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The Complete Star Wars Prequels Boxset vs. The Rise of Skywalker OST
Score replied to Josh500's topic in JOHN WILLIAMS
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The concerto for guitar and marimba is on youtube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrzNQti2rxc There are also a few other things. If you are interested in his dodecaphonic side, here is his extremely dramatic rendition of "Se questo è un uomo", for strings, solo violin, soprano, and a speaker (based on a poem by Primo Levi, a Holocaust survivor): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oetbAnjmDXE Another piece that I find interesting is the set of three pieces for children voices titled "Il silenzio, il gioco, la memoria": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f14ExkmxlM The first one is a hommage to John Cage: it is based on various versions of the sequence of notes C - A - G - E, sometimes unaltered, sometimes with accidentals. For example, the final chord is formed by the notes C flat, A, G flat, E. I especially like the second piece, starting at 7:17, where he evokes the atmosphere of a group of children playing, and incorporates a sort of canon for 25 individual voices to create an "organized noise" (this section starts at 8:42). The third piece starts at 11:30. There are other pieces on youtube, but not many. It would be nice to have more recordings of his concert works...
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John Williams selected 5 greatest composers of all time.
Score replied to First TROS March Accolyte's topic in JOHN WILLIAMS
Hey, cool down, man. Were you the author of the survey? Anyway, as I said, I simply totally disagree with the way data are presented. And your assumption (a) sounds arbitrary to me (although I was making the top-10 example not to suggest a survey procedure, but just to say that a top-50 list based on that would have given different results and would have been questionable anyway). However, I don't care enough about this topic to enter a long debate about it. Enjoy the music! -
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John Williams selected 5 greatest composers of all time.
Score replied to First TROS March Accolyte's topic in JOHN WILLIAMS
It is a totally flawed concept, instead, because they are asking a question ("What are your favourite 5 composers?") and using the results to answer a very different question ("What are your favourite 50 composers?" - at least, this is what is implied by the very fact that they compiled a top-50 list). If they had asked "What are your favourite 10 composers?" instead, and made a top-50 list out of the result (which would have been similarly wrong anyway), the results would surely have been different. This is because composers that almost no one would put in their top 5 (and therefore, are totally absent from the above list) would likely show up in most top-10 lists, and so get enough votes to appear there. In other words, if you analyze the answers to a poll in a way that is not consistent with the posed question, the results cannot be robust. They progressively lose meaning the more you deviate from the posed question, i.e., the more you go below the first positions. The absence of pivotal composers such as Puccini and Liszt from the list above, should say enough. As a disclaimer, I don't really care about this and other similar lists, as they have zero influence on my opinions about music. I just wanted to point out that it is one of the many flawed ways in which data are presented nowadays. It's a bit worrying when similar mistakes are made on more important topics. -
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John Williams selected 5 greatest composers of all time.
Score replied to First TROS March Accolyte's topic in JOHN WILLIAMS
It's a statistical mistake to ask to vote 5 composers, and then make a list of 50. If composer X were at place number 6 in the list of all voters, he would not show up at all in such a list, while it should definitely be at place n.6. In fact, the list kind-of makes sense close to the top spots, and then progressively becomes total nonsense scrolling down. -
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The Beethoven example does not really fit. In that numerical notation, it would be 555 3 444 2 (it's in C minor, and starts on the note G, which is the 5th note of the scale). So, the Beethoven example has nothing to do with the Dies Irae, except that they are both in a minor key. In my opinion, there is indeed a similarity between the Shore example and the Dies Irae, which is partially due to a similar rhythm (just in the beginning, then the Dies Irae melody goes on quite differently), and partially due to the modal melody (in both cases, in D minor). However, it's definitely not a "quote", and it's the kind of similarity that can happen by chance, or by a kind of subconscious choice by the composer. If Shore said that it was not done intentionally, I surely believe him (not that there would be anything wrong otherwise). Another interesting example that might recall of the Dies Irae, because of the rhythm and, again, a modal melody in D minor, is from Mike Oldfield's instrumental piece "Tubular Bells", at 6:56 in this video:
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My answers to both questions can be logically deduced from my post.
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The evidence to that, or to the contrary, will be found in the movie, just wait a couple of months! There is absolutely no logical way to know it beforehand, because none of us witnessed the meetings between the creators of the movies. You know, I read your "theory" because I find parts of this thread quite funny, and I would even agree that some of the development lines that you suggest would not be out of place, and I might even like them, if they are appropriately realized. Does your theory constitute a plausible conclusion of the story? It is possible, why not, but this is a fantasy tale, and basically anything else can be done and justified within the context of the story. If magic (= Force) is possible, then anything can happen, there is no "logic" that you can decipher with absolute certainty: what you might find to be logical might be changed at will (therefore, it is not "logic"). For the same reason, the authors can literally do whatever they want and find a way to make it plausible (...or not) within the context of the story. If you expect them to do exactly what you think (or what anyone else thinks) because "logic dictates it", well, you'd better prepare yourself to be disappointed.
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Logic is an interesting topic. I suggest you to have a look at this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies Particularly interesting are the items under "Relevance fallacies", such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity
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If your real message is your signature, that was clever!
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Score reacted to a post in a topic: Minority Report - 2CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records now available
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During a concert in 2016, while introducing Rey's theme, JW said something along these lines (sorry if it is not the exact quote): "I am wondering, like you all, who Rey's parents are... I think she must be Luke's daughter! But I don't really know, my guess is as good as yours". Ah, that adorable old man and his cunning plans to deceive us!!