended cues to allow the listener to recreate Step 2 themselves), flows much worse outside of the picture, and therefore has no place on a musical release in a normal case.
     
    Usually what modern expansion producers do is assemble the program as outlined in Step 2 (composer's complete final vision, with rare exceptions like Empire of the Sun or Alien, judged on a case-by-case, cue-by-cue basis) and include some original cues (like 11M5 from Step 1 before it was revised in Step 2) as curiosities. 5M3 is only present in its intended place earlier in the score, XM1, the concert arrangement, is usually after the bulk of the score, and the removed 3 bars from 11M8 are not removed.
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    DominicCobb got a reaction from Chen G. in The Rise of Skywalker score begins recording in June 2019   
    Am I mistaken or isn't the potential third motif being discussed part of that scene as well (playing right before his second theme and then in parallel with it, as in the TFA finale)? I'm not sure if calling it a motif or theme is accurate (I agree I wouldn't know what it signifies specifically that the other two don't), but it certainly seems to be related to Kylo's two themes, even if it doesn't always play at the same time. Perhaps a good comparison would be the rhythmic section that opens the Imperial March - what do we usually call that? 
     
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    DominicCobb got a reaction from Will in The Rise of Skywalker score might not be eligible for the Best Original Score Oscar   
    I don’t think a win is impossible, depending on the competition and quality of the score. If Disney decides to make a big deal of it, the fact that this is his last SW score and he hasn’t won in 26 years could be compelling narratives for voters.
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    DominicCobb got a reaction from Larry O in The Rise of Skywalker score might not be eligible for the Best Original Score Oscar   
    I don’t think a win is impossible, depending on the competition and quality of the score. If Disney decides to make a big deal of it, the fact that this is his last SW score and he hasn’t won in 26 years could be compelling narratives for voters.
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    DominicCobb got a reaction from crumbs in The Force Awakens - Complete Score Breakdown & Chronological Order (Film Spoilers Allowed)   
    Little late here, but Abrams has stated that "Who's Luke Skywalker?" was a line from Rey when she meets Finn that was reshot and replaced with "Luke Skywalker, I thought he was a myth."
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    DominicCobb got a reaction from BuzzLightyear in John Williams: Maestro of the Movies 40th Anniversary (Hollywood Bowl, Aug 31-Sep 1 & 2, 2018)   
    Finally saw Williams perform and I must say I really spoiled myself here. Seeing him conduct the last 15 minutes of ET with Steven mfing Spielberg on stage will be something I’ll never forget.
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    DominicCobb reacted to Indianagirl in Star Wars Disenchantment   
    There are many variables but one thing is certain....It has nothing to do with a boycott from petty self-entitled little brats who need to crawl back under the rock they came from.
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    DominicCobb reacted to Breadstick Basilisk in John Powell's SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY (2018) - Deluxe Edition release coming November 2020   
    Han (Hero)
     
    "Meet Han" 0:10
    "Corellia Chase" 0:05; 0:26; 1:33
    "Flying with Chewie" 1:34
    "Train Heist" 4:10
    "Marauders Arrive" 1:28
    "Is This Seat Taken?" 0:10; 0:25; 1:20; 1:45
    "Mine Mission" 2:27; 3:21
    "Break Out" 1:23; 1:51; 3:13
    "The Good Guy" 2:43
    "Reminiscence Therapy" 0:35; 3:54; 4:12
    "Into the Maw" 1:07; 1:53; 3:57
    "Savareen Stand-Off" 4:03
    "Testing Allegiance" 0:42; 1:45
    "Dice & Roll" 1:31
     
    Han (Searching)
     
    "Meet Han" 0:48; 1:25; 1:50
    "Corellia Chase" 0:47; 1:57; 2:43
    "Spaceport" 0:06; 0:14; 0:25; 3:17
    "Train Heist" 3:49
    "Marauders Arrive" 4:41
    "Break Out" 2:12
    "Into the Maw" 2:02; 4:31
    "Dice & Roll" 1:18
     
    Gang
     
    "Flying with Chewie" 0:39; 0:57
    "Train Heist" 1:46; 2:31; 2:54; 3:53; 4:23
    "Marauders Arrive" 3:12; 3:26; 4:30
    "Is This Seat Taken?" 0:36
    "L3 & Millennium Falcon" 2:26
    "Break Out" 2:32; 3:49
    "The Good Guy" 1:51
    "Into the Maw" 1:38; 2:13; 2:43; 2:56
    "Testing Allegiance" 0:21
     
    Love Theme
     
    "Spaceport" 1:56; 2:08; 2:43
    "Lando's Closet" 0:18; 0:52; 1:26
    "The Good Guy" 0:21; 1:11; 3:21
    "Into the Maw" 1:39
    "Savareen Stand-Off" 3:46
    "Good Thing You Were Listening" 1:17
    "Testing Allegiance" 2:11; 2:36; 3:27
     
    Chewie
     
    "Flying with Chewie" 0:10; 1:11; 2:15
    "Train Heist" 0:46
    "Marauders Arrive" 4:07
    "Mine Mission" 2:05
    "Break Out" 0:43
    "Reminiscence Therapy" 2:53
    "Good Thing You Were Listening" 1:45
     
    L3
     
    "L3 & Millennium Falcon" 0:03; 0:26
    "Mine Mission" 0:00; 1:57; 2:31
    "Break Out" 0:11; 4:10; 4:53
    "Reminiscence Therapy" 1:10; 5:23
    "Into the Maw" 1:43
     
    Enfys Nest
     
    "Marauders Arrive" 0:00; 0:46; 0:57; 4:33
    "Is This Seat Taken?" 0:44
    "L3 & Millennium Falcon" 2:46
    "Savareen Stand-Off" 0:33; 2:30
     
    -Cloud Riders action theme
    "Marauders Arrive" 0:23; 2:16
    "The Good Guy" 4:54
     
     
    Secrets
     
    "Meet Han" 0:00
    "Spaceport" 3:39
    "Lando's Closet" 1:05
    "The Good Guy" 0:46; 2:59; 3:19; 3:38; 4:08
    "Savareen Stand-Off" 3:19
    "Good Thing You Were Listening" 0:52
    "Testing Allegiance" 3:45
     
    Coaxium
     
    "Train Heist" 2:45
    "Mine Mission" 3:44
    "Break Out" 5:40
     
     
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    Rebel Fanfare
     
    "Is This Seat Taken?" 1:59
    "L3 & Millennium Falcon" 1:59
    "Reminiscence Therapy" 0:49; ("Here They Come!": 1:55; 2:08); 3:20; 4:35
    "Into the Maw" 4:18; 4:36
    "Dice & Roll" 0:57; 1:10
     
     
    Main Theme
     
    "Corellia Chase" 3:14
    "L3 & Millennium Falcon" 1:38
    "Reminiscence Therapy" 3:14; 4:44
    "Into the Maw" 3:47; 4:08
     
     
    Imperial Motif
     
    "Train Heist" 3:34; 4;03
     
     
    Death Star Motif
     
    "Reminiscence Therapy" 0:02
     
     
    "Mouse Robot and Blasting Off"
     
    "Reminiscence Therapy" 0:06
     
     
    "Attacking a Star Destroyer"
     
    "Reminiscence Therapy" 0:26; 0:38
     
     
    "Here They Come!"
     
    "Reminiscence Therapy" 1:42
     
     
    "The Asteroid Field"
     
    "Reminiscence Therapy" 2:39; 3:33
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    DominicCobb reacted to Falstaft in THE ADVENTURES OF HAN - 2018 John Williams theme for Solo: A Star Wars Story   
    I agree: melodically, it feels more like an outgrowth of "Searching," and in "The Adventures of Han," it initially sounds like a contrasting middle section for that theme (though retrospectively, it's perhaps more of a free episode, as it does not return IIRC). Interestingly, Powell treats it as a thematic continuation (or contrasting B section) of the main "Heroic" leitmotif -- not "Searching"-- on at least one occasion, near the start of "Corellia Chase."
     
    Notice how it occupies the same tonality at the start (I/F => V/Bb), and its mere proximity to the "Heroic" leitmotif brings out some of its structural affinities with that theme. I don't know the score well enough yet to say if he highlights its connections with "Searching," but I wouldn't be surprised if that happens too. 
     
    It's details like this that are making me appreciate Powell's score even more; his manipulations of Williams's material are (with a perhaps a few exceptions) remarkably compelling and compositionally assured.
     
     
      
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    DominicCobb reacted to The Five Tones in THE ADVENTURES OF HAN - 2018 John Williams theme for Solo: A Star Wars Story   
    It sounds like an outgrowth of the B with its acciaccatura-like melodic detail and falling interval (that doesn't resolve at the bottom like the A), but it could also be shown to derive from the A. It indirectly demonstrates how closely A (Lehman's "Heroic") and B ("Searching") are related in design. It also has the rising fourth pickup like Luke A / The Force, and falls back to its initial note like the Force, a sort of "do or do not" bit.
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